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Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: BlackBird88 on March 30, 2011, 08:14:31 PM
I've got an 88 thunderbird lx 5.0 I is all stock under the hood. I just got an explorer upper and lower intake setup with tb, mass air, and inj. I am not sure how hard the conversion to mass air is and if the throttle body/egr spacer, and throttle linkage. thanks any help will be appreciated.
Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: Nate on March 30, 2011, 09:31:07 PM
why are you converting? did you get the heads/cam to go with it? are you running an HO computer?

all you need is the computer, to re-pin your cars plug with 3 new wires, and to run them up to the maf.

search around, it's been talked about thousands of times
Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: vinnietbird on March 30, 2011, 10:05:17 PM
You need to do the H.O conversion first. Then go from there.
Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on March 30, 2011, 11:17:18 PM
A STOCK HO actually runs quicker on a Speed Densety setup... You cannot run any HO computer on a std 5.0, firing orders are different, injectors are smaller, etc...
Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: BlackBird88 on March 31, 2011, 03:32:25 PM
do you know if the 88 S.O has a roller cam?
Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: V8Demon on March 31, 2011, 04:03:44 PM
Yes.  At least it should provided the block has not been swapped out for an older one....
Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: vinnietbird on March 31, 2011, 04:21:27 PM
This is VERY true. When I did the H.O swap a few years back for the first time, that car pulled HARD. Awesome running Bird. No Mass Air needed. The H.O swap can be done in just a few hours. Not a big deal at all, but it'll make a HUGE difference in your car. Here's what you'll need....

H.O cam
H.O speed density computer
8-19# injectors
double roller timing chain (I'd swap on a new water pump as well if yours is old)
better than stock exhaust

 That's it (other than gaskets and fluids).
Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: BlackBird88 on March 31, 2011, 04:40:11 PM
thanks for the info...
Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: 87tbird5.0 on April 03, 2011, 07:38:10 PM
can u run the stock upper and lower intakes and heads with what you said vinnietbird?
Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: hypostang on April 03, 2011, 08:51:48 PM
Quote from: 87tbird5.0;357115
can u run the stock upper and lower intakes and heads with what you said vinnietbird?

The lower intake is the same HO and non HO, Optimally you should run at least the HO upper and throttle body .  The stock heads will perform adequately. I left my stock heads alone when I did the HO conversion.
Title: can anyone give me info on converting to mass-air from speed density?
Post by: Haystack on April 03, 2011, 10:52:27 PM
Lots of people, me included, run a h.o. intake and throttle body on a stock s.o. before doing the swap.