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There's a reason everyone says Hyundais suck. Even the good ones... lol.

Just for curiosity, why a Camaro, and not a Mustang or Charger? I'm not knockin it, I know its sweet, but I just wondered what your particular opinion was on why it and not the other two?

I have a hard time choosing one of the three... in a hypothetical world where I could afford to buy any of them that is lol

Then again, I don't like what everyone else likes. ;)

Well the charger is a four door car. I really wanted to stay in the relm on a coupe, granted I have come out of that, but still. I want to look at a new Charger with AWD, in that cirspoogestance, I'll tolerate the 4 doors to have a car that should be pretty decent in the snow, and nice in the summer too. But everyplace I called they are 3-6 weeks out. Again, for the AWD ones. The Mustang, I dunno, you see them all the time and they become a staple. The Camaro's are selling, but you don't see them all the time.

The only thing that stopped me from the Camaro like 2 months ago was It's hard to see when changing lanes etc. But the other night while laying in bed I sprung up, sort of one of those movie scenes, and I had an epiphany. I could get the little circular stick on mirror for the side view mirrors for a couple of months. Yeah, they look sorta "stupid" but who is really going to notice them. And really 420 ponies at my right foot to get the same mileage I'm getting now with 150 ponies, is worth it's weight in gold.

I think the Hyundai 10/100 only applies to new car buyers.  The 5/60 stays with the car no matter how many owners it has.  Anything beyond that is probably one of those aftermarket warranty type things.

Ever consider an SN95? I'm seriously thinking of selling mine.

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Man you should try taking another look at the genesis coupe, one of my buddys works at a hyundai dealership and he got to drive the 2010 Genesis 3.8 with the track pack and 6mt and that thing was a beast he let me drive it and well i was alittle rusty at shifting and dropped the clutch acouple of times but once i got the hang of it you couldn't give me a new mustang, camaro, or challenger and as much as i hate to say it it's the only other car i like better than my bird and thats saying alot. Hopefully by the end of this year i will have one parked in my driveway sitting pretty next to my bird.

Not really. Nice car, but too many of them around.

No offense here, but isn't that kind of the same with those new Camaro's? I don't know about Mass., but I see them everywhere here. I understand your point though, I wouldn't want a "belly button" car either, but sadly the new Camaro's (as well as other's) are becoming that way too. But, personal preference is alway key, buy something that makes you happy, it's good you're looking around though, I would've jumped the gun  and mistakenly bought something I would eventually hate. Good luck.

To the guy that said you couldn't give him a new mustang or x y z car over a genesis. Sure it's a nice car but i'd have to assume you have yet to drive the twentyeleven mustang GT. I dunno, maybe you have. I'm not trying to devalue your opinion. The Genesis is a nice little car but completely outclassed by the new mustang in every way. If i keep my car i have a feeling it will have a new coyote under the hood before long.

No offense here, but isn't that kind of the same with those new Camaro's? I don't know about Mass., but I see them everywhere here. I understand your point though, I wouldn't want a "belly button" car either, but sadly the new Camaro's (as well as other's) are becoming that way too. But, personal preference is alway key, buy something that makes you happy, it's good you're looking around though, I would've jumped the gun  and mistakenly bought something I would eventually hate. Good luck.

That goes to say with any of the new cars really. At least mine is custom/different and turns heads constantly. The new bowtie is everywhere and so is the mustang. Only difference is the '11 mustang is many times a better car imho than the camaro in any trim. That thing sucks and it's ugmo. The guy is local so i figured i'd throw it out there.

To the guy that said you couldn't give him a new mustang or x y z car over a genesis. Sure it's a nice car but i'd have to assume you have yet to drive the twentyeleven mustang GT. I dunno, maybe you have. I'm not trying to devalue your opinion. The Genesis is a nice little car but completely outclassed by the new mustang in every way. If i keep my car i have a feeling it will have a new coyote under the hood before long.

I dunno, I need something, the old bird is dying.

Dump the 20+ grad your gonna spend on a new car into the bird and i bet you will be glad you did :D

Actually, I think I've seen four camaro's in the past year. Four on the road without dealer plates that is.


I wasn't trying to insult you. Please don't take it that way. I have to disagree with you about the Mustang vs. Camaro debate. That 6.2 in the Camaro is a powerhouse. I was going to stop by and look at a mustang today, but it was raining. The genesis is a nice car a everyday drivable car, but it's nothing the Camaro boarders on something that can't be driven daily. The mustang, I don't know. It looks okay but the Camaro is all around a better car. Just looking at the suspension design and the engineering put into it, the mustang is just more of the same.

I dunno, I need something, the old bird is dying.

I'm not offended at all. I don't care who does and doesn't like my car for what ever reason at all.

You really think the camaro is better all around? How? The 6.2 may be a powerhouse but the cars are bloated ugly garbage. When i see them running consistent high 13s and low 14s at the track with the power they make it makes me chuckle. I can pull on them with 100 less HP. The mustang can be driven into the 12s by anyone. Its better looking (subjective) out handles, out brakes and gets better gas mileage than the camaro. The interior imho is much better in the mustang as well. Couple all that with the fact that the camaro was built by a welfare company and i just can't see the appeal.

I dunno, I guess i just don't get it. I wouldn't trade my car strait up for one (camaro) if i had to keep it but i'd say good buy in a new york second for the mustang.

the Mustangs---well I'm still not a fan , outside of the power plants

and it's only the 4.6 motor. Not that there is a huge power difference between the two just saying.

IThe economy, either car is going to suck down just as much fuel as my stock 5.0 in my Thunderbird.

Obviously I looked at a Mustang, I looked at both a 2011 and a 2010. The 2011 was 34,999 without nav. Obviously I could talk them down some. The used one had 34000 miles on it and they were at like 28k OTD but it had nav, etc. 34k miles in a year!? That guy did a shi* ton of driving. The clutch was clearly a little worn, compared to the new one, and it's only the 4.6 motor. Not that there is a huge power difference between the two just saying.

But I think the Camaro handled better. I took an onramp in the camaro at 65mph and it was fine. I took a similar onramp at 50 in the 2011 and it was struggling. You could hear it making noises, complaining about what I asked it to do.

As far as "welfare motors" yeah okay, I'll give that one to you. But it's really not Gm's fault.

I call BS on the camaro handaling better.

The 2011 was 34,999 without nav. Obviously I could talk them down some.

The used one had 34000 miles on it and they were at like 28k OTD but it had nav, etc. 34k miles in a year!? That guy did a shi* ton of driving.

I'd drop consideration of the '10 GT, unless they bring the price down a lot. I've seen 2010 GT's (with less than 300 miles on them) for 25-26K here in Fl.