Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: maandy on August 22, 2011, 11:15:12 AM
Post by: maandy on August 22, 2011, 11:15:12 AM
Anyway I was at work for 1 week at Sweden and thought if I was already there I´ll go to USA junkyard what is one of the biggest USA junkyards in europe. So some pics what I saw and I got some parts too. Nice Dash plastic cover wooden, TC style door speaker covers, rear ashtray, front grill, door lock buttons and seat side covers with recline buttons all parts where blue color so I just need to repaint them to match mine.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: The Shredder on August 22, 2011, 11:49:59 AM
Post by: The Shredder on August 22, 2011, 11:49:59 AM
Cool. It's amazing to see a 87-88 tbird in Sweden... even if in the Junkyard!
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Post by: vinnietbird on August 22, 2011, 01:29:41 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on August 22, 2011, 01:29:41 PM
A stripped Thunderbird in a Swedish salvage yard......are parts for those even in demand over there? How many Birds can there be in Sweden?
What's that red thing sticking out of the fender in the top picture?
What's that red thing sticking out of the fender in the top picture?
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: 302Bird87 on August 22, 2011, 01:46:38 PM
Post by: 302Bird87 on August 22, 2011, 01:46:38 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;365811
What's that red thing sticking out of the fender in the top picture?
Thats the Turn Signal light. I have the same on my norwegian tbird. In europe this is standard, my car got them because its an export model. And they always fint some stupid looking lights to put on. Like on my brothers 94 Ford Probe. They even took the time to cut out the red turn signals in the back and replaced them with orange lights..... But i have red lights on it now:)
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunder Chicken on August 22, 2011, 05:51:14 PM
Post by: Thunder Chicken on August 22, 2011, 05:51:14 PM
Doesn't look rusty, do they salt the roads in Sweden?
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: EFFalcon on August 22, 2011, 06:47:22 PM
Post by: EFFalcon on August 22, 2011, 06:47:22 PM
If i ever came across something like that locally.... man there would be nothing left.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: mcb82gt on August 22, 2011, 07:39:18 PM
Post by: mcb82gt on August 22, 2011, 07:39:18 PM
Two thoughts come to my mind
- I should be more thankful for the availability of these cars over here, even though they are sorta "rare".
- If I ever had that red thing stuck on the side of my car like that, I would be constantly angry or feel humiliated and hide in a corner in the dark.
- I should be more thankful for the availability of these cars over here, even though they are sorta "rare".
- If I ever had that red thing stuck on the side of my car like that, I would be constantly angry or feel humiliated and hide in a corner in the dark.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: maandy on August 23, 2011, 02:25:45 AM
Post by: maandy on August 23, 2011, 02:25:45 AM
To vintnietbird: I don´t know about demand in sweden at all but I think there is not much of 87-88 tbirds in sweden. That red ugly thing is turn signal light uuh.. I´m glad mine doesn´t have that thing over there.
To Thunder Chicken: I´m not sure but I think they don´t salt roads.
Actually there was one or two users from sweden too maybe they can tell something. I took the parts what first cross my mind and went too see how much they want for it and deem thay know how to ask! example: front grille 50 EUR= 71 USD :D you can get new one from US for that.
To Thunder Chicken: I´m not sure but I think they don´t salt roads.
Actually there was one or two users from sweden too maybe they can tell something. I took the parts what first cross my mind and went too see how much they want for it and deem thay know how to ask! example: front grille 50 EUR= 71 USD :D you can get new one from US for that.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 01, 2012, 01:20:14 PM
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 01, 2012, 01:20:14 PM
I have to bump this.
I actually found another 87-88 T-bird in another junkyard in Sweden. In good condition too! Only a little bit crashed in the front end. No idea what it's doing in a junkyard.
Me and my father took everything worth taking such as alot of the interior as the dash etc, fuel pump etc.
There are absolutley no demand of these cars in Sweden what so ever. But that doesn't mean that there's absolutley noone in Sweden who likes these ;) There are only a handful of these cars in Sweden and many of them rusted away due to salt. But there's alot of good ones too.
Fords that's not Mustang is hard to come by in Sweden compared to Chevrolets. Everyone wants those.
But hey, good looking cars! Even more fun when they're rare.
Maandy: Northern Sweden does not salt the roads. But in middle/southern Sweden there's alot of salt.
I actually found another 87-88 T-bird in another junkyard in Sweden. In good condition too! Only a little bit crashed in the front end. No idea what it's doing in a junkyard.
Me and my father took everything worth taking such as alot of the interior as the dash etc, fuel pump etc.
There are absolutley no demand of these cars in Sweden what so ever. But that doesn't mean that there's absolutley noone in Sweden who likes these ;) There are only a handful of these cars in Sweden and many of them rusted away due to salt. But there's alot of good ones too.
Fords that's not Mustang is hard to come by in Sweden compared to Chevrolets. Everyone wants those.
But hey, good looking cars! Even more fun when they're rare.
Maandy: Northern Sweden does not salt the roads. But in middle/southern Sweden there's alot of salt.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: maandy on January 02, 2012, 06:27:41 AM
Post by: maandy on January 02, 2012, 06:27:41 AM
That´s good if you got a lot of parts worth taking.
So it´s better to live in nothern Sweden or just just drive at the summer.
So it´s better to live in nothern Sweden or just just drive at the summer.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 04, 2012, 05:31:46 PM
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 04, 2012, 05:31:46 PM
Actually found some good useful parts today we slaughtered the other T-bird of :)
I have a full dashboard with loads of stuff. Even an equalizer which I'm guessing was an original option. Just tell me if you need anything mate. Took pretty much everything I could.
Depends on what. You can drive in the salt too but you need to really rustproof your car. I on the other hand bought a winterbeater instead because I will never let my T-bird taste the salt. A Lincoln Mark Viii will have to do it instead ;)
But driving in the winter with an enthusiast car isn't the more fun really. Better to buy an old Volvo or something. :)
I have a full dashboard with loads of stuff. Even an equalizer which I'm guessing was an original option. Just tell me if you need anything mate. Took pretty much everything I could.
Depends on what. You can drive in the salt too but you need to really rustproof your car. I on the other hand bought a winterbeater instead because I will never let my T-bird taste the salt. A Lincoln Mark Viii will have to do it instead ;)
But driving in the winter with an enthusiast car isn't the more fun really. Better to buy an old Volvo or something. :)
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Shadow on January 04, 2012, 10:53:16 PM
Post by: Shadow on January 04, 2012, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: Thunderbird88;376997
Better to buy an old Volvo or something. :)
i'd rather be shot in the face, than drive a volvo LOL
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 05, 2012, 06:22:50 AM
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 05, 2012, 06:22:50 AM
Quote from: Shadow;377029
i'd rather be shot in the face, than drive a volvo LOL
Well Volvo is okay (when comparing to Saab)... Apart from it's a farmers car for stupids... But I'd never drive a Saab. Had a Saab over last winter and that is enough. Never again. But I had to, the s was free :( Cant belive someone actually bought it. And paid for it too!
But yeah, I agree with you! :D
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Chuck W on January 05, 2012, 09:19:55 AM
Post by: Chuck W on January 05, 2012, 09:19:55 AM
Quote from: Shadow;377029
i'd rather be shot in the face, than drive a volvo LOL
Volvos are awesome, especially the 240's. A much better base chassis than the Foxes, IMO. Your loss.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Shadow on January 05, 2012, 09:55:53 AM
Post by: Shadow on January 05, 2012, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: Thunderbird88;377035
Well Volvo is okay (when comparing to Saab)... Apart from it's a farmers car for stupids... But I'd never drive a Saab. Had a Saab over last winter and that is enough. Never again. But I had to, the s was free :( Cant belive someone actually bought it. And paid for it too!
But yeah, I agree with you! :D
you won't catch me in a saab either.. lol
Quote from: Chuck W;377038
Volvos are awesome, especially the 240's. A much better base chassis than the Foxes, IMO. Your loss.
to each his own, chuck.. i think they're uglier than saturns.. and saturns are pretty fugly!
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Chuck W on January 05, 2012, 10:01:31 AM
Post by: Chuck W on January 05, 2012, 10:01:31 AM
Quote from: Shadow;377045
to each his own, chuck.. i think they're uglier than saturns.. and saturns are pretty fugly!
I'd drive a Saturn before I'd drive an S10 or a Cutlass, and I'll never drive a Saturn, so...I guess it's even. My 240's get as many comments as my Tbird does, even the beater wagon.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: shame302 on January 05, 2012, 02:58:10 PM
Post by: shame302 on January 05, 2012, 02:58:10 PM
Quote from: Chuck W;377038
Volvos are awesome, especially the 240's. A much better base chassis than the Foxes, IMO. Your loss.
WORD :cool:
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Shadow on January 05, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Post by: Shadow on January 05, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck W;377046
I'd drive a Saturn before I'd drive an S10 or a Cutlass, and I'll never drive a Saturn, so...I guess it's even. My 240's get as many comments as my Tbird does, even the beater wagon.
like i said, to each his own.. volvos = :barf: in my book
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Beau on January 06, 2012, 02:29:32 AM
Post by: Beau on January 06, 2012, 02:29:32 AM
Quote from: Shadow;377029
i'd rather be shot in the face, than drive a volvo LOL
Quote from: Shadow;377066
like i said, to each his own.. volvos = :barf: in my book
Another derailed thread. :barf: in my book.
Don't ever mention saturn here again, also. Or the car gods will be most displeased.
Looking at your sig...shouldn't you be cutting up another S10?.....
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 06, 2012, 04:39:55 AM
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 06, 2012, 04:39:55 AM
The thread derailed a while ago so I must ask, what do you pay for a decent 240 in the US? I paid a little bit over $$2000 for my 88 T-bird in Sweden. In condition it was way below decent. Swedish salty roads had the car for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Just have to say it's in good hands now ;) Been fully restored over a period of four years and it's almost done ;)
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Haystack on January 06, 2012, 04:42:18 AM
Post by: Haystack on January 06, 2012, 04:42:18 AM
Nah, just nut swinging about his 22r with 300k on its 4th rebuild. Toyota guys and chevy's seem to go together, almost like they build cars for each other...
I actually almost bough a turbo volvo wagon from a kid before I got my first cougar. Car was awesome. Good gas mileage, not super fast, but fast enough for a high school kid, and the other guy always got pulled over while we were racing.
I actually almost bough a turbo volvo wagon from a kid before I got my first cougar. Car was awesome. Good gas mileage, not super fast, but fast enough for a high school kid, and the other guy always got pulled over while we were racing.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Shadow on January 06, 2012, 07:16:37 AM
Post by: Shadow on January 06, 2012, 07:16:37 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;377104
Looking at your sig...shouldn't you be cutting up another S10?.....
actually, i am for a minitub.. smartass lmao :flip:
Quote from: Haystack;377113
Nah, just nut swinging about his 22r with 300k on its 4th rebuild.
actually, 98k on the original motor.. ;)
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Shadow on January 06, 2012, 07:23:41 AM
Post by: Shadow on January 06, 2012, 07:23:41 AM
Quote from: Thunderbird88;377112
I paid a little bit over $$2000 for my 88 T-bird in Sweden. In condition it was way below decent. Swedish salty roads had the car for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
it's somewhat nice to know us here on the east coast/northern part of the US aren't the only 1's dealing with rust.. man, you would be sick to your stomach if you saw what little rust US west coast cars get to be classified as 'junkyard material' for a lot of car guys out there.. they'd be singing a different tune if they saw what we're left to salvage on this end of the country, on a daily basis
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Chuck W on January 06, 2012, 07:33:38 AM
Post by: Chuck W on January 06, 2012, 07:33:38 AM
Quote from: Thunderbird88;377112
The thread derailed a while ago so I must ask, what do you pay for a decent 240 in the US? I paid a little bit over $$2000 for my 88 T-bird in Sweden. In condition it was way below decent. Swedish salty roads had the car for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Just have to say it's in good hands now ;) Been fully restored over a period of four years and it's almost done ;)
Well, 240's are more common here than TBirds are in Sweden, so there is that factor, but a decent clean stock-ish 240 can go for fair money. I've seen them from $2,000-$4,000. Ratty ones go for less, pretty much in line with the TBirds/Cougars do here. These are prices I see for "hobbyist" cars, and not "time capsules".
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Shadow on January 06, 2012, 07:46:18 AM
Post by: Shadow on January 06, 2012, 07:46:18 AM
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=volvo+240&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=
just to give you an idea of what some are going for, over here in the US.. mind you, some people on craigslist are a bit crazy on asking price
just to give you an idea of what some are going for, over here in the US.. mind you, some people on craigslist are a bit crazy on asking price
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Chuck W on January 06, 2012, 08:53:14 AM
Post by: Chuck W on January 06, 2012, 08:53:14 AM
Quote from: Thunderbird88;377112
The thread derailed a while ago so I must ask, what do you pay for a decent 240 in the US? I paid a little bit over $$2000 for my 88 T-bird in Sweden. In condition it was way below decent. Swedish salty roads had the car for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Just have to say it's in good hands now ;) Been fully restored over a period of four years and it's almost done ;)
As an even further derailment, seeing as you're in Sweden, you might have easier access to a grill I'm looking for for my 244TIC. Shipping might be a bitch, but hrmmm..... *ponders*
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 06, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 06, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
Quote from: Shadow;377123
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=volvo+240&srchType=T&minAsk=&maxAsk=
just to give you an idea of what some are going for, over here in the US.. mind you, some people on craigslist are a bit crazy on asking price
So much money for so little car ... You don't get very much when buying a Volvo imo. Sure it's a reliable car but in the US it must be a useless car when there's not many spare parts to come by. In Sweden they're "great" just because there's so much spare parts available.
Quote from: Chuck W;377126
As an even further derailment, seeing as you're in Sweden, you might have easier access to a grill I'm looking for for my 244TIC. Shipping might be a bitch, but hrmmm..... *ponders*
http://www.blocket.se/vastmanland?q=Volvo+240+grill&cg=1040&w=3&st=s&c=0&ca=9&l=0&md=th
If you use google chrome just let it translate ;)
For example one guy was selling a 740 grill for 100:- (SEK) which is rougly 15 dollars ;) Just devide the price by 7 and you get roughly the price in US dollars.
I bet you I could get one for free lol.
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Post by: Chuck W on January 06, 2012, 12:41:13 PM
Post by: Chuck W on January 06, 2012, 12:41:13 PM
Quote from: Thunderbird88;377133
So much money for so little car ... You don't get very much when buying a Volvo imo. Sure it's a reliable car but in the US it must be a useless car when there's not many spare parts to come by. In Sweden they're "great" just because there's so much spare parts available.
http://www.blocket.se/vastmanland?q=Volvo+240+grill&cg=1040&w=3&st=s&c=0&ca=9&l=0&md=th
If you use google chrome just let it translate ;)
For example one guy was selling a 740 grill for 100:- (SEK) which is rougly 15 dollars ;) Just devide the price by 7 and you get roughly the price in US dollars.
I bet you I could get one for free lol.
Actually, the Volvo groups here are not too bad, and most stuff isn't *too* difficult to come by. The community for the Fox TBirds/Cougars here pales in comparison. Then again, the 240s were avail from '75-93 here, while the Fox Tbirds/Cougars only from 83-88 (80-82 as well if you count the Box ones). Companies also make parts for the 240s still, instead of folks having to adapt a bunch of Mustang stuff or dig for good used parts.
This is the grille I'm looking for.
(http://www1.garaget.org/archive/124/123727/161668/large_161668-2469681.jpg)
I have the quads with the "coffin" hood, but have a flat hood I want to use.
If you come across one, and the shipping won't be a killer, perhaps we can work something out. ;)
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Romeo2k on January 06, 2012, 05:42:37 PM
Post by: Romeo2k on January 06, 2012, 05:42:37 PM
I'll keep an eye for that grill when I hit the yard this Summer, And if my dad doesnt try to steal it...
My dad has an '83 240DL Wagon N/A~Handling on that thing is fantastic, And the transmission is freaking indestructible...
My dad has an '83 240DL Wagon N/A~Handling on that thing is fantastic, And the transmission is freaking indestructible...
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Chuck W on January 06, 2012, 07:26:20 PM
Post by: Chuck W on January 06, 2012, 07:26:20 PM
Quote from: Romeo2k;377140
I'll keep an eye for that grill when I hit the yard this Summer, And if my dad doesnt try to steal it...
My dad has an '83 240DL Wagon N/A~Handling on that thing is fantastic, And the transmission is freaking indestructible...
Well, that's a hard grille to find stateside. It was only offered in '83 on some of the turbo cars.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 06, 2012, 07:58:25 PM
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 06, 2012, 07:58:25 PM
In my opinion you should buy the Swedish style headlamps for you Volvo.
Everyone in Sweden wants the US style ones so you should get the Swedish ones for yours ;)
Everyone in Sweden wants the US style ones so you should get the Swedish ones for yours ;)
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Post by: Chuck W on January 06, 2012, 10:40:22 PM
Post by: Chuck W on January 06, 2012, 10:40:22 PM
Quote from: Thunderbird88;377155
In my opinion you should buy the Swedish style headlamps for you Volvo.
Everyone in Sweden wants the US style ones so you should get the Swedish ones for yours ;)
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the big E-codes. The smaller ones aren't too bad, but I still like the quads better (see my sig ;) ) My car is an '85, so the quads are stock.
Small E-codes
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c375/noob-fraktion/d2dc75dc.jpg)
Large E-codes (Yes, that's a 5.0 swap)
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2230/imgp5372g.jpg)
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Haystack on January 07, 2012, 02:14:56 AM
Post by: Haystack on January 07, 2012, 02:14:56 AM
Quote from: Shadow;377119
actually, 98k on the original motor.. ;)
Give it another 10k and you will be overdue for a rebuild. Everyone I know that talks about having a toyota with 300k and an origonal motor, forgets to mention the three or four times it has been rebuilt. As a matter of fact, my one buddy is on his 3rd rebuilt block in about 30k. First one couldn't be rebuilt due to cracks in the block, second one I don't remember, and the third one had to go back for machine work after a blown head gasket from a cracked head.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Beau on January 07, 2012, 03:42:04 AM
Post by: Beau on January 07, 2012, 03:42:04 AM
Chuck, those are some big headlights....do they illuminate (wow, spelled that correctly, first try, drunk off my ass) any better than the size typical here?
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 07, 2012, 07:44:34 AM
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 07, 2012, 07:44:34 AM
Quote from: Chuck W;377162
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the big E-codes. The smaller ones aren't too bad, but I still like the quads better (see my sig ;) ) My car is an '85, so the quads are stock.
Small E-codes
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c375/noob-fraktion/d2dc75dc.jpg)
Large E-codes (Yes, that's a 5.0 swap)
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2230/imgp5372g.jpg)
I see :)
If you want to see lots of Swedish Volvo 240's check this site.
Again it's in Swedish and most likely looks like chinese to you guys but atleast check the photos ;)
Just a hint, the orange 240 on top is a fully original never restored 240 that's been driven a total of around 15k miles. He's also got a P1800 that's gone 5000 miles in total (bought from the US).
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Chuck W on January 07, 2012, 09:07:28 AM
Post by: Chuck W on January 07, 2012, 09:07:28 AM
Quote from: Thunderbird88;377173
I see :)
If you want to see lots of Swedish Volvo 240's check this site.
Again it's in Swedish and most likely looks like chinese to you guys but atleast check the photos ;)
Just a hint, the orange 240 on top is a fully original never restored 240 that's been driven a total of around 15k miles. He's also got a P1800 that's gone 5000 miles in total (bought from the US).
I think you forgot a link. ;)
Anyway, if you think about it, and happen to come across one of those grilles, or even a set-up like the small e-codes, let me know.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 07, 2012, 09:30:46 AM
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 07, 2012, 09:30:46 AM
Quote from: Chuck W;377176
I think you forgot a link. ;)
Anyway, if you think about it, and happen to come across one of those grilles, or even a set-up like the small e-codes, let me know.
I definetly did :D
Here you go http://www.garaget.org/search.php?q=Volvo%20240&type=3&a=&sort=3&y1=&y2=&p=1
I can come by one in the matter of seconds to be honest mate. 5 minutes search on the internet will guarantee a find. ;)
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Post by: Chuck W on January 07, 2012, 11:59:44 AM
Post by: Chuck W on January 07, 2012, 11:59:44 AM
Quote from: Thunderbird88;377178
I can come by one in the matter of seconds to be honest mate. 5 minutes search on the internet will guarantee a find. ;)
Well, take 5 or 10 minutes and see what you come up with. ;)
My email is cwarren@indy.net , which is probably a better place to continue this convo (or via PM). Thanks :)
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Post by: Shadow on January 07, 2012, 04:29:53 PM
Post by: Shadow on January 07, 2012, 04:29:53 PM
Quote from: Haystack;377167
Give it another 10k and you will be overdue for a rebuild. Everyone I know that talks about having a toyota with 300k and an origonal motor, forgets to mention the three or four times it has been rebuilt. As a matter of fact, my one buddy is on his 3rd rebuilt block in about 30k. First one couldn't be rebuilt due to cracks in the block, second one I don't remember, and the third one had to go back for machine work after a blown head gasket from a cracked head.
we shall see.. my dad's 86 is reaching 180k on the original, untouched motor (minus the intake swap to run a 4 barrel).. well.. we'll see if he even replaces the pos auto trans first lol.. but all in all, my 22R runs pretty good.. i switched it to full synthetic when i got it and went with 10w40 instead of the 'factory recommended' 10w30.. i'd like to run the motor as long as i can, untouched, to see how many miles i can get out of it, but it's not in the cards for the poor truck.. she's getting cut up next winter, i never intended on keeping it as a daily driver, so i need to finish 1 of my big trucks first..
but chuck is right, parts for the volvos are easy to come by in the US.. i see them in numerous junkyards and most 'collision supply' wholesalers sell replacement body parts for them
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Post by: Haystack on January 07, 2012, 09:55:20 PM
Post by: Haystack on January 07, 2012, 09:55:20 PM
I would be pulling your dads motor apart asap. The timing chain guides, tensioner, timing chain and oil pump should be replaced every 100k, minimum. The toming chain stretches, eats all the meterial off the guides until the tension can't take all of the slack, then either the timin gear eats itself, or the chain hitsthe timing chain cover until it puts e ough metal in the oil pump to seize it, or eats through to coolant. Then your engine overheadts and both your block and head need rebuilt or replaced due to warpage or cracks.
If your going to beat on either engine at all, pulloff the timing chain cover every 25-50k minimum and check how the timing chain looks. Every one on the road has either been babied, not driven enough, had the frame rot away, or been apart with the timing bits replaced.
If your going to beat on either engine at all, pulloff the timing chain cover every 25-50k minimum and check how the timing chain looks. Every one on the road has either been babied, not driven enough, had the frame rot away, or been apart with the timing bits replaced.
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Post by: Shadow on January 07, 2012, 10:18:57 PM
Post by: Shadow on January 07, 2012, 10:18:57 PM
i meant untouched as in unmodified/un-rebuilt.. his gets regular tuneups, oil changes, etc etc every 4k, when it's on the road.. it's had the guides, chain, oil pump and water pump changed twice since he's owned it, since around 67k.. he's also done a few other maintenance/upkeep things as well, but nothing internally..
the first thing i did to mine when i brought it 'home' from the junkyard was pull the valve cover and chain cover.. the chain wasn't stretched very much, but the guides were pretty chewed up and the motor was filled with sludge.. so i replaced them, replaced the oil pump and water pump (since i already had it apart, why not?) and flushed the motor out.. it really likes the 10w40 synthetic and (ready to laugh?) motorcraft filter.. the oil pressure only drops 3psi from cold to fully warm, compared to the 7-9psi they usually drop with regular oil and 'recommended' filter.. i can't complain for a truck that i paid $500 for, drove to the shop and so far, have only spent $600, including new sheet metal for the bed
the first thing i did to mine when i brought it 'home' from the junkyard was pull the valve cover and chain cover.. the chain wasn't stretched very much, but the guides were pretty chewed up and the motor was filled with sludge.. so i replaced them, replaced the oil pump and water pump (since i already had it apart, why not?) and flushed the motor out.. it really likes the 10w40 synthetic and (ready to laugh?) motorcraft filter.. the oil pressure only drops 3psi from cold to fully warm, compared to the 7-9psi they usually drop with regular oil and 'recommended' filter.. i can't complain for a truck that i paid $500 for, drove to the shop and so far, have only spent $600, including new sheet metal for the bed
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Haystack on January 08, 2012, 01:25:55 AM
Post by: Haystack on January 08, 2012, 01:25:55 AM
Yeah, give it time. I don't know anyone that had the stock block last, and lots of guys with lower mileage motors. Sad thing is, the 22r and re are the better of their blocks.
I would still swap out your oil pump, if you plan on keeping either one on the road.
I would still swap out your oil pump, if you plan on keeping either one on the road.
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Shadow on January 08, 2012, 02:02:29 AM
Post by: Shadow on January 08, 2012, 02:02:29 AM
my dad's is off the road, because it keeps eating the tailshaft seal (tailshaft bearing is more than likely shot).. he wants to give it a once-over before it goes back on the road, but he's too busy playing with his stupid honda shadow.. mine is off the road because i toasted the clutch.. i've been waiting for about 2 months for a new flywheel, everything else is sitting on the passenger seat.. i'm rebuilding the motor from top to bottom, left to right, while the truck is down next winter getting doored.. i thought about doing a motor swap, but everything i think of just makes me think 'nah, been done before' or 'nah. that'd suck'.. i gave thought to putting my 2.3T in it, but that fell into the 'nah, that'd suck' category
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Haystack on January 08, 2012, 02:44:52 AM
Post by: Haystack on January 08, 2012, 02:44:52 AM
Just about the only thing done right on those things was the 5 million pound tranny and transfer case, though, if you have uupgraded your tires, you top speed of about 55mph cannot be reached in 5th gear, and you'll get better mileage in 4th, at about 12 or 13 highway.
5.0 swap is amazingly simple, as is a buick 3.8 rwd, toyota supra motor, n/a geo metro engine, it would be hard to find a motor less suited to a truck, and you can get an adaptar plate for virtally any engine made.
Just curious, how did you burn up the clutch?
5.0 swap is amazingly simple, as is a buick 3.8 rwd, toyota supra motor, n/a geo metro engine, it would be hard to find a motor less suited to a truck, and you can get an adaptar plate for virtally any engine made.
Just curious, how did you burn up the clutch?
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Shadow on January 08, 2012, 03:03:11 AM
Post by: Shadow on January 08, 2012, 03:03:11 AM
old age, i'm sure.. not to mention, the truck sat for 3-4 years before it got to the junkyard.. so add the rust and 98k miles.. end result - burnt clutch, screwed flywheel
5.0's are common in yotas, it's a bit boring now.. and mine's 2wd, not 4.. if it was 4wd, i'm sure the frame would have looked like this 1, which is in the same junkyard:
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/393801_10151136053725335_585700334_22707784_1914805418_n.jpg)
5.0's are common in yotas, it's a bit boring now.. and mine's 2wd, not 4.. if it was 4wd, i'm sure the frame would have looked like this 1, which is in the same junkyard:
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/393801_10151136053725335_585700334_22707784_1914805418_n.jpg)
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 08, 2012, 06:58:57 AM
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 08, 2012, 06:58:57 AM
Quote from: Shadow;377219
old age, i'm sure.. not to mention, the truck sat for 3-4 years before it got to the junkyard.. so add the rust and 98k miles.. end result - burnt clutch, screwed flywheel
5.0's are common in yotas, it's a bit boring now.. and mine's 2wd, not 4.. if it was 4wd, i'm sure the frame would have looked like this 1, which is in the same junkyard:
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/393801_10151136053725335_585700334_22707784_1914805418_n.jpg)
I don't see anything wrong with that at all! :D
Rust is the worst thing ever. I'd rather have a blown engine than a tiny bit of rust ...
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Shadow on January 08, 2012, 09:47:37 AM
Post by: Shadow on January 08, 2012, 09:47:37 AM
same here.. but that's toyota's fault.. they dipped the 4x4 frames in salt water to cool them after welding
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 08, 2012, 10:55:45 AM
Post by: Thunderbird88 on January 08, 2012, 10:55:45 AM
Wow ... really? That's really not smart ...
Title: Junkyard visit in Sweden, OSBY
Post by: Shadow on January 08, 2012, 10:58:28 AM
Post by: Shadow on January 08, 2012, 10:58:28 AM
yep.. it's just proof that puppiesanese car makers don't care what happens to their vehicles after their warranty term is up.. they did it all the way up to the T-100 in the 90's