Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 01, 2011, 03:28:25 PM
Post by: Beau on January 01, 2011, 03:28:25 PM
Woohoo, it's a balmy 25 degrees outside, and I'm gonna get '11 off to a hopeful start by pulling the front control arms off of the white car for use on the Sport.
After I get them off I'll throw em into my woodstove :hick: to burn out the rubber bushings, then Monday I'll take 'em to work and throw them in the sandblaster.
I've got some work to do, as I plan to dd the Sport when it warms up and they quit salting the roads.
I still need to decide on how to do the 5 lug fronts, whether it'll be with the Mark VII rotors I have now, or Stang spindles, rotors and brakes.
The rear I already have a pair of 5 lug axles, planned to grab the rest of the necessary parts from a stang on the next jy trip.
I'd like to throw in some Bullitt or mach springs, but I may just run the TC springs for now and worry about that later, when it warms up.
After I get it back on all 4, I need to address the interior and finish putting all the pieces back together, after a thorough cleaning.
Then, I need to open the T5 and replace the synchros, bearing retainer, and whatever else needs fixed into the near-impossible 2nd upshift/downshift.
I adjusted the piss out of the clutch cable, and actually got it to go in second, but there's nothing fast or smooth about it, and I want it fixed before I use it again.
After that, I plan to drive it when the weather is decent, until I get money for bodywork and paint, which will probably be about the year 2150 or so...
After I get them off I'll throw em into my woodstove :hick: to burn out the rubber bushings, then Monday I'll take 'em to work and throw them in the sandblaster.
I've got some work to do, as I plan to dd the Sport when it warms up and they quit salting the roads.
I still need to decide on how to do the 5 lug fronts, whether it'll be with the Mark VII rotors I have now, or Stang spindles, rotors and brakes.
The rear I already have a pair of 5 lug axles, planned to grab the rest of the necessary parts from a stang on the next jy trip.
I'd like to throw in some Bullitt or mach springs, but I may just run the TC springs for now and worry about that later, when it warms up.
After I get it back on all 4, I need to address the interior and finish putting all the pieces back together, after a thorough cleaning.
Then, I need to open the T5 and replace the synchros, bearing retainer, and whatever else needs fixed into the near-impossible 2nd upshift/downshift.
I adjusted the piss out of the clutch cable, and actually got it to go in second, but there's nothing fast or smooth about it, and I want it fixed before I use it again.
After that, I plan to drive it when the weather is decent, until I get money for bodywork and paint, which will probably be about the year 2150 or so...
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 01, 2011, 08:25:14 PM
Post by: Beau on January 01, 2011, 08:25:14 PM
I've got the driver front control arm off, it's in the stove now to melt the rubber bushings out.
Man, that was a fight...the spring would just NOT come out of the pocket. Beat the livin' piss out of it with a 10 pound maul before it finally came loose. Never ever seen one stick like that...
Gonna get the pass. side arm off tomorrow, so I can get the bushings out of it, and get them blasted for painting.
I already had the driver's side out, but apparently when the old sleeves/bushings were pressed out, something got bent, as it doesn't line up with the brackets on the subframe. Sucks.
I had another thread about this car, but I got tired of all the pics of nothing that it contained..I will make this thread a little more productive.
For now, the mods include:
5.0HO/T5 from '89 Stang GT
8.8 disc rear, 3.55 ration from '88 TC
11" rotors, calipers from '88 TC
Motorsport seats
strut brace
255 lb/hour Walbro f/p
TC hood, header panel, wheels, and misc. interior stuff
CHE non-adj. rear control arms
It's an '88 Sport, with almost every option but heated seats or memory seats.
Some of the other stuff I've done is remove sound deadener, changed the cluster bulbs to red and remove the puke green filters for such, swapped in a different interior (still working on that heh)
It was pretty rough when I bought it, but the scarcity of anything besides 3.8 cars around compelled me to grab it for under 5 bills. It ran just fine with the SO engine, my dad thought I was nuts for yanking a perfectly good engine for another one....he just doesn't get the "more power" bug...
I'm just gonna start doing what little I can with the time and money I can put aside for it, one of these days it'll be picture worthy, however picture worthy a 22 year old car in flat black can be..lol
I'd eventually like to drop in a TFS-headed 5.0, or windsor...but that's spending money I ain'ts got...probably try to pick up a set of gt40s and a nice cam, and go from there till something breaks in the engine.
Only thing I regret....not leaving the thing auto tranny.
Man, that was a fight...the spring would just NOT come out of the pocket. Beat the livin' piss out of it with a 10 pound maul before it finally came loose. Never ever seen one stick like that...
Gonna get the pass. side arm off tomorrow, so I can get the bushings out of it, and get them blasted for painting.
I already had the driver's side out, but apparently when the old sleeves/bushings were pressed out, something got bent, as it doesn't line up with the brackets on the subframe. Sucks.
I had another thread about this car, but I got tired of all the pics of nothing that it contained..I will make this thread a little more productive.
For now, the mods include:
5.0HO/T5 from '89 Stang GT
8.8 disc rear, 3.55 ration from '88 TC
11" rotors, calipers from '88 TC
Motorsport seats
strut brace
255 lb/hour Walbro f/p
TC hood, header panel, wheels, and misc. interior stuff
CHE non-adj. rear control arms
It's an '88 Sport, with almost every option but heated seats or memory seats.
Some of the other stuff I've done is remove sound deadener, changed the cluster bulbs to red and remove the puke green filters for such, swapped in a different interior (still working on that heh)
It was pretty rough when I bought it, but the scarcity of anything besides 3.8 cars around compelled me to grab it for under 5 bills. It ran just fine with the SO engine, my dad thought I was nuts for yanking a perfectly good engine for another one....he just doesn't get the "more power" bug...
I'm just gonna start doing what little I can with the time and money I can put aside for it, one of these days it'll be picture worthy, however picture worthy a 22 year old car in flat black can be..lol
I'd eventually like to drop in a TFS-headed 5.0, or windsor...but that's spending money I ain'ts got...probably try to pick up a set of gt40s and a nice cam, and go from there till something breaks in the engine.
Only thing I regret....not leaving the thing auto tranny.
Title: My Sport
Post by: hypostang on January 01, 2011, 08:34:29 PM
Post by: hypostang on January 01, 2011, 08:34:29 PM
No matter how it looks, it is always picture worthy :)
Title: My Sport
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on January 01, 2011, 08:42:59 PM
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on January 01, 2011, 08:42:59 PM
It will be nice to see the car come together. And you can always send me that T-5, you can have my AOD:hick:
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 01, 2011, 08:58:32 PM
Post by: Beau on January 01, 2011, 08:58:32 PM
Quote from: 20thanniver-ls;348006
It will be nice to see the car come together. And you can always send me that T-5, you can have my AOD:hick:
Throw in the shifter stuff, and I might just contemplate a trade...wouldn't be fair though, the T5 needs a little work...
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 02, 2011, 06:16:57 PM
Post by: Beau on January 02, 2011, 06:16:57 PM
Had a little free time so I pulled the pass. control arm, got the ball joint knocked out, and snapped a few pics, in case y'all forgot what an ugly car I have.
First off, here's a pic or two of the (bent) first driver side arm after paint:
hard to see how the narrow side is a little twisted.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310038.jpg)
Here's a better indicator:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310040.jpg)
Guess it must have been when I pressed out the old shiznit.
Here's the bare front
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310042.jpg)
Contemplating taking off the K and cleaning/painting it too.
Engine in a baggie
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310043.jpg)
The Ugly Duckling
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310044.jpg)
incompleteness personified
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310045.jpg)
need a new rack, right?
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310047.jpg)
First off, here's a pic or two of the (bent) first driver side arm after paint:
hard to see how the narrow side is a little twisted.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310038.jpg)
Here's a better indicator:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310040.jpg)
Guess it must have been when I pressed out the old shiznit.
Here's the bare front
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310042.jpg)
Contemplating taking off the K and cleaning/painting it too.
Engine in a baggie
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310043.jpg)
The Ugly Duckling
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310044.jpg)
incompleteness personified
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310045.jpg)
need a new rack, right?
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/P1310047.jpg)
Title: My Sport
Post by: hypostang on January 02, 2011, 06:23:47 PM
Post by: hypostang on January 02, 2011, 06:23:47 PM
Man I love those seats
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on January 02, 2011, 06:28:14 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on January 02, 2011, 06:28:14 PM
Beau, you have some work to do. It would be nice for you to get this car mostly done (mechanically) this year so you can enjoy it. Hey,what shifter is that on your 5 speed?
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 02, 2011, 07:40:29 PM
Post by: Beau on January 02, 2011, 07:40:29 PM
The seats are Motorsport units, from what I gather they're pretty uncommon. They were in the ASC/McLaren Capri I owned for a bit in 05.
The shifter, I can't recall, it's not a name brand piece though. I'd have to look at it up close, I can't remember. Surprisingly, the stock (tc) shifter handle fits right on...
I'd dearly love to get the mechanicals done, and at least the interior all together. I've got an idea for headliner (Thanks Chuckw!)..after I satisfy some parts obligations, I'll be buying a sheet of plastic and cutting it for a backing piece. My headliner is bent, creased, and torn, gouged and looks like it's been through a war. The seats are filthy, a cat got in the shop sometime last summer, was locked in for a day or so, pissed on the passenger seat. I liberally coated it with baking soda...doesn't stink anymore, but they do need a good deep cleaning.
If I had something to keep a little area of the shop warm, or about 40-50 degrees without fuming me out, I'd work on it at nights and in what little spare time I have. There's a drive in me that i've never had before to finish this thing, but this time I'm doing it right, the first time. My main goal was to take as much stuff off, clean, repaint, and undercoat what needed it, but that may have to wait a year or so. I mostly want to drive it this spring/summer/fall to work, and just generally have a fun ride. Looking toward eventually doing a little autocross after I get educated on what is required, allowed mods, so on, so forth.
For suspension, it's getting Energy Suspension pretty well all over in the front, the rears are CHE non-adjustables with whatever bushings are in them, pretty sure they're poly, they didn't feel none too soft when I somewhat gently poked 'em with a big phillips screwdriver. Vinnie, also going to use those SN95 struts I got from you last year, and also going to use Mustang shocks out back with Chuck's adaptors I have. Can't remember who I bought them from, but thanks anyway!
After I get the arms cleaned and painted and the ES bushings in, I'll snap another pic...still debating on yanking the k, but at this point, seems like unneeded work. No sense having a show car where it can't be seen from 20 feet away, and it's only slightly rusty...I WILL do something about the spots of rust that are there, though.
Thanks for reading my book here, lol :D
The shifter, I can't recall, it's not a name brand piece though. I'd have to look at it up close, I can't remember. Surprisingly, the stock (tc) shifter handle fits right on...
I'd dearly love to get the mechanicals done, and at least the interior all together. I've got an idea for headliner (Thanks Chuckw!)..after I satisfy some parts obligations, I'll be buying a sheet of plastic and cutting it for a backing piece. My headliner is bent, creased, and torn, gouged and looks like it's been through a war. The seats are filthy, a cat got in the shop sometime last summer, was locked in for a day or so, pissed on the passenger seat. I liberally coated it with baking soda...doesn't stink anymore, but they do need a good deep cleaning.
If I had something to keep a little area of the shop warm, or about 40-50 degrees without fuming me out, I'd work on it at nights and in what little spare time I have. There's a drive in me that i've never had before to finish this thing, but this time I'm doing it right, the first time. My main goal was to take as much stuff off, clean, repaint, and undercoat what needed it, but that may have to wait a year or so. I mostly want to drive it this spring/summer/fall to work, and just generally have a fun ride. Looking toward eventually doing a little autocross after I get educated on what is required, allowed mods, so on, so forth.
For suspension, it's getting Energy Suspension pretty well all over in the front, the rears are CHE non-adjustables with whatever bushings are in them, pretty sure they're poly, they didn't feel none too soft when I somewhat gently poked 'em with a big phillips screwdriver. Vinnie, also going to use those SN95 struts I got from you last year, and also going to use Mustang shocks out back with Chuck's adaptors I have. Can't remember who I bought them from, but thanks anyway!
After I get the arms cleaned and painted and the ES bushings in, I'll snap another pic...still debating on yanking the k, but at this point, seems like unneeded work. No sense having a show car where it can't be seen from 20 feet away, and it's only slightly rusty...I WILL do something about the spots of rust that are there, though.
Thanks for reading my book here, lol :D
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on January 03, 2011, 06:18:52 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on January 03, 2011, 06:18:52 PM
Keep it up. One step at a time. I've been there,and I'm still there.LOL.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 05, 2011, 03:58:25 PM
Post by: Beau on January 05, 2011, 03:58:25 PM
Well, the dash is out...again. , I'm going to be certified as an ASE dash remover...ughh.
The reason I yanked it THIS time....I had an issue from before where a small bundle of wiring was taped up too tightly and wouldn't allow the dash to rest properly against the firewall. Also, I'm going to clean the carpet really good and do as much cleaning and reassembly to the interior as I can while I gather up the bits for the frontend.
I did it the easy way, removed the seats and dropped the column...then I saw just how filthy the carpet had gotten to be, so it came out too.
Seats also need a good cleaning, dusty, musty, and the pass. seat has baking soda caked into it. See the previous post that refers to cat piss. Bastids.
No sense in putting dirty pieces back in.
Pics after work...stay tuned
The reason I yanked it THIS time....I had an issue from before where a small bundle of wiring was taped up too tightly and wouldn't allow the dash to rest properly against the firewall. Also, I'm going to clean the carpet really good and do as much cleaning and reassembly to the interior as I can while I gather up the bits for the frontend.
I did it the easy way, removed the seats and dropped the column...then I saw just how filthy the carpet had gotten to be, so it came out too.
Seats also need a good cleaning, dusty, musty, and the pass. seat has baking soda caked into it. See the previous post that refers to cat piss. Bastids.
No sense in putting dirty pieces back in.
Pics after work...stay tuned
Title: My Sport
Post by: sarjxxx on January 05, 2011, 09:53:12 PM
Post by: sarjxxx on January 05, 2011, 09:53:12 PM
lol, "Thunderbird" on the dash. thats awesome. Just like what I did with my cougar.
You sound a lot like what I've been saying lately. Just wanna get the gd thing running at this point and don't too much care what it looks like heh.
You sound a lot like what I've been saying lately. Just wanna get the gd thing running at this point and don't too much care what it looks like heh.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on February 24, 2011, 12:09:54 PM
Post by: Beau on February 24, 2011, 12:09:54 PM
I've been doing a little shopping, acquired a pretty nice floorshifter, cable, and bracket for an AOD, just need to get a decent for it, and go back for the AOD in the Mark 7 I saw. Seems like something else has changed too.....Oh yeah! Suddenly I have no need for the 4 lug snowflakes anymore. I just pulled the trigger on a 5 lug setup setup from a '94-'95 Stang.
Still need to locate the rear calipers and rotors...or there's the stuff on the previously mentioned Mark 7.
I also picked up a 3G and a ministarter as well...but I won't worry about those until after the car is mobile, as I'm not well versed in the changed needed to use those parts. Yet.
Things are starting to come together, and when I get the Sport mobile, I have another Fox i'm very interested in. I'll tease everyone and say that it was pictured on this forum about a year ago when the current owner bought it lol.
More to come soon..and pics too I guess
Still need to locate the rear calipers and rotors...or there's the stuff on the previously mentioned Mark 7.
I also picked up a 3G and a ministarter as well...but I won't worry about those until after the car is mobile, as I'm not well versed in the changed needed to use those parts. Yet.
Things are starting to come together, and when I get the Sport mobile, I have another Fox i'm very interested in. I'll tease everyone and say that it was pictured on this forum about a year ago when the current owner bought it lol.
More to come soon..and pics too I guess
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 08, 2011, 12:31:48 PM
Post by: Beau on March 08, 2011, 12:31:48 PM
New ball joints in, depending on the wife's work schedule and how early I need to get up with the kids, I may try to get one side put together tonight after work. Not a huge rush though, have to wait till payday for a new pair of front calipers...if I had bigger wheels, I'd just get the cobra stuff and only have to do it once, but the 5 lug wheels I have are only 16" so it'll be stock (Mustang) brakes for now.
I have to research a bit and see if I'm going to need new bakes hoses for the SN95 calipers...I currently have the 11" TC/Stang 5.0 hoses.
Also have to grab a few lug studs. I may go bolt some stuff up here in a few, stay tuned for a few pics of my snail's progress lol.
I have to research a bit and see if I'm going to need new bakes hoses for the SN95 calipers...I currently have the 11" TC/Stang 5.0 hoses.
Also have to grab a few lug studs. I may go bolt some stuff up here in a few, stay tuned for a few pics of my snail's progress lol.
Title: My Sport
Post by: RunninWild on March 08, 2011, 05:06:38 PM
Post by: RunninWild on March 08, 2011, 05:06:38 PM
At least you can make progress...
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 08, 2011, 11:55:30 PM
Post by: Beau on March 08, 2011, 11:55:30 PM
Yeah.....took me 4 months to drop my HO in. I move fast, real fast, lol.
Title: My Sport
Post by: RunninWild on March 09, 2011, 01:31:07 PM
Post by: RunninWild on March 09, 2011, 01:31:07 PM
I meant at least you have the car in your possession and are able to work on it in your own free time. Once school is all done for me, I hope to get the ball rolling. Of course, I'll need a real job, house, etc before that time comes...but that's why I'm on this site. Pick up tips and other knowledge so that once I'm in the position to rip my beast apart, I'll be able to get moving.
Sorry for the thread hijack...
Sorry for the thread hijack...
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 09, 2011, 04:12:44 PM
Post by: Beau on March 09, 2011, 04:12:44 PM
hey, no problem...I didn't mean for it to sound all bragging and stuff...it's been a long time since I've had the money and time AND motivation to do anything...having all three at the same time is like an eclipse lol.
Just don't give up, patience is also a good thing to have, of which i'm cursed with little to none of.
It's taken me 5 years to just have an HO powered Bird...grass grows faster than I accomplish anything lol, and usually not by choice.
It will all fall into place...just hopefully before I have (more) gray hairs...
Just don't give up, patience is also a good thing to have, of which i'm cursed with little to none of.
It's taken me 5 years to just have an HO powered Bird...grass grows faster than I accomplish anything lol, and usually not by choice.
It will all fall into place...just hopefully before I have (more) gray hairs...
Title: My Sport
Post by: 88turbo on March 09, 2011, 09:15:31 PM
Post by: 88turbo on March 09, 2011, 09:15:31 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;354940
hey, no problem...I didn't mean for it to sound all bragging and stuff...it's been a long time since I've had the money and time AND motivation to do anything...having all three at the same time is like an eclipse lol.
Just don't give up, patience is also a good thing to have, of which i'm cursed with little to none of.
It's taken me 5 years to just have an HO powered Bird...grass grows faster than I accomplish anything lol, and usually not by choice.
It will all fall into place...just hopefully before I have (more) gray hairs...
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 12, 2011, 06:12:49 PM
Post by: Beau on March 12, 2011, 06:12:49 PM
Both control arms are on, going to bolt the spindles on in a few, and mount the steering rack back on. Can't get too far as I have to get a spring compressor, as well as some new lug studs and calipers.
But by god it's gettin' there. Pics in a bit.
But by god it's gettin' there. Pics in a bit.
Title: My Sport
Post by: 88turbo on March 12, 2011, 06:30:34 PM
Post by: 88turbo on March 12, 2011, 06:30:34 PM
skip the spring compressor and use a floor jack, much easier but take your time and be careful
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 12, 2011, 11:24:03 PM
Post by: Beau on March 12, 2011, 11:24:03 PM
how do I do it that way? Not sure the car will be heavy enough to "hold it down" as the engine is out... lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: 88turbo on March 13, 2011, 01:43:50 PM
Post by: 88turbo on March 13, 2011, 01:43:50 PM
! I forgot where your engine is sitting... I mean mounted! disregard my previous post.... lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 13, 2011, 06:26:21 PM
Post by: Beau on March 13, 2011, 06:26:21 PM
you'll have to give me a rundown on how to mash the spring in there with a jack lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: 88turbo on March 15, 2011, 10:39:40 AM
Post by: 88turbo on March 15, 2011, 10:39:40 AM
jack under the control arm and lift slowly :)
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on March 15, 2011, 04:28:11 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on March 15, 2011, 04:28:11 PM
Without an engine, the car will probably lift right up. Do you have access to a spring compressor?
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 16, 2011, 02:41:10 AM
Post by: Beau on March 16, 2011, 02:41:10 AM
Yeah...it'll probably be this weekend before I have time to work on it again...if even then. We have new carpet getting put in the first of next week, so things will be nuts for a day or so...was hoping to get the T5 worked on a bit before I put the engine back in...but the way things are, I'm gonna need a backup vehicle with room for 2 carseats...all we have right now are 2 trucks, and that sucks ass when we all need to go to town together lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: flylear45 on March 16, 2011, 07:12:54 AM
Post by: flylear45 on March 16, 2011, 07:12:54 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;354858
New ball joints in, depending on the wife's work schedule and how early I need to get up with the kids, I may try to get one side put together tonight after work. Not a huge rush though, have to wait till payday for a new pair of front calipers...if I had bigger wheels, I'd just get the cobra stuff and only have to do it once, but the 5 lug wheels I have are only 16" so it'll be stock (Mustang) brakes for now.
I have to research a bit and see if I'm going to need new bakes hoses for the SN95 calipers...I currently have the 11" TC/Stang 5.0 hoses.
Also have to grab a few lug studs. I may go bolt some stuff up here in a few, stay tuned for a few pics of my snail's progress lol.
How were the ball joints to do? What brand did you use to replace them?
Keep it up, coming along good!
Oh, BTW. The second gear problem sounds serious. You may want to get the box apart now before you trash it. I can't recall the exact nature of the problem, but it sounds familiar. 53 year old memory.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 16, 2011, 01:03:11 PM
Post by: Beau on March 16, 2011, 01:03:11 PM
I just used the cheap O'reillys ones...they had grease zerks, so that was good enough for me for now. I think my second gear issues is a synchro...although it might be a bent bearing retainer.
If I can get a chance, I'll take the trans to a shop in the city...the guy has ads all over Craigslist...apparently he's good at them, and I also have a tip from another guy here on the board about a shop as well.
I never did get the pics, but just imagine some sn95 spindles on fox arms and that's where i'm at lol
If I can get a chance, I'll take the trans to a shop in the city...the guy has ads all over Craigslist...apparently he's good at them, and I also have a tip from another guy here on the board about a shop as well.
I never did get the pics, but just imagine some sn95 spindles on fox arms and that's where i'm at lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
So I have the spring in now, but I'm stuck. I have the inside part of the spring compressor stranded inside the spring. Gonna try to get it out by taking the strut loose from the spindle, and using a jack to lower the control arm enough to finagle the part out...hopefully it works.
A 30 minute job, as always, turns into a 3 day job.
I get this car put back together, I'm probably gonna try to unload it on someone.
A 30 minute job, as always, turns into a 3 day job.
I get this car put back together, I'm probably gonna try to unload it on someone.
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on March 18, 2011, 04:20:07 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on March 18, 2011, 04:20:07 PM
If you just lived closer I'd be right over.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 06:25:55 PM
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 06:25:55 PM
LOL..the fun never ends...unbolted the strut from the spindle to allow the CA to come down enough to work the inner part of the compresser tool through the coils, and of course, with the engine out, I can't jack the arm back up, the whole car just lifts up.
FML...
Not sure if I can somehow get a ratchet strap in there and try to squeeze things down the 3 inches or so it needs to get the holes lined up or not. Have to eat, I'm weak and I think my sugar is low.
Guess if I have to, I'll drop the engine back in tonight...I'd wanted to clean it up really good before I stabbed it back in.
I will NEVER take the front suspension apart again with the engine out, especially if I plan to put it back together again.
FML.FML. ughhh...
One for the ole experience counter, let me tell you.
Of course if I had different springs, such as Machs or Bullits, I probably would be completely done with that side already.
FML...
Not sure if I can somehow get a ratchet strap in there and try to squeeze things down the 3 inches or so it needs to get the holes lined up or not. Have to eat, I'm weak and I think my sugar is low.
Guess if I have to, I'll drop the engine back in tonight...I'd wanted to clean it up really good before I stabbed it back in.
I will NEVER take the front suspension apart again with the engine out, especially if I plan to put it back together again.
FML.FML. ughhh...
One for the ole experience counter, let me tell you.
Of course if I had different springs, such as Machs or Bullits, I probably would be completely done with that side already.
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on March 18, 2011, 08:39:18 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on March 18, 2011, 08:39:18 PM
I should've grabbed the springs from that Stang for you.. They would've lowered your car about 1.5 to 2 inches. They did great for me Sport. I sued them on all 4 corners. Got about a 2 inch drop all around. Sweet. The ride is awesome, and it was a simple remove and replace deal.
Title: My Sport
Post by: 88turbo on March 18, 2011, 09:02:14 PM
Post by: 88turbo on March 18, 2011, 09:02:14 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;355711
So I have the spring in now, but I'm stuck. I have the inside part of the spring compressor stranded inside the spring. Gonna try to get it out by taking the strut loose from the spindle, and using a jack to lower the control arm enough to finagle the part out...hopefully it works.
A 30 minute job, as always, turns into a 3 day job.
I get this car put back together, I'm probably gonna try to unload it on someone.
do I hear a trade? heheheheh
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 09:18:16 PM
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 09:18:16 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;355765
I should've grabbed the springs from that Stang for you..They would've lowered your car about 1.5 to 2 inches. They did great for me Sport. I sued them on all 4 corners. Got about a 2 inch drop all around. Sweet. The ride is awesome, and it was a simple remove and replace deal.
Yeah..I didn't think about the springs...hmmm. If you have plans to go back really soon....although I don't wanna have to sue anyone for them lmao
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 09:19:19 PM
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 09:19:19 PM
Quote from: 88turbo;355771
do I hear a trade? heheheheh
I'm starting to think this f*ckin' car has a curse...know any good witch doctors? lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 09:26:47 PM
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 09:26:47 PM
So here's where it sits...errr, where it SHOULD be sitting, as it were:
The spring squeezer is out, and obviously the strut is not bolted to the spindle. Here in a few I'm gonna go at it again, with a ratchet strap to see if I can get that 1.5" or so to get the bolts through.
This may seem very trivial to most, but it's fairly hectic for me....it's not that I lack mechanical aptitude, I just tore pretty much the whole car apart, when I should've stayed focused on one thing at a time. The biggest prolem I have now is the lack of the engine weight on the spring to give me what I need.
Anybody that may read this, having never torn into a project, be advised take one step at a time and avoid the backstepping, side stepping and utter wastes of time I've dealt with on and in this car. Keep to one thing at a time, and don't over reach your limits.
Remember also, that this isn't a daily driver for me....it's not like I need it for work on Monday..
The spring squeezer is out, and obviously the strut is not bolted to the spindle. Here in a few I'm gonna go at it again, with a ratchet strap to see if I can get that 1.5" or so to get the bolts through.
This may seem very trivial to most, but it's fairly hectic for me....it's not that I lack mechanical aptitude, I just tore pretty much the whole car apart, when I should've stayed focused on one thing at a time. The biggest prolem I have now is the lack of the engine weight on the spring to give me what I need.
Anybody that may read this, having never torn into a project, be advised take one step at a time and avoid the backstepping, side stepping and utter wastes of time I've dealt with on and in this car. Keep to one thing at a time, and don't over reach your limits.
Remember also, that this isn't a daily driver for me....it's not like I need it for work on Monday..
Title: My Sport
Post by: 88turbo on March 18, 2011, 09:55:42 PM
Post by: 88turbo on March 18, 2011, 09:55:42 PM
was shocking walking into your shop and seeing the car in pieces seems like everytime I come up the engine is out of the car for some reason or another!! lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 10:59:27 PM
Post by: Beau on March 18, 2011, 10:59:27 PM
I could probably get the engine in before you could get here...road trip? lol
Next time, I'll give you a ride in it lol
EDIT: springs in, struts bolted in, spindles are on, ready for the rack, and new tie rod ends. Then calipers and new pads. Then the rear needs to be brought up to 5 lug....i still need the rotors, calipers and backing plates and hardware for all that...already have the axles. Ain't getting impatient and leaving the car stranded on jackstands again, waiting till I have EVERYTHING for the rear 5 lug swap. Maybe tomorrow night I'll try to get some of the interior parts back in, carpet, dash, etc
Next time, I'll give you a ride in it lol
EDIT: springs in, struts bolted in, spindles are on, ready for the rack, and new tie rod ends. Then calipers and new pads. Then the rear needs to be brought up to 5 lug....i still need the rotors, calipers and backing plates and hardware for all that...already have the axles. Ain't getting impatient and leaving the car stranded on jackstands again, waiting till I have EVERYTHING for the rear 5 lug swap. Maybe tomorrow night I'll try to get some of the interior parts back in, carpet, dash, etc
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on March 19, 2011, 06:52:45 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on March 19, 2011, 06:52:45 AM
You should keep the car. Most people who put that much work into a car regret it quick when they get rid of it. It's not cursed, you said yourself, you're not focusing on one thing at a time. Get it finished, enjoy it.
Title: My Sport
Post by: flylear45 on March 19, 2011, 07:22:13 AM
Post by: flylear45 on March 19, 2011, 07:22:13 AM
What Vinnie said. Everyone has these moments. You will have a better frame of mind once you get a little farther along.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 19, 2011, 01:03:08 PM
Post by: Beau on March 19, 2011, 01:03:08 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty happy that I have the bulk of the front end back together...now it's back to the waiting game (for more $) to get new calipers, hoses, and tie rod ends.
There's still so much to put back together that sometimes I get overwhelmed thinking about it. I've done what I can to the front for now, tonight I'll (maybe, I'm pretty exhausted still) do a little interior work to it. If I'm going to have some fun with the car this summer, I need to get focused on it, and stay to task until I finish what I've started, or out of parts/money.
I was just blowin' off steam...I was made a pretty nice offer for it awhile back and didn't have to think very long about it before I told the guy no. :)
There's still so much to put back together that sometimes I get overwhelmed thinking about it. I've done what I can to the front for now, tonight I'll (maybe, I'm pretty exhausted still) do a little interior work to it. If I'm going to have some fun with the car this summer, I need to get focused on it, and stay to task until I finish what I've started, or out of parts/money.
I was just blowin' off steam...I was made a pretty nice offer for it awhile back and didn't have to think very long about it before I told the guy no. :)
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on March 19, 2011, 06:35:43 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on March 19, 2011, 06:35:43 PM
JUST SAY NO !!! Don't let it go. I have been there. When I was assembling the Sport, it took me a long time. One piece at a time. I'd grab a part....wait.....grab a part.....wait. Finally, I'd have everything I need and assembly would begin and last until I ran out of parts, then, start all over again. I went through a period of about 3 months or so I lost all my motivation. I was working on the Sport, and wasn't really seeing much progress. Finally, Gayle said "it's not going to get done by itself". For some odd reason, it really got me going. I decided, every screw I turned, every bolt I tightened, was one step closer to the finished car. Not done yet, but the Sport is still in a much better state now.
Title: My Sport
Post by: 88turbo on March 19, 2011, 09:27:04 PM
Post by: 88turbo on March 19, 2011, 09:27:04 PM
and that is about how I feel about my red TC I'm really friggin close to having it running but cant get the fuel pump to run. came really close to pulling the plug on all of them and going back to the old birds and cougars but something inside me wont let that happen. these cars can be a pita but the more we do on them the more we will appreciate them years from now and once we let go we may not get the chance to get another due to the rate that these are getting sped :(
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 20, 2011, 01:48:47 AM
Post by: Beau on March 20, 2011, 01:48:47 AM
I'll give you a call tomorrow..if I don't, text me and remind me and shiznit...
Title: My Sport
Post by: 88turbo on March 20, 2011, 10:18:14 AM
Post by: 88turbo on March 20, 2011, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;355912
I'll give you a call tomorrow..if I don't, text me and remind me and shiznit...
you talking to me?
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 21, 2011, 01:36:55 AM
Post by: Beau on March 21, 2011, 01:36:55 AM
Score of the day: '96 Stang GT Springs. Free.
Met a guy who was coming in as we were going back to the truck to get tools...he had springs he was gonna throw in for some discounts on other parts...he was wearing a Mustang hat. On a gut feeling, I asked him if those springs he was carrying were out of a 94+ Stang...he said they were. That he was gonna get a little credit for 'em. I asked if he;d sell 'em..he said hell, take 'em...doubted he'd get a lot for 'em anyway. Hell yeah.
So i snagged a MarkVII rotor and caliper...thinking maybe I could make it work on my TC rear, while using a pair of '97 Stang axles. So after some measuring in the shop, and then research on here and CoolCats..have found that I need all the brackets/mounts from the Mark's rear. Also didn't know there was a difference in rotor dia. between the 2.
Anyone need a Mark 7 rotor and caliper...in good shape?
Guess when I have more money and time I could go back and get all that i need from it, in regards to brake parts and needed hardware. (Swapping the Linc rear is not an option).
Figures that as soon as got my TC springs back in, I'd find a set of SN95 springs...what's that about 3 steps backward for every one forward. I KNEW I shoulda waited another day or so lol.
Met a guy who was coming in as we were going back to the truck to get tools...he had springs he was gonna throw in for some discounts on other parts...he was wearing a Mustang hat. On a gut feeling, I asked him if those springs he was carrying were out of a 94+ Stang...he said they were. That he was gonna get a little credit for 'em. I asked if he;d sell 'em..he said hell, take 'em...doubted he'd get a lot for 'em anyway. Hell yeah.
So i snagged a MarkVII rotor and caliper...thinking maybe I could make it work on my TC rear, while using a pair of '97 Stang axles. So after some measuring in the shop, and then research on here and CoolCats..have found that I need all the brackets/mounts from the Mark's rear. Also didn't know there was a difference in rotor dia. between the 2.
Anyone need a Mark 7 rotor and caliper...in good shape?
Guess when I have more money and time I could go back and get all that i need from it, in regards to brake parts and needed hardware. (Swapping the Linc rear is not an option).
Figures that as soon as got my TC springs back in, I'd find a set of SN95 springs...what's that about 3 steps backward for every one forward. I KNEW I shoulda waited another day or so lol.
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on March 21, 2011, 09:09:29 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on March 21, 2011, 09:09:29 AM
A litle patience goes a long way. LOL. Get the engine bay clean, get the engine clean, drop in the engine, swap the springs. It won't take long, and you'll like the mild drop. Don't forget the alignment.
Title: My Sport
Post by: DVP on March 27, 2011, 05:46:04 PM
Post by: DVP on March 27, 2011, 05:46:04 PM
Needs a TC front bumper....
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on July 04, 2011, 04:19:18 PM
Post by: Beau on July 04, 2011, 04:19:18 PM
Well, the junkyard rack that has new inner tie rods is cleaned, installed and bolted tight. Once wifey gets home, I'm gonna go wrench on it a bit more, get the tires on, and eyeball the adjustment for the outer tie rods to get it by till i get it in shape enough to hit the alignment rack. Plans for later are to put the T5 onto the engine, and figure out if I wanna trade some junk for a '90 Stang LX Stang that needs a motor. Don't worry, the Bird is going nowhere...all the blood and sweat it's drained from me has convinced me to keep it. And, I'll be ed, I've even picked up a ac compressor, lines, and condenser for it as well. The 101 degree heat of the previous week has sold me on the AC...
I know it's only a steering rack, but, like The Man says..."one piece at a time"
I'll grab some pics later when I can get back outside...the kids are awake now. Happy 4th people...stay safe and be cool! :)
I know it's only a steering rack, but, like The Man says..."one piece at a time"
I'll grab some pics later when I can get back outside...the kids are awake now. Happy 4th people...stay safe and be cool! :)
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on July 04, 2011, 04:36:48 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 04, 2011, 04:36:48 PM
Pass on the LX...It'll be a distraction and you'll never get either car done. Stick to one thing at a time until you're done. Stangs are everywhere. Instead of trading for a Stang roller, trade for parts you need to finish the Bird.
Good idea grabbing up the a/c stuff. No need to suffer while you're driving. Takes the enjoyment out of it. It's been over a hundred degrees here for the past two weeks, and more of the same all this week. Yes, A/C a good thing.
Good idea grabbing up the a/c stuff. No need to suffer while you're driving. Takes the enjoyment out of it. It's been over a hundred degrees here for the past two weeks, and more of the same all this week. Yes, A/C a good thing.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on July 04, 2011, 04:51:31 PM
Post by: Beau on July 04, 2011, 04:51:31 PM
My only thoughts about the Stang were that I have what it needs to be a daily driver/kid hauler...it's a really clean car, much better than the one my buddy just bought that has the engine issues.
I'd be trading a coupla junk vehicles even for it...has a clean title...he showed it to me last night when I was helping him with his other Stang.
I'd slap my turbines on it..it needs new tires anyway, and possibly throw my TC spindles and 11" brakes on. Other than it, it would stay stock.
He has the AC stuff laying around from other stang's he's built...since I have a complete stang engine...grab and go...he was gonna s it, so a freebie, lol. Even got an AC compressor bracket since a previous owner of my engine cut it off...
I'd be trading a coupla junk vehicles even for it...has a clean title...he showed it to me last night when I was helping him with his other Stang.
I'd slap my turbines on it..it needs new tires anyway, and possibly throw my TC spindles and 11" brakes on. Other than it, it would stay stock.
He has the AC stuff laying around from other stang's he's built...since I have a complete stang engine...grab and go...he was gonna s it, so a freebie, lol. Even got an AC compressor bracket since a previous owner of my engine cut it off...
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on July 04, 2011, 05:03:54 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 04, 2011, 05:03:54 PM
Well, in that case................................
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on July 04, 2011, 05:18:30 PM
Post by: Beau on July 04, 2011, 05:18:30 PM
I've even thought about the Stang...putting my 5.0/T5 in it...driving it till fall, then flipping it for project money to finish up the Sport...just thoughts though, really. We'll see........
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on July 04, 2011, 07:43:07 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 04, 2011, 07:43:07 PM
That's how the beginning of the end starts.....
If you barely have time to work on the Sport, where do you find time to do a whole other car. You know, as we all do, it's never as easy as "I'll just drop an engine and tranny, then......."...It always turns into a hundred other things. Stick with the Sport. Otherwise, I'll be here in a few months when you're telling how you just won't ever get the Bird finished, and you'll never enjoy it...and etc.... etc...
I've seen it over and over here. Focus !!!!
I mean no offense, but Beau.....look at where your car is now, what you need, what you have left to do.....don't let the Stang jade you. All that glitters isn't gold.
If you barely have time to work on the Sport, where do you find time to do a whole other car. You know, as we all do, it's never as easy as "I'll just drop an engine and tranny, then......."...It always turns into a hundred other things. Stick with the Sport. Otherwise, I'll be here in a few months when you're telling how you just won't ever get the Bird finished, and you'll never enjoy it...and etc.... etc...
I've seen it over and over here. Focus !!!!
I mean no offense, but Beau.....look at where your car is now, what you need, what you have left to do.....don't let the Stang jade you. All that glitters isn't gold.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on July 04, 2011, 10:28:42 PM
Post by: Beau on July 04, 2011, 10:28:42 PM
Vinnie, I've been focused all day lol. Rack in, tie rod ends roughly adjusted, tires/wheels on the front. It's off the jackstands for the first time in probably 4 months or more.
Even put the one back wheel/tire on. It's on all fours, steering shaft in, engine uncovered. Engine is gonna get dropped in later after the kids are in bed and we've shot off a few fireworks here.
I've made more progress today than I have in the last 4 months combined. I'm f'kin fired up!
As for the Stang...it'd be for a daily driver, not a project. We need something with a backseat NOW....that's it close, cheap, and in such decent shape make it hard to just say no to.
It has a 2.3/T5, but the 2.3 needs a timing belt. I'd probably just fix it, drive it, and keep diggin at the Sport till it's all together.
Either way, I'm not draggin' it out anymore...I want to drive my V8 'Bird in a bad bad way.
And no offense taken...I appreciate the the thoughts...rest assured the Stang (if I do get it) won't distract my attention :)
Even put the one back wheel/tire on. It's on all fours, steering shaft in, engine uncovered. Engine is gonna get dropped in later after the kids are in bed and we've shot off a few fireworks here.
I've made more progress today than I have in the last 4 months combined. I'm f'kin fired up!
As for the Stang...it'd be for a daily driver, not a project. We need something with a backseat NOW....that's it close, cheap, and in such decent shape make it hard to just say no to.
It has a 2.3/T5, but the 2.3 needs a timing belt. I'd probably just fix it, drive it, and keep diggin at the Sport till it's all together.
Either way, I'm not draggin' it out anymore...I want to drive my V8 'Bird in a bad bad way.
And no offense taken...I appreciate the the thoughts...rest assured the Stang (if I do get it) won't distract my attention :)
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on July 05, 2011, 02:22:23 AM
Post by: Beau on July 05, 2011, 02:22:23 AM
engine and trans bolted together, almost ready to go in. I was going to drop it in, but after wasting an hour looking for my little chain I ended up using a different chain, also had to dig through a coupla pans of bolts to find some exhaust bolts long enough to go through the links.
Won't be long now...if I can get a couple of free hours tomorrow before work, the engine will be in the car, hopefully.
I'll be pretty satisfied to have it where I can least start it and idle in and out of the shop...that bitch gets hot without any air moving through it...
Won't be long now...if I can get a couple of free hours tomorrow before work, the engine will be in the car, hopefully.
I'll be pretty satisfied to have it where I can least start it and idle in and out of the shop...that bitch gets hot without any air moving through it...
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on July 11, 2011, 04:25:21 AM
Post by: Beau on July 11, 2011, 04:25:21 AM
Had a little help(er):
The engine is now in...had a fight with one of the mount bolts. Several serious cusswords later, I finally got it in. Fuel lines, trans crossmember, upper intake and wire it, and it will start.
Feels good to make a little progress.
More pics tomorrow, if I feel like braving the heat again..
The engine is now in...had a fight with one of the mount bolts. Several serious cusswords later, I finally got it in. Fuel lines, trans crossmember, upper intake and wire it, and it will start.
Feels good to make a little progress.
More pics tomorrow, if I feel like braving the heat again..
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on July 11, 2011, 05:16:42 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 11, 2011, 05:16:42 PM
The heat......the HEAT !!!! At least 105 for the past 5 days. It's been crazy, but I've been it as well. Gotta do what we gotta do to get the work done. Glad to see some real progress being made. It's also inspiring to be able to actually SEE the progress.
Do you have a Ford Racing a/c delete kit?
Beau, who's that ugly guy helping your son with the engine in the pic? LOL.
Do you have a Ford Racing a/c delete kit?
Beau, who's that ugly guy helping your son with the engine in the pic? LOL.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on July 12, 2011, 01:42:58 AM
Post by: Beau on July 12, 2011, 01:42:58 AM
Quote from: vinnietbird;363214
The heat......the HEAT !!!! At least 105 for the past 5 days. It's been crazy, but I've been it as well. Gotta do what we gotta do to get the work done. Glad to see some real progress being made. It's also inspiring to be able to actually SEE the progress.
Do you have a Ford Racing a/c delete kit?
Beau, who's that ugly guy helping your son with the engine in the pic? LOL.
Yeah, I got it from FLSTC on here...it's a genuine Motorsport part...still have the box somewhere lol.
The ugly guy..oh, that's just some weirdo bolting a transmission on in 95 degree heat lol. Hey, it beats standing in the sun, holding a 27 pound chainsaw and cutting wood, lol
I'll take a a pic or two tomorrow of the engine sitting in the car. I need to get under it long enough to put the trans x-member in, in case i (need to) move the 'Bird and the jackstand rocks over and causes a problem...
It's did drop the front of the car down considerably, but no idea how much as I don't have the front clip on yet. Once I get some trans fluid, and coolant, I'll start putting on the clip so I can move it outside under a tree to work on.
It can be 90 outside, but if the sun is shining, the inside of the shed is about 25 degrees higher. I lost 7 pounds between 8 pm and 4 am Sunday night...no joke.
Felt like all night at work tonight because of it.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on July 14, 2011, 12:05:42 PM
Post by: Beau on July 14, 2011, 12:05:42 PM
After a little confusion on the small wire on my (new to the engine) starter, the HO roared to life once again. Determination still pays off.
Before work I'm going to put the radiator in, finish topping off the T5 as I didn't have enough trans fluid, and for some reason, the engine has too much oil in it, so i need to take care of that too. Not sure but I think i added too much last night...was dark and hard to see the dipstick.
Anyway, I'd like to thank Vinnie for keepin on me to work on it...just because it runs now doesn't mean I'll stop working on it though, there's still a lot to do.
Before work I'm going to put the radiator in, finish topping off the T5 as I didn't have enough trans fluid, and for some reason, the engine has too much oil in it, so i need to take care of that too. Not sure but I think i added too much last night...was dark and hard to see the dipstick.
Anyway, I'd like to thank Vinnie for keepin on me to work on it...just because it runs now doesn't mean I'll stop working on it though, there's still a lot to do.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on September 06, 2011, 08:19:44 PM
Post by: Beau on September 06, 2011, 08:19:44 PM
What I've been doing today:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1390256.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1390258.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1390263.jpg)
I still have these seats in the car...third car they've been in.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1390250.jpg)
After I eat, there will be more work done, and I'm waiting on funds to transfer so I can get another dash harness and get that squared away too.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1390256.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1390258.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1390263.jpg)
I still have these seats in the car...third car they've been in.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1390250.jpg)
After I eat, there will be more work done, and I'm waiting on funds to transfer so I can get another dash harness and get that squared away too.
Title: My Sport
Post by: hypostang on September 06, 2011, 08:32:31 PM
Post by: hypostang on September 06, 2011, 08:32:31 PM
I like the bird -less header panel
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on September 06, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
Post by: Beau on September 06, 2011, 08:36:01 PM
it's an Asian no-name part, kind of like certa-fit or whatever...I almost grabbed the one from the TC at the Pick N Pull that I got the hood from.
Still breaks my heart to see that car going to s...wasn't wrecked at all.
Still breaks my heart to see that car going to s...wasn't wrecked at all.
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on September 06, 2011, 08:59:51 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on September 06, 2011, 08:59:51 PM
I have that header panel on the Sport right now as well. Mine is looking for a new home soon. I have a factory panel going on when body work starts. I like the Bird in there. You're doing good, keep up the work Beau....winter is right around the corner.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on September 06, 2011, 11:12:27 PM
Post by: Beau on September 06, 2011, 11:12:27 PM
Yeah...I moved it back into the shop a little bit ago since the Stang is all holed up in it's own little stable...still have no idea what I'm going to do with it....probably crush it for a few bucks. If I do decide to work it over, It'll get a carb 351w and an AOD..I'll have a little fun with it, then sell it.
Thunderbirds are my true love...oh, and I've got an HO short block sitting on my stand...needs a rebuild...it's the winter work. Going to have it bored .030 over, a TFS cam and if I can find a set of iron GT40's, I'll be happy. Obviously I've been scanning for an explorer being parted out...
That will go in the Tbird in the spring...then I intend to do as much body work as I can learn and hopefully have it fit to take in public and not scare women, children, and cattle...lol
Amazing how much better the interior looks after a little (ok a LOT) of cleaning and some assembly. I'm going to call or stop by the small upholstery shop that's in the little town I live just outside of, and see what they'd charge to me revamp my headliner...if they do that stuff. Might also have them do a little work on my driver's seat bolster, as it's got a little wear from getting in and out.
The reason I went ahead with the panels is that when I do get the headliner situation sorted, I can just pop off the a pillar pieces, and the back upper pieces and slip the 'liner in...not too much backtracking in that.
Not much more I can do to the interior until I get the dash harness paid for, and get it installed, and then the dash put in....
Oh and Vinnie...if you come across an '88 5.0 Bird/Cat headlight harness, with good alternator wiring...think you could snag it up for me? I'd really appreciate it :)
Thunderbirds are my true love...oh, and I've got an HO short block sitting on my stand...needs a rebuild...it's the winter work. Going to have it bored .030 over, a TFS cam and if I can find a set of iron GT40's, I'll be happy. Obviously I've been scanning for an explorer being parted out...
That will go in the Tbird in the spring...then I intend to do as much body work as I can learn and hopefully have it fit to take in public and not scare women, children, and cattle...lol
Amazing how much better the interior looks after a little (ok a LOT) of cleaning and some assembly. I'm going to call or stop by the small upholstery shop that's in the little town I live just outside of, and see what they'd charge to me revamp my headliner...if they do that stuff. Might also have them do a little work on my driver's seat bolster, as it's got a little wear from getting in and out.
The reason I went ahead with the panels is that when I do get the headliner situation sorted, I can just pop off the a pillar pieces, and the back upper pieces and slip the 'liner in...not too much backtracking in that.
Not much more I can do to the interior until I get the dash harness paid for, and get it installed, and then the dash put in....
Oh and Vinnie...if you come across an '88 5.0 Bird/Cat headlight harness, with good alternator wiring...think you could snag it up for me? I'd really appreciate it :)
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on September 07, 2011, 09:21:06 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on September 07, 2011, 09:21:06 AM
IF I can find an '88 car I'm grabbing everything. Those were everywhere around here, then literally after one summer....all dried up. I've seen one single Fox Bird at the yard. It had the 3.8 CFI in it. I did get the dash,fuse box, and some small harnesses for the Sport. When I went back to get more, it was gone. Crushed and piled on a flatbed headed for the recycling place. I keep my eyes WIDE open all the time.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on September 23, 2011, 03:59:23 PM
Post by: Beau on September 23, 2011, 03:59:23 PM
Well, after some slow precise wire placement work last night and today, I'm happy to report that my dash is sitting in the car, snugly, in place, all the wires are where they need to be, and everything is bolted down tightly. I even put my shifter boot on, and got squared away. Tomorrow if I can find time, I'll clean the console up and get it in, and try to locate my power driver seat base.
I do have a manual track, but with it, and my seat, my head is about .5" from the ceiling (moonroof car). I don't like that, sam-i-am.
It's so close to being done I can taste it....too bad it's too late in the year to get it inspected, licensed and drive it before the white falls.
I still need some gray door panels...the basic style, NOT the TC panels...I have a set of those....they were a PITA to keep from falling apart. I don't want the fancy stuff, just stuff that works and holds up.
I have an idea for some different valve covers...pics if i can find what I need tonight for them to work.
I do have a manual track, but with it, and my seat, my head is about .5" from the ceiling (moonroof car). I don't like that, sam-i-am.
It's so close to being done I can taste it....too bad it's too late in the year to get it inspected, licensed and drive it before the white falls.
I still need some gray door panels...the basic style, NOT the TC panels...I have a set of those....they were a PITA to keep from falling apart. I don't want the fancy stuff, just stuff that works and holds up.
I have an idea for some different valve covers...pics if i can find what I need tonight for them to work.
Title: My Sport
Post by: The Shredder on September 23, 2011, 04:58:06 PM
Post by: The Shredder on September 23, 2011, 04:58:06 PM
Beau. Do you have pictures of the dash install? Remember the dash harness was from a car with electronic cluster (not full electronic). I'm also interested to see your wiring job. :)
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on September 24, 2011, 02:34:18 AM
Post by: Beau on September 24, 2011, 02:34:18 AM
I'll snag some pics tomorrow when I finish up the connector pin swap for the digi to buttstuffog cluster. I've done it once before on a previous Thunderbird, so it doesn't faze me lol.
I greatly appreciate the harness....a cleaner, easier install than I'd have had with my stock harness :bowdown:...it was a veritable spaghetti noodle mess. ;)
I greatly appreciate the harness....a cleaner, easier install than I'd have had with my stock harness :bowdown:...it was a veritable spaghetti noodle mess. ;)
Title: My Sport
Post by: cougarman on September 24, 2011, 08:16:58 AM
Post by: cougarman on September 24, 2011, 08:16:58 AM
Awesome, might have some door panels for ya let me check. :D
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on September 24, 2011, 12:24:59 PM
Post by: Beau on September 24, 2011, 12:24:59 PM
:bowdown::shakeass:Hell yeah!
Here's the dash installed:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400395.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400396.jpg)
The '90 Stang LX:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400399.jpg)
'86 GT that is being parted by a friend:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400397.jpg)
And last, my daily/offroad warrior/parts hauler/farm truck:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400400.jpg)
I didn't get any pics of the wiring installed..and I do need to snag up a heater cable for it...Ive got the control set in the top location where the EQ was before, not sure what I'll put in the stock location...maybe have my buddy fab me up a plate from aluminum and put 2 or 3 gauges in it....the radio and the sentry are just sitting there to fill the spaces, but the radio is actually hooked up.
I'll post up some pics of my next idea later on if I get a chance to work on them a bit..you can see a bit of it in the first pic. And no, it's not finding a way to make the baby formula cans a functional part :rollin:
Here's the dash installed:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400395.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400396.jpg)
The '90 Stang LX:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400399.jpg)
'86 GT that is being parted by a friend:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400397.jpg)
And last, my daily/offroad warrior/parts hauler/farm truck:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/P1400400.jpg)
I didn't get any pics of the wiring installed..and I do need to snag up a heater cable for it...Ive got the control set in the top location where the EQ was before, not sure what I'll put in the stock location...maybe have my buddy fab me up a plate from aluminum and put 2 or 3 gauges in it....the radio and the sentry are just sitting there to fill the spaces, but the radio is actually hooked up.
I'll post up some pics of my next idea later on if I get a chance to work on them a bit..you can see a bit of it in the first pic. And no, it's not finding a way to make the baby formula cans a functional part :rollin:
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on October 01, 2011, 04:14:47 AM
Post by: Beau on October 01, 2011, 04:14:47 AM
Explorer intake, et cetera:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1400477.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1400478.jpg)
It'll look a little different when I bolt it on to the engine. It'll be sanded, painted, and prettier than the prom queen.
I've got a little repair work to do....one of the studs is broke off in the upper, and I'll need to get a phenolic spacers.
Looks like the Stang might just inherit the HO setup once I swap the Bird to the Exploder/Gt40 stuff....I've even got a spare '88 Bird engine harness...might convert the Yuckstang to an efi 5.0 with that and then flip it...I want something substantial to put under the hood power-wise by warm weather next year...and it (rather, they..as in plural) also requires a fmic....
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1400477.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/P1400478.jpg)
It'll look a little different when I bolt it on to the engine. It'll be sanded, painted, and prettier than the prom queen.
I've got a little repair work to do....one of the studs is broke off in the upper, and I'll need to get a phenolic spacers.
Looks like the Stang might just inherit the HO setup once I swap the Bird to the Exploder/Gt40 stuff....I've even got a spare '88 Bird engine harness...might convert the Yuckstang to an efi 5.0 with that and then flip it...I want something substantial to put under the hood power-wise by warm weather next year...and it (rather, they..as in plural) also requires a fmic....
Title: My Sport
Post by: Shadow on October 01, 2011, 04:32:19 AM
Post by: Shadow on October 01, 2011, 04:32:19 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;368314
I'll post up some pics of my next idea later on if I get a chance to work on them a bit..you can see a bit of it in the first pic. And no, it's not finding a way to make the baby formula cans a functional part :rollin:
must be the screw driver than!!! :giggle:
Title: My Sport
Post by: cougarman on October 01, 2011, 08:22:21 AM
Post by: cougarman on October 01, 2011, 08:22:21 AM
Congrats!!
Title: My Sport
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on October 01, 2011, 09:45:10 AM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on October 01, 2011, 09:45:10 AM
Hey Beau, I have a set of the grey sport door panels you're looking for in my sale ad. I'm not sure what shipping would be.
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on October 01, 2011, 11:05:12 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on October 01, 2011, 11:05:12 AM
I love the Explorer intake. I'll get around to polishing mine one day. Too much going on right now. Glad you got one. Do the mod for the throttle body, and make sure you open the spacer up to match. I had a machine shop do mine . They were MUCH cheaper than buying a 65mm spacer.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on October 01, 2011, 11:24:58 AM
Post by: Beau on October 01, 2011, 11:24:58 AM
Cougarman has me set up on some door panels..thanks though!
And Vinnie..sometime I'll have to talk to ya about the throttle body and spacer stuff a little more in depth...it's one of the few gray areas I have about 5.0 info...as many times as you've swapped intakes and stuff, you're the go-to guy on that lmao
I figure it's going to be a right PITA to get that stud out...it's one of the long ones that the elbow/egr is held to the upper with...at first i thought it was dirt caked in, so i dug into it with a nail...no luck..it's a busted stud. Ahh well, it's nothing that can't be solved.
My buddy Steve showed me this twin turbo kit he's gonna get for his Stang...I'm seriously thinking about it myself. It's on ebay...i'm sure the turbos are probably not the greatest though.
And does anyone know where I could get some of the fine threaded Torx screws that the intake plaques are held on with? I've lost the 2 sets I've had and I'm not sure my local hardware stores would have anything that would work.
I'd say I'm going to do a little work on the Tbird today...it's gorgeous, it's not very warm, and it's sunny, but the wife and I both have day off together and there's a lot to get done outside...so I'm not sure I can tinker on the Sport today.
And Vinnie..sometime I'll have to talk to ya about the throttle body and spacer stuff a little more in depth...it's one of the few gray areas I have about 5.0 info...as many times as you've swapped intakes and stuff, you're the go-to guy on that lmao
I figure it's going to be a right PITA to get that stud out...it's one of the long ones that the elbow/egr is held to the upper with...at first i thought it was dirt caked in, so i dug into it with a nail...no luck..it's a busted stud. Ahh well, it's nothing that can't be solved.
My buddy Steve showed me this twin turbo kit he's gonna get for his Stang...I'm seriously thinking about it myself. It's on ebay...i'm sure the turbos are probably not the greatest though.
And does anyone know where I could get some of the fine threaded Torx screws that the intake plaques are held on with? I've lost the 2 sets I've had and I'm not sure my local hardware stores would have anything that would work.
I'd say I'm going to do a little work on the Tbird today...it's gorgeous, it's not very warm, and it's sunny, but the wife and I both have day off together and there's a lot to get done outside...so I'm not sure I can tinker on the Sport today.
Title: My Sport
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on October 01, 2011, 04:21:52 PM
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on October 01, 2011, 04:21:52 PM
Check Lowes for the screws you need. They have drawers with specialty screws and stuff in them. That's where I got the little studs I used for my fuel door.
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on October 01, 2011, 04:28:33 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on October 01, 2011, 04:28:33 PM
Save the turbo stuff for another time. Get the car done first. Whenever you're ready to do throttle body stuff, let me know. I'll be glad to do all I can to help you out.
As far as the screws for the intake plate. Let me check out in the garage. I'm sure I have a bunch of them. If I can find them I'll send you some. I'll let you know later this evening.
As far as the screws for the intake plate. Let me check out in the garage. I'm sure I have a bunch of them. If I can find them I'll send you some. I'll let you know later this evening.
Title: My Sport
Post by: The Shredder on October 01, 2011, 10:26:10 PM
Post by: The Shredder on October 01, 2011, 10:26:10 PM
Beau, the dash looks fantastic! Did you figure out where all the wires and plugs went?
The heater control looks good at the top.
I think I had the mustang controller in original spot. I'll see if I can find a pic.
The heater control looks good at the top.
I think I had the mustang controller in original spot. I'll see if I can find a pic.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on November 14, 2011, 03:45:42 PM
Post by: Beau on November 14, 2011, 03:45:42 PM
So the dash is out again, harness. Nothing had power once I had it all hooked up. Fusible links good, everything connected as required, etc.
Jon, are you sure that Cougar was an '88...is it possible it's an '87?
Only other thing I can think of if it is indeed an '88 harness is that the higher optioned cars had a different dash harness than the less optioned ones did.
Not sure I want (or can) rehab my stocker, or if I should try to find another one...
But if anybody can with certainty that there's 2 different dash harnesses for '88 cars, depending on options...it may help someone in the future if they're as dumbassed as me for wanting to reduce wiring bulk and tidy stuff up...heh.
Mine had original: EATC, premium sound/EQ, dual power seats, sentry, buttstuffog cluster, power antenna, moonroof, yadda yada...(for comparison's sake)
I'll take a coupla shots tonight of the difference in the connections of where the fuse block gets the power from. (My stock harness has a black connector that loops back to 12v power, while the replacement has a ring terminal that goes on the starter relay, positive side.)
Thanks all.
Jon, are you sure that Cougar was an '88...is it possible it's an '87?
Only other thing I can think of if it is indeed an '88 harness is that the higher optioned cars had a different dash harness than the less optioned ones did.
Not sure I want (or can) rehab my stocker, or if I should try to find another one...
But if anybody can with certainty that there's 2 different dash harnesses for '88 cars, depending on options...it may help someone in the future if they're as dumbassed as me for wanting to reduce wiring bulk and tidy stuff up...heh.
Mine had original: EATC, premium sound/EQ, dual power seats, sentry, buttstuffog cluster, power antenna, moonroof, yadda yada...(for comparison's sake)
I'll take a coupla shots tonight of the difference in the connections of where the fuse block gets the power from. (My stock harness has a black connector that loops back to 12v power, while the replacement has a ring terminal that goes on the starter relay, positive side.)
Thanks all.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on December 31, 2011, 08:11:02 PM
Post by: Beau on December 31, 2011, 08:11:02 PM
Original harness in, car runs...hmmm.
Guess I'll be looking for an '88 parts car soon. Or else mine will be a parts car.
Guess I'll be looking for an '88 parts car soon. Or else mine will be a parts car.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 10, 2012, 07:52:49 PM
Post by: Beau on January 10, 2012, 07:52:49 PM
Well, today I was home from work, and it was nice out, so I got a wild hair up my ass to change out the dash harness once again. Swapped OUT the original, and swapped back in the one I got from The Shredder.
Happy to say that the car still starts and runs...indeed, I even threw the shifter back on took it for a few laps around the field....runs like a raped ape.
Happy to say that the car still starts and runs...indeed, I even threw the shifter back on took it for a few laps around the field....runs like a raped ape.
Title: My Sport
Post by: full auto 67 on January 10, 2012, 10:11:28 PM
Post by: full auto 67 on January 10, 2012, 10:11:28 PM
Great start!
Title: My Sport
Post by: flylear45 on January 11, 2012, 07:37:04 AM
Post by: flylear45 on January 11, 2012, 07:37:04 AM
Good news for sure. Keep on keepin' on!
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 11, 2012, 02:52:29 PM
Post by: Beau on January 11, 2012, 02:52:29 PM
Thanks guys...I've also snagged up a used Edelbrock carb to go on the '90 Stang...I've got another HO shortblock sitting on a stand, plans for it are a Ford 4bbl intake and the aforementioned Edelbrock, and that's about it. It's just gonna be a beater car to beat on. It's got a salvage title so if I F*ck it up...so be it. Not gonna hassle with finding a donor '90 5.0 to pirate all the wiring from to make it efi, since its about a piece anyway.
I do have some TC/5.0 Stang front brakes and a Stang 8.8 with 10" drums to go on it...but I probably won't get too far into it until the Tbird is on the road in March or so. This WILL be the year...no more bullshiznit.
I do have some TC/5.0 Stang front brakes and a Stang 8.8 with 10" drums to go on it...but I probably won't get too far into it until the Tbird is on the road in March or so. This WILL be the year...no more bullshiznit.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Shadow on January 11, 2012, 03:47:58 PM
Post by: Shadow on January 11, 2012, 03:47:58 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;377468
This WILL be the year...no more bullshiznit.
or else.. lol :beatyoass:
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 12, 2012, 02:33:30 AM
Post by: Beau on January 12, 2012, 02:33:30 AM
If I could steadily devote 6 hours or so at once every weekend...I'd have had it to the point I envision it in my mind 2 years ago...sadly, with two kids and both of us working (her near every weekend) free time is in short supply, if it involves doing something outside.
But still, this will be the year...I've got most all the big stuff I need. The rest can wait till it warms up a bit and we get some tax money and time off from work again. :)
But still, this will be the year...I've got most all the big stuff I need. The rest can wait till it warms up a bit and we get some tax money and time off from work again. :)
Title: My Sport
Post by: Shadow on January 12, 2012, 03:52:31 AM
Post by: Shadow on January 12, 2012, 03:52:31 AM
i hear that, to a point.. my business partner has 2 kids and his wife worked 6 days a week when they still lived in jersey.. the only time he was ever able to get away was between the hours of 9pm and 7am.. a lot of long nights just to keep customers happy.. now that he's in DE, he still only sleeps about 2-3 hours a night LOL
so with that, good luck with gathering the time to finish her up, i'm pulling for you.. i know how hard it can be from 2nd hand experience lol
so with that, good luck with gathering the time to finish her up, i'm pulling for you.. i know how hard it can be from 2nd hand experience lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 22, 2012, 12:07:37 PM
Post by: Beau on January 22, 2012, 12:07:37 PM
As kind of a closure to my dash wiring swap nightmare, I was looking through some boxes of parts yesterday, and came across an engine harness that I snagged from an '88 Cougar LS 5.0 a year or so ago.
I got to thinking about the 2 connectors, one gray, one black, so I looked at the respective end of the engine harness, and lo and behold, it only has the one connector. So either (unlikely, but both my dash AND engine harnesses came from a Cougar..) the Tbirds only got the dual-plug harness, or the higher optioned cars had that second plug to route the power instead of the ring terminal to the starter relay.
(The Cat I got the engine harness out of didn't have premium sound, had the manual hvac, and no sentry)
Either way, I'm going to be swapping that harness in when it warms up.
In doing so it will make the only parts original to my car the glass, and the body itself, and the passenger side front control arm. I have literally replaced, switched, or swapped every other part in the car. ...
I got to thinking about the 2 connectors, one gray, one black, so I looked at the respective end of the engine harness, and lo and behold, it only has the one connector. So either (unlikely, but both my dash AND engine harnesses came from a Cougar..) the Tbirds only got the dual-plug harness, or the higher optioned cars had that second plug to route the power instead of the ring terminal to the starter relay.
(The Cat I got the engine harness out of didn't have premium sound, had the manual hvac, and no sentry)
Either way, I'm going to be swapping that harness in when it warms up.
In doing so it will make the only parts original to my car the glass, and the body itself, and the passenger side front control arm. I have literally replaced, switched, or swapped every other part in the car. ...
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on January 22, 2012, 12:43:29 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on January 22, 2012, 12:43:29 PM
Welcome to my world. The only parts of the Sport that actually came with the Sport are the body, and front and rear window. That is all. Everything else has been swapped.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on February 29, 2012, 04:21:05 AM
Post by: Beau on February 29, 2012, 04:21:05 AM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;377468
This WILL be the year...no more bullshiznit.
Ever have one of those moments when you wish that ole Doc Brown really had invented a time machine built into a DeLorean?
In other words...the Sport won't be driven (legally) this year...
I'm going to go back to square one. Reinstall the lo-po 5.0, convert back to AOD....NOT.:rollin:
Nahh, but I am planning on completely dismantling the car, sand, paint, rust proof/repair everything I can...no sense in doing it twice, they say. (The 3 or 4 times I've already done a lot of this notwithstanding.)
I'm going to try to get the Stang mobile with HO power, and using the TC spindles and 11" brakes for at least the basics of V8 stop 'n go.
How far we get will have to be seen though.I've still got couple of small harnesses to get first. And I need to pull the 2.3 and do some cleaning to both the bay, and as well find a place to put the Bird so I can work on it. Mother in law has a nice 2 car garage, but not sure she'd want a shell of a car in there for a couple of months while I strip it, clean, paint and haul all the small stuff back home. If I just had a concrete floor :mad:
It seems like I'm getting my priorities backwards, but if I really cared about the Stang as much as I did the Bird, it'd be getting cleaned and everything rebuilt/replaced too.
And my stanger buddy Steve and I are looking to lease/rent/buy a shop somewhere...so hopefully we can work something out where we'll both have plenty of room to work on our projects..as well as maybe a weekend or part time job to do brakes, oil changes...not that I really want to get into other people's car repair/maintenance again..
But I suppose I could put up with it for my share, to pay my part of the building, etc. I need to do something for a backup or second job, to fund the next few steps of my plan(s) for both cars.
I'm tempted to go snag up some sets of GT40 intakes for resell. Any takers?
Title: My Sport
Post by: cougarman on February 29, 2012, 08:45:15 AM
Post by: cougarman on February 29, 2012, 08:45:15 AM
Already have a Gt40 intake, sure could use those TC interior parts though that we traded for.....lol. :)
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on February 29, 2012, 12:19:18 PM
Post by: Beau on February 29, 2012, 12:19:18 PM
Quote from: cougarman;382467
Already have a Gt40 intake, sure could use those TC interior parts though that we traded for.....lol. :)
I know..I'm an asshole for forstill not getting them out...I have tomorrow and Friday off, so I'll get it headed your way, barring any more twisters...
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on March 03, 2012, 10:11:56 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on March 03, 2012, 10:11:56 AM
The Explorer intakes with internal EGR are the ones most people want. Get them, clean them up really nice, maybe even paint them, and sell them on Ebay.
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on March 03, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on March 03, 2012, 10:14:37 AM
Beau, surely you can get that Bird in shape this year. I did my Sport from ground up, and it's my daily driver. C'mon, get busy. I even have to repaint and seats recovered this year.....and window tint.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 03, 2012, 12:08:32 PM
Post by: Beau on March 03, 2012, 12:08:32 PM
I could, and I know this sounds like a cop out, but between money and time, it's hard to hurry, and do things right and safely. Kids, jobs...blah blah..I know, a lot of us are in the same boat...
For starters, my plan is to take off all the suspension parts, k member, etc, blast and paint those, and the underside, along with a dose of rust preventative...then get the bottom side back together.
I don't want to drive it while it's rusting away under me. Meanwhile, I can slap my HO engine in the stang, cause it's got a few dents, a little rust under it, and drive it till it's junk, sell the electronics from it, and then my Bird will be have the bottom side taken care of. Other than that, I've just got to find a Mark 7 rear, and I have pretty much all the major mechanicals.
For starters, my plan is to take off all the suspension parts, k member, etc, blast and paint those, and the underside, along with a dose of rust preventative...then get the bottom side back together.
I don't want to drive it while it's rusting away under me. Meanwhile, I can slap my HO engine in the stang, cause it's got a few dents, a little rust under it, and drive it till it's junk, sell the electronics from it, and then my Bird will be have the bottom side taken care of. Other than that, I've just got to find a Mark 7 rear, and I have pretty much all the major mechanicals.
Title: My Sport
Post by: vinnietbird on March 03, 2012, 02:54:37 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on March 03, 2012, 02:54:37 PM
Why don't you just get a rear from an SN-95 Stang? Probably easier to find than a Mark VII these days. Does the Stang run as it is? If so, leave it the way it is. It costs to do engine swaps into anything. Something ALWAYS comes up, and the money you could save could be used for the Bird.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 12, 2012, 02:15:22 AM
Post by: Beau on March 12, 2012, 02:15:22 AM
Every rear I've found in an SN95 has been gutted...I'd take the rear, but want the extra 1.5" the Mark rear has, and vented rotors...
The Stang's 2.3 has serious issues, timing is off, or a cam lobe is wiped. Have nearly everything except mass air bits an A9L, and fuel lines. There's almost always a fox Stang in the yard in Kansas City...I can get the lines easy enough.
Earlier today I started tearing down the 5.0 that I bought from my buddy...he had a '92 Stang with a Cobra intake that he bought, but it didn't run right, and wouldn't idle. He timed it, I timed it, we pulled some codes, but nothing seemed to indicate any problems.
Later he pulled it and replaced it with an '89 block and heads and an HO intake and related parts and sold it, and I bought the rough-running 5.0 for 50 bucks, sans the Cobra intake.
I moved the engine over under my lights today, was just going to pull some ancillary stuff off so I could clean it, when I noticed this:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/143_0004.jpg)
That's the intake port left, and water passage on the right.
I checked the other head, and sure as there's shiznit in a cat's guts, it had corrosion too. !
I decided to pull the heads off, and surely as hell, am small amount of water and rust in cylinders 2 and 6. Double .
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/143_0005.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/143_0006.jpg)
On the bright side, there's very little ring ridge and crosshatching is still visible in all cyls.
The E7 heads aren't going back on...but now I'm worried...the head gaskets didn't have any appearance of being shot, and I'm hoping the block isn't cracked. Be awhile before I can afford to have it checked for cracks...IF I can find a place local that can do it.
I have 2 other 5.0 blocks, but not sure if they're roller blocks or not.
If the block is junk, least I'm only out 50 bucks...:hick:
The Stang's 2.3 has serious issues, timing is off, or a cam lobe is wiped. Have nearly everything except mass air bits an A9L, and fuel lines. There's almost always a fox Stang in the yard in Kansas City...I can get the lines easy enough.
Earlier today I started tearing down the 5.0 that I bought from my buddy...he had a '92 Stang with a Cobra intake that he bought, but it didn't run right, and wouldn't idle. He timed it, I timed it, we pulled some codes, but nothing seemed to indicate any problems.
Later he pulled it and replaced it with an '89 block and heads and an HO intake and related parts and sold it, and I bought the rough-running 5.0 for 50 bucks, sans the Cobra intake.
I moved the engine over under my lights today, was just going to pull some ancillary stuff off so I could clean it, when I noticed this:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/143_0004.jpg)
That's the intake port left, and water passage on the right.
I checked the other head, and sure as there's shiznit in a cat's guts, it had corrosion too. !
I decided to pull the heads off, and surely as hell, am small amount of water and rust in cylinders 2 and 6. Double .
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/143_0005.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/143_0006.jpg)
On the bright side, there's very little ring ridge and crosshatching is still visible in all cyls.
The E7 heads aren't going back on...but now I'm worried...the head gaskets didn't have any appearance of being shot, and I'm hoping the block isn't cracked. Be awhile before I can afford to have it checked for cracks...IF I can find a place local that can do it.
I have 2 other 5.0 blocks, but not sure if they're roller blocks or not.
If the block is junk, least I'm only out 50 bucks...:hick:
Title: My Sport
Post by: cougarman on March 12, 2012, 04:14:23 AM
Post by: cougarman on March 12, 2012, 04:14:23 AM
Could have been an intake gasket leaking, they will if not installed properly.
Title: My Sport
Post by: 88turbo on March 12, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
Post by: 88turbo on March 12, 2012, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: cougarman;383706
Could have been an intake gasket leaking, they will if not installed properly.
Beau only has trouble with water pumps! lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: cougarman on March 12, 2012, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: cougarman on March 12, 2012, 10:03:00 AM
lol. ;)
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 12, 2012, 12:31:01 PM
Post by: Beau on March 12, 2012, 12:31:01 PM
Yeah, I also snapped off one of the long water pump bolts in the thing...no biggie though, it's going to need to go the machine shop.
Hopefully my water pump issues will be a thing of the past...in any case, I paid extra for the lifetime warranty on the caprice w/p...so WHEN it goes bad again, those f*ckheads will give me another one.
Hopefully my water pump issues will be a thing of the past...in any case, I paid extra for the lifetime warranty on the caprice w/p...so WHEN it goes bad again, those f*ckheads will give me another one.
Title: My Sport
Post by: 88turbo on March 12, 2012, 02:12:18 PM
Post by: 88turbo on March 12, 2012, 02:12:18 PM
Sorry I'm not near by this time to save the day!! Lmfao!!
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on March 13, 2012, 02:29:03 AM
Post by: Beau on March 13, 2012, 02:29:03 AM
I took off a couple extra things to make a little more room...went in easy..too easy. I triple checked my work to make sure I didn't forget something. Didn't even have any bolts left over...lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: Shadow on March 13, 2012, 02:43:24 AM
Post by: Shadow on March 13, 2012, 02:43:24 AM
:wtf: no leftover bolts? something's wrong lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on April 08, 2012, 05:02:49 PM
Post by: Beau on April 08, 2012, 05:02:49 PM
^LOL.
I've been tinkering on the Sport today, interior stuff. Door panels I traded Cougarman for are on, and they look good. Hopefully he's as happy with his as I am with these. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
The transmission lost 3rd gear in the blue Chevy...it's a 700R4. Not sure what I'll do immediately with it.
The Caprice is going to be put on the road Tuesday, and then the Sport. All it needs is an x pipe, the remainder of the exhaust, and the rear brakes/5 lug. All I need parts wise are calipers, dust shields, and hardware.
Pics later...going to go back in a bit and get the console and the center stack stuff installed, then clean it out again.
I'm stoked, read to drive it. shagin' Aye! :D
I've been tinkering on the Sport today, interior stuff. Door panels I traded Cougarman for are on, and they look good. Hopefully he's as happy with his as I am with these. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
The transmission lost 3rd gear in the blue Chevy...it's a 700R4. Not sure what I'll do immediately with it.
The Caprice is going to be put on the road Tuesday, and then the Sport. All it needs is an x pipe, the remainder of the exhaust, and the rear brakes/5 lug. All I need parts wise are calipers, dust shields, and hardware.
Pics later...going to go back in a bit and get the console and the center stack stuff installed, then clean it out again.
I'm stoked, read to drive it. shagin' Aye! :D
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on April 11, 2012, 01:11:17 PM
Post by: Beau on April 11, 2012, 01:11:17 PM
Ordered a BBK X pipe...should be here by the end of the week, or Monday. Now I've got to decide on the rest of the system.
Ideas?
I want something that is throaty, but doesn't sound like a Cup car at higher revs. I have an HO cam so I know it won't be too terribly throaty, I just don't something screaming loud.
Ideas?
I want something that is throaty, but doesn't sound like a Cup car at higher revs. I have an HO cam so I know it won't be too terribly throaty, I just don't something screaming loud.
Title: My Sport
Post by: cougarman on April 11, 2012, 01:29:19 PM
Post by: cougarman on April 11, 2012, 01:29:19 PM
I have just one word..... Magnaflow. :bowdown:
Title: My Sport
Post by: Clayton on April 11, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
Post by: Clayton on April 11, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
My mac lers sound nice with or without tailpipes. its very quiet with the stinger tails. until you rap on it a few times.
Title: My Sport
Post by: cougrrr302 on April 11, 2012, 08:53:39 PM
Post by: cougrrr302 on April 11, 2012, 08:53:39 PM
x a million on Magnaflow!!! Herb has the Oval(chambered looking) Magnaflows, I have Magnapacks on my Cougar. They are quiet until you really get on it, I'm running an Off-road BBK X-Pipe and it's too quiet for me. I just put a 14" Magnaflow Oval casing ler on my Hemi Ram and it sounds soooooo shagy!! I love my Magnaflow on both vehicles haha.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on April 13, 2012, 01:50:32 PM
Post by: Beau on April 13, 2012, 01:50:32 PM
Some goodies, just off the Big Brown Truck:
I'd love to have the magnaflow kit, however that's out of my budget right now :(
Think I'm gonna get THIS (http://"http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLO-17116/") flowmaster kit, unless someone here has a reason why I shouldn't..?
This x pipe is literally the third or fourth brand new thing I've bought for the Sport, after my Energy bushings, and a set of new brake pads for the TC setup I had on before. Oh yeah, and some new stainless header bolts I picked up last week. Not counting fluids and filters and gas lol.
I'd love to have the magnaflow kit, however that's out of my budget right now :(
Think I'm gonna get THIS (http://"http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLO-17116/") flowmaster kit, unless someone here has a reason why I shouldn't..?
This x pipe is literally the third or fourth brand new thing I've bought for the Sport, after my Energy bushings, and a set of new brake pads for the TC setup I had on before. Oh yeah, and some new stainless header bolts I picked up last week. Not counting fluids and filters and gas lol.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on April 16, 2012, 03:51:59 PM
Post by: Beau on April 16, 2012, 03:51:59 PM
I installed the x pipe just a few minutes ago.
Came in, cleaned up, and then went back out and started the beast.
Holy...shiznit. This things sounds amazing.
I'm for a short jaunt down to the local gas station to fill her up, when I get back, I'll post a brief idle/rev vid clip.
I love the sound...sitting in the seat, with the idle, it sounds so mean..it almost brought tears to my eyes. Finally..I'm starting to feel justified for this car.
details: BBK o/r 2.5" X pipe. Got a Flowmaster American Thunder cat back system coming in sometime this week (ordered it sat. morning) and man, I AM stoked to get this thing tagged and start enjoying it! :)
Came in, cleaned up, and then went back out and started the beast.
Holy...shiznit. This things sounds amazing.
I'm for a short jaunt down to the local gas station to fill her up, when I get back, I'll post a brief idle/rev vid clip.
I love the sound...sitting in the seat, with the idle, it sounds so mean..it almost brought tears to my eyes. Finally..I'm starting to feel justified for this car.
details: BBK o/r 2.5" X pipe. Got a Flowmaster American Thunder cat back system coming in sometime this week (ordered it sat. morning) and man, I AM stoked to get this thing tagged and start enjoying it! :)
Title: My Sport
Post by: flylear45 on April 17, 2012, 05:40:26 AM
Post by: flylear45 on April 17, 2012, 05:40:26 AM
Sweet!
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on May 18, 2012, 09:42:22 AM
Post by: Beau on May 18, 2012, 09:42:22 AM
Got a question; I've got the T5 in the Sport right now, but...think I want to go back to an AOD. Anyone wanna trade transmissions, pedal assemblies, and shifter console plates with me. My transmission does grind a little going into 2nd. It would like to have a steel retainer, and probably needs new syncros.
I'm also ditching the 5 lug stuff up front, and going back to the TC setup I've got sitting here. Only downside is that the brand new SN95 balljoints I've got in my c/a's will be wasted.
At this point, it's easier to swap back than to track down the shiznit I need for the rear 5 lug. Keep in mind I don't have a way to a salvage yard, and when I do go, all the rear disc stuff is either gone, or else it's shiznit. I can't afford new calipers, or I'd have that done already...
I've gotta get the Sport on the road ASAP. The Caprice is out of action, and I need to get to work on the Chevy truck...head gasket leak and of course the transmission doesn't have the 2 higher gears in it...ughh.
I'm also ditching the 5 lug stuff up front, and going back to the TC setup I've got sitting here. Only downside is that the brand new SN95 balljoints I've got in my c/a's will be wasted.
At this point, it's easier to swap back than to track down the shiznit I need for the rear 5 lug. Keep in mind I don't have a way to a salvage yard, and when I do go, all the rear disc stuff is either gone, or else it's shiznit. I can't afford new calipers, or I'd have that done already...
I've gotta get the Sport on the road ASAP. The Caprice is out of action, and I need to get to work on the Chevy truck...head gasket leak and of course the transmission doesn't have the 2 higher gears in it...ughh.
Title: My Sport
Post by: jonwayne1988 on May 18, 2012, 11:15:02 AM
Post by: jonwayne1988 on May 18, 2012, 11:15:02 AM
Your not far from me I have a rebuilt AOD out of a 92 5.0 Tbird sport for sell. What part of Missouri are you? I live in KCK
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on May 18, 2012, 11:39:53 AM
Post by: Beau on May 18, 2012, 11:39:53 AM
I'm about 100 miles north-northeast of KC...
Title: My Sport
Post by: jonwayne1988 on May 18, 2012, 12:06:11 PM
Post by: jonwayne1988 on May 18, 2012, 12:06:11 PM
Well I have this transmission here If your interested. Let me know.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on January 21, 2013, 09:05:42 PM
Post by: Beau on January 21, 2013, 09:05:42 PM
I won't say this will be the year my Sport hits the road...
I won't say I'll even have it drivable this year...
But I will sure try, and have already been doing some substantial work to it.
I am on the hunt for a dash harness from an '88 buttstuffog cluster car with all options. The stock one is hacked up beyond repair, and the replacement I got from The Shredder, I messed up swapping some wires, and now I'm afraid to use it further.
I am also looking to either get another 5.0 T5 or have mine rebuilt. Same with the rear, the trac loc is worn out.
I'll have to post pics Wednesday, but it's sitting on 17" Bullitts with Nitto 555 rubber, 245/45 fronts, 275/40 rear. I've also got another little goody that will just have to wait until the dash is in before I mention it..Vinnie knows what it it though..lol
To say I've gotten some new motivation is an understatement, but as I said, it may or may not be this year, and I'm going to do what i can, when i feel like it. No burning myself out again. Just like model cars, if i sit it front of one for longer than an hour or so, it begins to be a job and less a hobby.
As far as the Bullitt wheels, they're not mine. My buddy is storing them over here as his basp00get has a leak, and he needed to get'em out. I put them on my car to see how they look, and I love it. I texted him a pic and asked what he wanted. He told me, AND said I could make it in a few payments. Since I'm making decent money now, this isn't a problem, but what cash I had saved is now gone, so anything major is on hold for about a month. No biggie, it's nothing new. If I put the vert on hold, it's HO will come out, get the P heads I have, and I'll need to snag another set of Explorer upper/lower intakes, possibly 2, even 3. Those extra sets will fund some small future mods I've got planned. The Sport's 5.0 smokes at startup, and has a slight tick, and it's got some miles on it. The stang only has 53K. I'm NOT parting the Stang, just borrowing it's engine. But that will come after I get the rear brake guts in place, the dash and harness issue sorted once and for all, and a couple other small things. No more multi-front assaults, one thing at a time, and bust ass till it's done, or I fall asleep. The end. lol
I won't say I'll even have it drivable this year...
But I will sure try, and have already been doing some substantial work to it.
I am on the hunt for a dash harness from an '88 buttstuffog cluster car with all options. The stock one is hacked up beyond repair, and the replacement I got from The Shredder, I messed up swapping some wires, and now I'm afraid to use it further.
I am also looking to either get another 5.0 T5 or have mine rebuilt. Same with the rear, the trac loc is worn out.
I'll have to post pics Wednesday, but it's sitting on 17" Bullitts with Nitto 555 rubber, 245/45 fronts, 275/40 rear. I've also got another little goody that will just have to wait until the dash is in before I mention it..Vinnie knows what it it though..lol
To say I've gotten some new motivation is an understatement, but as I said, it may or may not be this year, and I'm going to do what i can, when i feel like it. No burning myself out again. Just like model cars, if i sit it front of one for longer than an hour or so, it begins to be a job and less a hobby.
As far as the Bullitt wheels, they're not mine. My buddy is storing them over here as his basp00get has a leak, and he needed to get'em out. I put them on my car to see how they look, and I love it. I texted him a pic and asked what he wanted. He told me, AND said I could make it in a few payments. Since I'm making decent money now, this isn't a problem, but what cash I had saved is now gone, so anything major is on hold for about a month. No biggie, it's nothing new. If I put the vert on hold, it's HO will come out, get the P heads I have, and I'll need to snag another set of Explorer upper/lower intakes, possibly 2, even 3. Those extra sets will fund some small future mods I've got planned. The Sport's 5.0 smokes at startup, and has a slight tick, and it's got some miles on it. The stang only has 53K. I'm NOT parting the Stang, just borrowing it's engine. But that will come after I get the rear brake guts in place, the dash and harness issue sorted once and for all, and a couple other small things. No more multi-front assaults, one thing at a time, and bust ass till it's done, or I fall asleep. The end. lol
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on November 09, 2013, 04:10:14 PM
Post by: Beau on November 09, 2013, 04:10:14 PM
Not much has changed. The Bird is still here, and still needs work, and a windshield.
My time is pretty limited though, about one, sometimes 2 days a week is all I have.
It just seems that the more I try, the more problems crop up. I've got a rear-end issue with the Mountaineer, as soon as I get that sorted out I'll get the Tbird's dash harness and dash installed and put it away for the winter, and work on getting the coupe in a mobile state, so come spring I can make room for the Tbird once again to put the new engine and transmission in.
My time is pretty limited though, about one, sometimes 2 days a week is all I have.
It just seems that the more I try, the more problems crop up. I've got a rear-end issue with the Mountaineer, as soon as I get that sorted out I'll get the Tbird's dash harness and dash installed and put it away for the winter, and work on getting the coupe in a mobile state, so come spring I can make room for the Tbird once again to put the new engine and transmission in.
Title: My Sport
Post by: Beau on April 28, 2014, 07:25:20 PM
Post by: Beau on April 28, 2014, 07:25:20 PM
The end...
RIP. We had fun, sometimes...
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/IMG_8643_zps97ff88ef.jpg) (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/fordtruckfreeek/media/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/IMG_8643_zps97ff88ef.jpg.html)
RIP. We had fun, sometimes...
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/fordtruckfreeek/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/IMG_8643_zps97ff88ef.jpg) (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/fordtruckfreeek/media/vehicle%20pics/1988%20Sport/IMG_8643_zps97ff88ef.jpg.html)