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Title: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Thunder Chicken on May 23, 2005, 03:28:20 PM
..I mean, how else could you explain all the money I've come into this past week? So far I've:
 
My God, I can't wait 'til all this money starts rolling in! I'm gonna have a solid gold Thunderbird made! And I'm gonna buy a tropical island, build a race track, and helicopter all of you and your cars down for Cat Jam '06! Can't you just feel the excitement?
 
And it gets better: I've also been offered countless discounted prescription drugs, software at a fraction of the retail price, and the "inside track" on wholesale consumer electronics. Not only am I gonna be really rich, but I'm not even gonna have to spend that money!!!!!
 
 
 
So, am I the only one who has noticed a sharp increase in this sort of bullshiznit lately? Methinks my spam filter needs a tuneup...:toilet:
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: V8Demon on May 23, 2005, 03:38:45 PM
Yeah, the Spam's been gettin through on my computer too.  It's getting to be a pain deleting files while in safe mode.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: EricCoolCats on May 23, 2005, 04:32:21 PM
It is getting much worse...we're trying to deal with it at work. Most of them are a result of new virii swirling around. If you get any e-mail in German, and you're pretty sure you don't know anyone that speaks German, that's the end product of a virus.

I've been getting some prescription spam for quite a few years. Best one is for pen 15 enlargement. I get a kick out of those...I mean, come on, I've been pulling on the  thing for over 20 years now. If it ain't bigger by now, no pill's gonna do it. ;)
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Bird351 on May 23, 2005, 04:34:53 PM
What? You mean that doesn't work? it!

Err, forget I said anything. :p

(note that the first thing I saw when I posted that was the little guy in my sig saying "He'll be out in a minute.")
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: gunkel04 on May 23, 2005, 05:18:09 PM
I only have 3 words for everyone who is getting tired of virus's, updating virus software, safemode, trojans, etc. Buy a mac....
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Bird351 on May 23, 2005, 05:39:04 PM
No viruses here, I delete all those Emails without reading them.. and it's getting less and less likely that I will ever buy a Mac.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: amooset on May 23, 2005, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: EricCoolCats
I mean, come on, I've been pulling on the  thing for over 20 years now. If it ain't bigger by now, no pill's gonna do it. ;)



Lol... signature worthy quote there  :rollin:
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Thunder Chicken on May 23, 2005, 07:56:28 PM
Not sure what having a Mac has to do with receiving spam. These emails were spams, not viruses - I don't even see the virus-containing emails because my server deletes them automatically and Norton Antivirus nails anything that might sneak through that first line of defence. And in the very rare case that Norton doesn't pick them off my own brain can handle the rest.
 
I've been using a PC/DOS/Windows since the late 80's and have experienced one virus in the entire decade and a half on a computer that I set up and use, and I found and deleted that one with no major effects (the computer was a 486, the first I had ever connected to the internet). Granted, my brand new Dell had seven viruses on it right out of the box last December, but that was before I had a chance to "bulletproof" it.  Once I formatted it and set it up properly it was, and still is, OK.
 
Getting a Mac may prevent a lot of this shiznit, but one thing goes a lot further: Get a brain. If you practice safe computing and protect yourself with updates, antivirus and safe software such as FireFox you will be OK in the world of viruses, trojans, etc.
 
Telling somebody to "Get a Mac" to avoid virus trouble is like telling somebody to buy a Citroen 2CV to avoid speeding tickets. Unless you learn the rules of the road (or internet) you'll always be vulnerable, no matter what you're driving. If, by some divine intervention, Mac suddenly grabbed 98% of the computer market the viruses would be even WORSE, because typical Mac people, complacent in their perceived security, don't know how to deal with or prevent them. The only reason that viruses aren't as common on Macs now is because the virus writers don't bother with them. Virus writers know they'll cause the most damage to PC/Windows users not because Windows is vulnerable but because so many people use it.
 
Microsoft could patch Windows to be 100% secure (XP with all the updates is pretty ed close), but until they can patch the idiot in the computer chair in front of the screen viruses and spyware will always exist. To draw a mythical comparison: Legend has it that vampires cannot enter your house unless invited, just like scripts cannot run on your computer unless downloaded and opened. Yet, inexplicably, vampires still get into houses because people are stupid enough to let them in, and spyware/viruses still get into computers because people are stupid enough to download and run them. And just like vampires, viruses and spyware often trick their victims into welcoming them. This is not the fault of Microsoft, nor is it the fault of AMD or Intel. It is the fault of the average computer user, who would be just as stupid whether they were sitting behind a Mac or a real computer :evilgrin: .
 
Back on topic - maybe if I keep getting all this money I can buy Microsoft and beat some sense into the programmers :D
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Thunder Chicken on May 23, 2005, 08:08:13 PM
Whup - just as I typed that I got another one. The widow of the former Minister of Finance of the Philipines has just offered me a portion of her $12.3 million inheritance if I let her send her safety deposit box to me. WOOHOO! Drinks are one me!!!
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Bird351 on May 23, 2005, 08:09:31 PM
Well I guess this is an example of the "RDF"..

To a Mac user, they're whipped into a frenzy believing they're SO safe from viruses and what not because they have such awesome hardware and software, when in reality it's mainly because it's such a niche machine that it gets far less attention from virus coders than the "Wintel" PC does. Turning a negative into a positive there, but it's still kinda silly to me. That's like bragging that you don't get any speeding tickets because you ride a moped.

I remember seeing something about a (more or less) proof-of-concept virus being written for Mac, and it turning all the Mac-ites pale and shaky for awhile, until they swept the memory of it under the rug and went back to drinking the Jobs Kool-Aid. I'd love to see a few more come out for it, just to shut the fanatics up a little. (but of course, then they'd still say something like "well, we get LESS viruses, so Buy A Mac [tm]")
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on May 23, 2005, 08:31:13 PM
MAC??? Is that something like a 8-Track?? :D
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Bird351 on May 23, 2005, 08:34:14 PM
Yeah, exactly. :p
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: EricCoolCats on May 23, 2005, 09:19:54 PM
Well, if there weren't holes big enough in Windoze to walk through in the first place, y'all would be in the same position as us. ;) Truthfully, Macs can still spread a PC virus. We just don't usually know it, unless we have some type of anti-virus software. But most Mac users don't because, well, they really don't need it like PC users do. How a virus affects a PC in no way affects a Mac, period...they're two different OS's in that respect. An imbedded .exe file? Ha! We poop on you. If we get a Word or Excel virus/worm/what have you, then there is the possibility that we could be infected. Oh well...reload Office, restart, go back to work. What's propogating the current crops of virii are--you guessed it--Windoze servers. So Mac people do get the same spam that PC owners get.

There have been at least half a dozen proofs-of-concept Trojan horses for OS X since 2001. NONE have ever made it into the real world. Just last month, with the release of Tiger/10.4, users quickly discovered a flaw in one of the new touted features, reported it to Apple, and 10.4.1 was quickly released to fix it. Billy-Boy Gates would never move that fast to block a new PC virus, or even a potential security issue, now would he? There will be a day in the future where there is a serious, nasty Mac virus on the loose...the odds are simply against Mac users in that respect. Mark my words, though: there will be a fix within 48 hours, and life will go on. We work as a community to help our Mac bretheren out.

Ol' Billy Boy could do way more to help PC users out. Yet he chooses not to for whatever reasons. He washes his hands of everything, like the kindergarten teacher who watches 4th graders start a fire on the playground--"Oh well, not my class, nothing I can do about it". I will guaran--tee you that most Mac people are more honest than a lot of PC users. Due to sheer numbers? Undoubtedly. But we don't have to worry about some dork in their mom's basp00get cooking up a nasty Trojan horse for OS X. PC users sure as hell do, every time they use a PC. Call us smug, call us arrogant, call us Disciples of Jobs, whatever...we simply don't need to worry about those sort of things right now. Your tireless work to keep your PC clean and virus-free is simply something we don't have to do. And we don't ever have to give one frickin' red cent to Billy Boy. Life is good.

And you're right Carm...there will always be a PEBCAK problem, no matter what OS people use (PEBCAK: Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard). ;) The writers of Trojan horses and spyware prey exclusively on those who are not as cautious as they should be. However, I have seen no real-world help from M$ in that department. They could be doing a much better job. It's an immense problem, sure, but I recall hearing somewhere that Billy Boy has some money stashed away. So that shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: MDJ1281 on May 24, 2005, 12:55:02 AM
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Best one is for pen 15 enlargement. I get a kick out of those...I mean, come on, I've been pulling on the  thing for over 20 years now. If it ain't bigger by now, no pill's gonna do it.


That caused a laugh that made my eyes water... thanks Eric, I love those.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Tbird232ci on May 24, 2005, 01:08:56 AM
Quote from: EricCoolCats
y'all would be in the same position as us.

whats that? on all fours?

basically, the way i see it, is there is no free lunch

you buy a PC, you can buy them dirt cheap, have a fast and capable machine, and have money for upgrades, software, etc, but have the virus/trojan/spyware issues

you buy a Mac, pay a hefty amount, need more expensive software that works with Mac, and have compatability issues with some software out there, but have *less* virus/trojan/spyware issues

while im not very educated on computers, i do know that they are fast porn box's.....i....i mean that....aw
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: tbirdscott on May 24, 2005, 02:38:40 AM
I love macs!(http://www.sonic.net/~rod/mactools/logomac.gif)
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Thunder Chicken on May 24, 2005, 08:57:29 AM
Mac Tools? Is that some kind of fan club or something? :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: baylensman on May 24, 2005, 09:14:55 AM
IE explorer dropped to under 90% of browser market and firefox jumper up to like 6% guess what. firefox has just annnounced updates to fix security leaks in their browser. If the Mac gots every got up to like 8 to 10% of market they would be attacked also. I like the moped buttstuffogy
LOL
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: jcassity on May 24, 2005, 09:25:19 AM
Quote from: tbirdscott
I love macs!(http://www.sonic.net/~rod/mactools/logomac.gif)


no,, thats what you get when you pull on it hard enough :rollin:

I think all that german spam started about a week and a half ago.  I was wondering if anyone else noticed this.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: V8Demon on May 24, 2005, 11:00:37 AM
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I've been getting some prescription spam for quite a few years. Best one is for pen 15 enlargement. I get a kick out of those...I mean, come on, I've been pulling on the  thing for over 20 years now. If it ain't bigger by now, no pill's gonna do it.

You guys ever see the ads for the creams?  If it works there how come your hands don't get huge too?

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while im not very educated on computers, i do know that they are fast porn box's.....i....i mean that....aw

It's OK We can get you help! :D
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: CougarSE on May 24, 2005, 11:25:08 AM
Quote from: baylensman
IE explorer dropped to under 90% of browser market and firefox jumper up to like 6% guess what. firefox has just annnounced updates to fix security leaks in their browser. If the Mac gots every got up to like 8 to 10% of market they would be attacked also. I like the moped buttstuffogy
LOL


The latest version of firefox anyone could consider there new browser.  Its nothing like opera were it doesn't work and nothing like netscape were it seems like your a sellout to a new internet fad company.  I use it and love it.

Oh and I use a pc but if I could afford to get something that would run os 10 I would have it.  C'mon have any of you even tried it.  Its really cool with its flashy moves and spinning boxes I mean thats why I should like it right?
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: jkirchman on May 24, 2005, 11:36:03 AM
Quote from: EricCoolCats
I will guaran--tee you that most Mac people are more honest than a lot of PC users.


That's comedy gold right there.  Funnier than the pen 15 pulling joke.

Seriously though I can usually tell right away whether the person I'm talking to uses a Mac or a PC.

Seriously.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: EricCoolCats on May 24, 2005, 11:43:26 AM
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Seriously though I can usually tell right away whether the person I'm talking to uses a Mac or a PC.

Seriously.


That is true...Mac users won't be the ones asking how to configure something.  :tg:
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Bird351 on May 24, 2005, 11:52:41 AM
Quote from: EricCoolCats
That is true...Mac users won't be the ones asking how to configure something.  :tg:


And they're the ones who think they have stuff that's twice as powerful as it actually is.. :p
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: jkirchman on May 24, 2005, 11:56:02 AM
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That is true...Mac users won't be the ones asking how to configure something.


(http://www.dnet.net/user/jkirchman/gifs/bullshiznit.gif)  Because it's all pre-configured for them so they don't have to do anything.

You show me a dishonest PC user and I'll show you a lazy Mac user. (http://www.dnet.net/user/jkirchman/gifs/biggrin.gif)

You're forgetting that I help people configure computers over the phone for a living.  About 5% of our call volume is Mac users.  About 5% of home computers are Macs.  It's not the computer, it's the person.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: EricCoolCats on May 24, 2005, 11:56:06 AM
Not twice as powerful...twice as expensive, definitely. ;)
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: V8Demon on May 24, 2005, 11:57:42 AM
See, no matter HOW much you pull on that thing it won't be more powerful!!
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: EricCoolCats on May 24, 2005, 12:00:39 PM
Lazy, Jim? I can't see that. Mac users simply don't have to screw around with their computers to get them to WORK the way they're supposed to. If that's laziness, so be it. Until everyone here has tried one, or used OS X, then I don't see a valid reason why people should throw stones.

Back to the virus/spam thing...has anyone gotten the spam written in Cyrillic yet? That's another fun one. At least spammers are broadening our language awareness. ;)
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: jkirchman on May 24, 2005, 12:08:11 PM
I have a Mac with OS X sitting on my desk right next to the Windows XP machine.  Macs are great machines and they work well.  But I don't see anything about it that makes it any better than a PC.  Windows has to be designed to run on literally hundreds of thousands of different combinations of hardware made by thousands of different companies over the course of several years and subsequent changes in technology.  Macs are all in-house.  The hardware and software are designed to work in concert with one another.  The result is a smoothly running efficient, expensive machine.  Nothing wrong if that's your cup of tea.

I prefer a less expensive machine I can customize until my heart's content and after I'm done building it I can go buy whatever software I want that will do whatever I want it to do. 

Now I'll go over there and pick up the stone I threw.  Hope it didn't hit your flat screen Mac display.  Because I don't have the $12,000 I would need to buy you a new one.  :p
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Bird351 on May 24, 2005, 12:08:47 PM
Because Mac-ites are usually fanatics who won't hesitate to throw stones at PCs every chance they get.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Chuck W on May 24, 2005, 12:08:50 PM
Quote from: EricCoolCats


Back to the virus/spam thing...has anyone gotten the spam written in Cyrillic yet? That's another fun one. At least spammers are broadening our language awareness. ;)

I get one or two a week... :disappoin A couple in puppiesanese and Arabic too even.....
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Bird351 on May 24, 2005, 12:12:24 PM
You guys actually read those Emails? Heh.. I just delete anything that has a name I don't recognize. Since I only use my Email addresses for contacting a couple friends on occasions they're not on ICQ/AIM, or for signing up for forums, (and a couple different newsletters that are clearly labelled on each Email) anything beyond that is spam and just gets deleted without reading.

EDIT: I don't even have preview enabled. That's another way the bad shiznit can get in.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: jkirchman on May 24, 2005, 12:19:54 PM
Here's the latest one I got today (if it works: )

Рекламно-производственное бюро "Дан-Пресс"
изготовит для Вас полиэтиленовые пакеты с Вашим логотипом.
 тел. 198 9695, 995 5435 

Красочность/тираж
 500
 1000
 2000
 3000
 5000
 
1+0
 0,25
 0,18
 0,17
 0,16
 0,15
 
2+0
 0,35
 0,27
 0,24
 0,22
 0,21
 
3+0
 0,45
 0,33
 0,32
 0,31
 0,31
 
4+0
 0,55
 0,46
 0,42
 0,37
 0,35
 

Стоимость приведена для стандартного пакета
размером 30х40 см и 40х50 см
белого цвета
плотностью 60 микрон.

На складе имеются  цветные  пакеты и пакеты высокой плотности.
Также предлагаем сувениры с Вашим логотипом по каталогу "Проект 111" - более 2000 наименований со склада.

Хорошие цены на нанесение.

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Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: EricCoolCats on May 24, 2005, 12:26:14 PM
I didn't buy the Apple flat screen Jim...it was too expensive. :) Well, you said it all in a nutshell. No arguments there. It is a more expensive machine but it works great. And let me tell you, the quality of components used are outstanding. If M$ made their own computer designed specifically for Windows, with their own specific hardware, it would probably be more expensive but I think the PC world would be much better off because of the integration. It's ironic that M$'s only true computer is a gaming machine (Xbox).

Quote from: Bird351
Because Mac-ites are usually fanatics who won't hesitate to throw stones at PCs every chance they get.


That's what happens when Tha Man keeps you down, G.

Now let me ask you: why do you think it is that Mac owners are so ed happy and talking about their computers all the time? Could it be that they actually have a better-built machine? Things that make you go hmmmmm.......

Time to start a new thread on this (yet again). I'm done here.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Bird351 on May 24, 2005, 12:35:39 PM
I might've thought it was a better-built machine back when I followed the PPC 601 and its successors.. but nowadays I hear regular rumblings about quality issues.

I think Mac-ites are happy over their Macs because they feel like they're bucking some kind of trend or something, and next year everyone will be using Macs and there will be world peace and free love and a liberal in the White House and all that . It's like this "next year Linux will rule the desktop" thing I've been hearing for what, 5 years now?

Macs are nice machines for what they are: Niche graphics-work machines. But hell, if the Amiga hadn't been run into the ground, the Mac-ites probably wouldn't even have that to hang their hats on.

I've known one Mac-ite so far who was *never* a raving fanatic when it came to PCs vs. Macs.. and it probably had something to do with the fact that he made a living designing hardware for PCs. He was even a pretty good sport about it when my P166MMX whipped his brand new G3 in POV-Ray rendering tests. I developed some bit of extra respect for Mac-ites while I was friends with him.. but all the subsequent fanaticism I've encountered is slowly eroding that respect. It's going to get to a point where I'm going to view Mac-ites the way I viewed Amiga-nuts back in the day. (and it wasn't a positive view)
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on May 24, 2005, 02:38:21 PM
I do mainly gaming on my computer and i am not willing to give up my PC, Im safe enough with blackice zone alarm norton antivirus and Mozilla, and if people are so afriad of getting zapped by an email virus get mozilla Thunderbird, Thier Outlook express.

To any one that still actually uses IE xxx what ever switch to firefox, 10 times better than IE. I usually do monthly spysweeps and come up with nothing more than cookies.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: nirvanagod on May 24, 2005, 03:50:30 PM
MMMMMM.... fuel for the fire :giggle:  :rollin: !!!! (need shockwave to veiw):
http://www.zxor.net/content/media/flash/mac.swf
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: CougarSE on May 24, 2005, 04:40:10 PM
:flip:  You all!  I'll stick with Linux even if it doesn't rule anything.
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Haystack on May 24, 2005, 05:03:52 PM
linux is the shiznits, itl work with both and have fewer problems then the two combined.(p.s. it will have more then a mac just not together)
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: jkirchman on May 24, 2005, 08:31:57 PM
For Linux users:  http://www.transbuddha.com/mediaHolder.php?id=174
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Snubz-N-Ttown on May 25, 2005, 10:26:30 AM
This has become quite an interesting thread!

Ive never used a mac so I have nothing to say about it, or the people that use them. Its your mac, have fun with it.

All I know is my Dell is over 4 years old, the only upgrades I have made to it is XP, 512mb, and a flat panel. Have always had a cable modem and a router, norton and still use IE.

I dont open emails that I dont know where they came from regardless the situation or what it is titled. I get bored, I do all updates a full system check and in 4 years not one problem. All in all, I LOVE MY PC!!!!
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: EricCoolCats on May 25, 2005, 03:34:08 PM
Just got an interesting piece of spam.....

Quote
From:     "Gustavo Acosta"
Subject:     im'prove the fla`vour of your sperm '


Well thank you very much for the info, Gustavo! I didn't realize that it needed a flavor in the first place. Man, I hope they can make it chocolate--that would be tha biggety bomb. I'd never have to leave the house then! ;)
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Bird351 on May 25, 2005, 03:39:26 PM
Quote from: EricCoolCats
Man, I hope they can make it chocolate--that would be tha biggety bomb. I'd never have to leave the house then! ;)


OMGWTFBBQ Level raised to..
Title: Re: Must have a horsehoe jammed somewhere...
Post by: Thunder Chicken on June 10, 2005, 08:19:05 PM
There's a thing on Dateline Katilsday about this scam right now. They're scamming the scammers