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Title: type of engines
Post by: tbirdera on May 22, 2005, 11:28:21 PM
um I have a efi 5.0 but  I want more hp. SHould I just buy  used 5.0 ho  ? or what other engine should I get instead of that?
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: CougarSE on May 22, 2005, 11:56:04 PM
:flame:
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: jcassity on May 23, 2005, 12:09:27 AM
460,, then mount all ho accy stuff  including harness/eec and injector bungs mated directly to the intake.

now ,,,,,get er done

while your at it,, get a stroker kit for it as well as two 3.8 liter superchargers.  That should pretty much keep you busy for at least an hour or two.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: tbirdera on May 23, 2005, 01:11:48 AM
are you serious?
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: dominator on May 23, 2005, 01:21:19 AM
Just curious but is this that guy i'm gay as hell under another name?
Sounds like the same questons.
It's really sad that we get a half decent community going and there are guys that have to ruin it for everyone.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: Ifixyawata on May 23, 2005, 01:54:44 AM
Get a Hemi.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: CougarSE on May 23, 2005, 01:57:46 AM
Quote from: Ifixyawata
Get a Hemi.


Or four, like that goldenrod or whatever featured in hotrod two months ago.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: Haystack on May 23, 2005, 08:31:07 AM
*sigh* check out the sites and stuff. If you have any problems with what types of parts to get they are usally more frendly. http://www.coolcats.net/tech/
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: tbirdera on May 23, 2005, 08:00:31 PM
Quote from: dominator
Just curious but is this that guy i'm gay as hell under another name?
Sounds like the same questons.
It's really sad that we get a half decent community going and there are guys that have to ruin it for everyone.

  i dunno who your talkin to but im just askin questions u dunt gotta be such as a$$ about it. if you got nuttin nice to say or to contribute den shut it!
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: Bird351 on May 23, 2005, 08:23:02 PM
Quote from: tbirdera
i dunno who your talkin to but im just askin questions u dunt gotta be such as a$$ about it. if you got nuttin nice to say or to contribute den shut it!


You're the one who needs to shut it, son. Do a little reading with the Search function.. we only had to switch boards a year ago to get it. Topics like this have been done to death.. you can make the effort to read up on this shiznit. If you have any questions after you make a reasonable effort to learn, THEN come ask us.

Even with some of the dumbest questions I've asked on this board, at least I've always been searching out stuff on the side, trying to read up on it so I didn't have to ask even more stupid questions if at all possible. I don't always find what I'm looking for, but at least I try. It seems to us like you're just plopping down as many dumb question threads as you can think up in a few minutes. That's why you're getting the reaction you're getting.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: tbirdera on May 23, 2005, 08:40:48 PM
Quote from: Bird351
You're the one who needs to shut it, son. Do a little reading with the Search function.. we only had to switch boards a year ago to get it. Topics like this have been done to death.. you can make the effort to read up on this shiznit. If you have any questions after you make a reasonable effort to learn, THEN come ask us.

Even with some of the dumbest questions I've asked on this board, at least I've always been searching out stuff on the side, trying to read up on it so I didn't have to ask even more stupid questions if at all possible. I don't always find what I'm looking for, but at least I try. It seems to us like you're just plopping down as many dumb question threads as you can think up in a few minutes. That's why you're getting the reaction you're getting.


First off I aint ur son. Get that straight homeboy . Second I did search n I read up on some things, I just wanted peoples opinions. thats all. I wasnt tryin to start anything , I was just curious.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: Bird351 on May 23, 2005, 08:42:07 PM
Our opinions on the topic are all over the  board.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: CougarSE on May 23, 2005, 10:21:28 PM
Tbirdera, the info you want is at CoolCats.net. All of it.  Its been asked and its been told.  If your going to be a newbie please introduce yourself as such.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: tbirdera on May 23, 2005, 10:22:38 PM
nope im not gonna be a newbie. next time some people should just mind der neck if they got a prob. but its all good.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: dominator on May 23, 2005, 10:29:27 PM
Sweet we got rid of another fool just trying to piss us all off.
This guy probably doesn't even own a t-bird.
I find it really curious that the i'mgayashell guy disappears and then this guy shows up asking all the same stupid questions,hmmmmmmm,makes ya think.
As bird 351 said,research and you shall find,can't count how many hours of research i've done.
Thank god your not my son because i would have bitch slapped you long ago and you wouldn't be such a little arogant a**hole.
O and one more thing i forgot to add,i think you need to go back to school for english not cars 
"people should just mind der neck if they got a prob" what's up with that?
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: CougarSE on May 23, 2005, 10:45:39 PM
kinda talks like Mr i'mgayashell doesn't he.....
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: tbirdera on May 23, 2005, 11:04:18 PM
Quote from: dominator
Sweet we got rid of another fool just trying to piss us all off.
This guy probably doesn't even own a t-bird.
I find it really curious that the i'mgayashell guy disappears and then this guy shows up asking all the same stupid questions,hmmmmmmm,makes ya think.
As bird 351 said,research and you shall find,can't count how many hours of research i've done.
Thank god your not my son because i would have bitch slapped you long ago and you wouldn't be such a little arogant a**hole.
O and one more thing i forgot to add,i think you need to go back to school for english not cars 
"people should just mind der neck if they got a prob" what's up with that?

First off I do own a T bird second I stopped wit the bs and I did search  what are you dat dumb or something. Kill it already . I was just asking some questions.  Just stop the flaming , just cuz u got a t bird or w/e and you think your mr know it all stfu and go some were else, go get laid or something. You got nuttin else to do but to pick on a 17 year old. wow man you must not have a life.. :flip:
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: Chuck W on May 24, 2005, 01:29:42 AM
No....I think they're just wondering how many times you're going to ask the same questions. Even after folks have given you a direction to pursue for you to look into your own course of action, you come back and say...."Make my car fast. What should I do?"

I don't care whether you're 17 or 47...... You will never learn anything if you never listen to the advice your given.  By all means though, ask again for the 4th or 5th time what you can do to your car to increase hp...pretty soon you'll just get ignored....
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: jcassity on May 24, 2005, 09:10:30 AM
now would be a good time to rewind......

tbirdera
you could start off by doing the old "stare and compare" technique.  Take a look at whats out there then pop your hood and wish.  When the wallet fills that void,, go get a bone yard motor and if you lucky enough, you strike a good deal. Rebuild it and possibly add a stroker kit.

its a matter of opinion if you pick a 2.3 turbo, 3.8, 3.8 sc, 5.0 so, 5.0 ho, 5.8 windsor, 5.8 cleveland, 460 or what ever. 
the 5.8 351 cleveland is what you want , happy hunting on that one.
Just see what you can afford.  Make life easier and snag the wiring / computer to the engine as well.

what level of experience do you have so others know how to explain things when it gets down to the dirty work.  Its a totally different world explaining things to people without vs with experience.  with experience, you can just skip to the chase and shoot out all this technical bla bla.  with folks who are first timers,, some delicate and specific wording burdens the replies.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: jcassity on May 24, 2005, 09:16:30 AM
another suggestion which might help you out (if your serious)

click on.........
start
programs
accessories
notpad


now surf through the various posts about things you are needing.

when you find info,, highlight it and
right click
copy
open notpad up
right click
paste.

you can build yourself a knowledge base for reference later on.  You cant depend on anyone but yourself when it comes to things like this so keep track and collect info like that.
save your notepad file and keep updating it when you see something you consider a keeper.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: CougarSE on May 24, 2005, 11:31:49 AM
jcassity you have so much patience
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: V8Demon on May 24, 2005, 11:56:11 AM
Quote
No....I think they're just wondering how many times you're going to ask the same questions. Even after folks have given you a direction to pursue for you to look into your own course of action, you come back and say...."Make my car fast. What should I do?"


What Chuck states is true.  You've basically asked how to get more power 3 times now....We've had a couple of others who have come here with the sole intent of g people off.  One would ask the same questions over and over again.....
If your here to learn and have a good time talkin in the lounge, well then welcome aboard.  I would suggest researching the coolcats tech page link that has been given up above on this thread (and twice before on the other threads you started).  Remember there is no one way to ga fast there are many different ways that all work differently.  Do some research and see which way appeals to you.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: tbirdera on May 24, 2005, 05:18:32 PM
Well I have started taking notes down. Im sorry for asking the same question , just that I have all this urge to try to make my t bird a car that has balls . Cougar Se I dont want any beef with you wat so ever. Im being the bigger person to say my fault on that if you wanna be friends its fine with me , we dunt have to be enemies, but if you do den dunt matta do me.  Next time Ill clarify what I need info on and not say the same thing
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: tbirdera on May 24, 2005, 05:40:04 PM
Quote from: jcassity
now would be a good time to rewind......

tbirdera
you could start off by doing the old "stare and compare" technique.  Take a look at whats out there then pop your hood and wish.  When the wallet fills that void,, go get a bone yard motor and if you lucky enough, you strike a good deal. Rebuild it and possibly add a stroker kit.

its a matter of opinion if you pick a 2.3 turbo, 3.8, 3.8 sc, 5.0 so, 5.0 ho, 5.8 windsor, 5.8 cleveland, 460 or what ever. 
the 5.8 351 cleveland is what you want , happy hunting on that one.
Just see what you can afford.  Make life easier and snag the wiring / computer to the engine as well.

what level of experience do you have so others know how to explain things when it gets down to the dirty work.  Its a totally different world explaining things to people without vs with experience.  with experience, you can just skip to the chase and shoot out all this technical bla bla.  with folks who are first timers,, some delicate and specific wording burdens the replies.



for the 351 cleveland is there a specific year of when the engine came out that I need to get to fit in to my t bird? Or are they all the same?
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: Chuck W on May 24, 2005, 07:33:33 PM
You should take the time and think about what you actually want out of the car.  Are you only concerned with straightline performance, or are you looking for a more balanced package that can stop and turn as well as get up and go?  Dropping a heavy engine in the nose of the car is not going to do anything good for the balance and handling of the car.  Is it your only car?  Is it the one you have to drive and get you around every day?  Things to consider....
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: Clayton on May 24, 2005, 07:43:13 PM
what does your car have in it? if it has a 5.0 put a dual 2.5 exhaust system on it, CAI, and a HO upper intake........that should make it a little more balsy
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: tbirdera on May 24, 2005, 08:14:44 PM
Quote from: Chuck W
You should take the time and think about what you actually want out of the car.  Are you only concerned with straightline performance, or are you looking for a more balanced package that can stop and turn as well as get up and go?  Dropping a heavy engine in the nose of the car is not going to do anything good for the balance and handling of the car.  Is it your only car?  Is it the one you have to drive and get you around every day?  Things to consider....



I want a car that is mostly performance and that can have some pretty  good handle but mostly performance.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: jcassity on May 25, 2005, 01:41:25 AM
Quote from: tbirdera
for the 351 cleveland is there a specific year of when the engine came out that I need to get to fit in to my t bird? Or are they all the same?


you've just won a prize... :deal:
http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=2984
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: tbirdera on May 25, 2005, 07:47:56 PM
thanks alot for that info, so it will fit then I guess.
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: im gay as hell on May 26, 2005, 06:02:48 PM
Quote from: dominator
Just curious but is this that guy i'm gay as hell under another name?
Sounds like the same questons.
It's really sad that we get a half decent community going and there are guys that have to ruin it for everyone.

 

no why would i come under a ****in differenty name to ask question Dominater
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: im gay as hell on May 26, 2005, 06:09:42 PM
for the one that keep thinking that im asking dumb questions under different name ya can lick my sack
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: Bird351 on May 26, 2005, 06:45:17 PM
:locked: :locked: :locked:
Title: Re: type of engines
Post by: Thunder Chicken on May 26, 2005, 06:47:36 PM
Ya, I think this one has degraded quite enough...