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Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: 347Thunder on July 25, 2011, 02:13:42 PM
So, this all started one very hot day when my car wasn't charging well because the battery was low and I had all my acc on. I started to just fix the problem in hand but i was like hey? why do I need all the computer wires across the firewall, then wires started flying then my friend was like I cant get to all the wires with the dash still connected, so that had to come out. I have been screwing with this thing for about a month now, when will it ever end...... I also decided I would never have air so I removed the air box and gave it to sarjxxx, now I have a 5 gal bucket full of wire and a bunck of holes in my firewall, not to mention ALL THE EFFIN WIRE!!!!!!!!!!!:punchballs:But the car should weigh 50-60lbs less. I did the pedal swap and in the process of installing my line lock, WHAT A FRIGGIN NIGHTMARE!!!!!!!
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Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: EFFalcon on July 25, 2011, 06:29:15 PM
those photos scare the  out of me.
these things must have the worst wiring looms in them, Ford mustn't of heard of electrical tape at this point.

in saying that, its something i'm keen to do on mine :|
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: daminc on July 25, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
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Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: 347Thunder on July 25, 2011, 07:46:02 PM
Quote from: EFFalcon;364033
those photos scare the  out of me.
these things must have the worst wiring looms in them, Ford mustn't of heard of electrical tape at this point.

in saying that, its something i'm keen to do on mine :|

 
it had some cloth tape that just fell apart in my hands
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: sarjxxx on July 25, 2011, 08:40:09 PM
lol it doesn't look any different than when I left :giggle:

hey did you get the headlight harnesses yet?
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: 86T-bird on July 25, 2011, 09:46:38 PM
Wow!

When asked about what I've changed on my car, I say "there are only two things original to the car, the wire harness and the blower motor".  After seeing those pics, I hope the wire harness never goes up in smoke!
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: MY83T on July 25, 2011, 10:34:15 PM
holy short circuit Batman!
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: Beau on July 26, 2011, 02:09:31 AM
About how mine looks right now...mine scares the hell out of me, and I swapped from EATC to manual controls...thank god for an EVTM and this place, coolcats, and Carm's site.
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: vinnietbird on July 26, 2011, 06:49:42 AM
Crazy looking mess. Reminds me of when I had to swap a lot of wiring when my fuse box melted.
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: Thunder Chicken on July 26, 2011, 07:55:13 AM
Ahh yes, I remember those days:
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When I did this (dash swap) I was stupid and didn't swap the pedals while I was in there. A few months later I did the pedal swap, and it was a PITA

--and that cloth tape Ford covered the wires with was gross. All it did was make the wires sticky.

My next one will be stripped and wired from scratch...
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: Chuck W on July 26, 2011, 08:49:46 AM
I got about a half step away from doing that when I was putting the car back together and installing the MegaSquirt.

I still might do it, as the car really needs a set of real gauges, even though I'm partial to the stock look.  I also keep thinking about rewiring the whole car with one of those ISIS power systems.
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: Soul on July 26, 2011, 09:22:02 AM
Just checked ISIS website and wow, thats pretty neat. I'm guessing no relays are needed then since it uses those power blocks?

Also chuck, are those scopes infront of your rear wheel functional? If so the are BA.
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: 347Thunder on July 26, 2011, 09:43:19 AM
Quote from: sarjxxx;364045
lol it doesn't look any different than when I left :giggle:

hey did you get the headlight harnesses yet?

 
I know but if you look really close you can see that I spent another 15 hours on it......NOT!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: 347Thunder on July 26, 2011, 09:55:06 AM
The only thing that i'm having trouble is the flash to pass relay only working when I power it up manually, when the key goes on it stops working???? once I figure that out I can start wrapping the wires up and get back to driving. I found this wire loom tape that I highly recommend!!!! I wrapped some wires and have had it in the sun for a week and it still isn't sticky, and priced nice.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=wire+loom+tape&hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7SUNA&prmd=ivns&resnum=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1152&bih=635&wrapid=tlif131168831788010&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9193848551971216011&sa=X&ei=gMYuTqOFC-Xe0QHqpuncAQ&ved=0CHEQ8gIwAA#
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: Soul on July 26, 2011, 10:01:45 AM
*Hijacking post removed* Btw good work.
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: Chuck W on July 26, 2011, 10:14:55 AM
Quote from: Soul;364066
So If I under stood isis correctly this all you would need?  meant to add blower motor, which how would you control it since looks like the only support on and off in basic kit, so Full blower or no blower.


I wouldn't clutter up his thread with this.
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: Soul on July 26, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Sorry. I'll edit and remove.
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: 347Thunder on July 26, 2011, 03:38:06 PM
thanks, who's "isis"
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: Soul on July 26, 2011, 03:49:58 PM
ISIS power systems, they make wiring solutions for cars apparently (just looked at them). Their system consists of a Master cell (controller for electric system) and Power Cell (things that actually recieve the power). So the Master cell is a micro controller that reads multiple inputs and communicats with the power cell via a CAN (smaller cable) and the PC recieves the input and turns on the device. SO instead of having to run your Brake light switch, blinkers, and tail lights individually all the way to the back, you instead put to the PC and the pc has a single wire (will like 4-5 but is sealed in single wire) that runs back to the power cell which in turn is conected to the tail lights and tells it what to do based on the input from the MC. Its 1k for a 3 cell kit though.
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: 347Thunder on September 11, 2011, 10:25:05 PM
I cant believe I did it!!!!!!!!!!! I just need to plumb in the line lock and get a -4an fitting for the oil pressure line and i'm done, just in time for the Ford show september 17

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Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: The Shredder on September 12, 2011, 10:09:56 AM
And everything works!?  :)  It looks great!  And I'm sure you have a great sense of satisfaction.  Good job.

I hope to be wrapping up my dash re-installation this week.  I can't wait to get it driveable.
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: 347Thunder on September 12, 2011, 11:09:31 AM
yes surprisingly i had a few problems on reassembly but nothing I couldn't handle, it was 2 months of HELL!!!!!!!!!!!:punchballs:
Title: Soooo...... I've been busy lots of wire
Post by: flylear45 on September 13, 2011, 06:21:55 AM
Nice work, looks fantastic!