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Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on December 02, 2010, 08:36:01 PM
After decades of working in tight spaces, my garage addition is in progress. Here are a few shots of what I've had all these years. It is a pre 1925 two car 1 1/2 story garage with carriage doors. I live in a historic district, so the doors, windows and primary structure were required to remain intact. It's dimensions are 20' wide, 18' deep (keep in mind the T-Bird is about 17'). It has been enough room to work on one car or store two.
The plan is to put a 12'X20' addition and make the loft accessable and strong enough to hold a few engines.
I had the carriage doors brought back to life last year (still missing a window munton on one door...). It was pretty amazing to have them close and be able to lock the building.
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 02, 2010, 08:49:42 PM
Here are a few shots of the inside. What's not visible in the pics is how bad the floor was.
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 02, 2010, 09:03:17 PM
Here is where it stands today. The floor will be poured tomorrow. If you look off to the right of the middle photo, you can see where the sill plate was replaced and an 8" block was added to get it off the ground.
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on December 02, 2010, 09:53:08 PM
nice little addition so far.. you going to be doing away with the up-right center beams all together or going to put them back in after the new floor is poured?
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 02, 2010, 10:27:30 PM
Thanks!
The floor will be free of any posts or beams. No more fighting to get around stuff. The right bay will have an 8'X3'X3" deep recess for a low rise hoist (so my low riding cars can roll over it). The ceiling in the old part will be dropped from 9' to 8' to give more room in the loft and a Bessler stair ( http://www.bessler.com/70.html ) will go between the two bays (it will take a few 8" I beams to make it work). There will be a 4X4 access in the ceiling with an electric a hoist to lift heavy stuff up. Closed cell foam insulation will seal it up and the walls will be plywood covered. The goal is to make it comfortable in any weather. Tired of either roasting or freezing!
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on December 03, 2010, 06:02:06 PM
i hear that! sounds like it'll turn out pretty nice.. but isn't this the worst time of year to do an addition in MI? lol
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 03, 2010, 09:51:05 PM
Worst time? Naw, next month would be the worst time!
The logistics of getting this project moving has taken an amazing amount of time. I received the initial approval from the Historic District in May. I was surprised to find there is a building boom in our area, locating a crew to start before the weather closed in was challenge.
I had hoped to be working in there this winter. Spring may be more realistic... Hey, I've waited decades, what's a few more months?
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Post by: thewestie on December 03, 2010, 10:00:07 PM
Good luck like to see some more pics as you go.
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Post by: FLSTCI71 on December 03, 2010, 11:57:12 PM
Quote from: thewestie;344257
Good luck like to see some more pics as you go.
+1 Always like seeing garage/shop projects!
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Post by: Scott D on December 04, 2010, 03:58:12 PM
That's a lot more than I've got, Mark, so you're already doing good ...haha
I'll tell y'all what, when it drops from 50 to 46 in 3 hours with a hell of a windchill, it blows.
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 04, 2010, 04:19:24 PM
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That's a lot more than I've got, Mark, so you're already doing good ...haha
I hear ya Scott. I've been fortunate to have structure to work in. Lots of guys don't have that...
Here's a shot of the steel that will be installed next week and the concrete work completed yesterday.
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Post by: gumby on December 04, 2010, 06:07:22 PM
What are the plans to weatherproof the carriage doors?
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on December 04, 2010, 10:35:42 PM
Congrats on the garage improvements. Keep us updated on the progress!
Your garage (before your addition) is about the same size as mine. Its really tough finding the room to store things AND still have room to work on the cars. I have two lawnmowers and two cars in mine and it gets pretty cramped at times (my loft is full of junk from the original owners that I need to throw away).
It always is annoying to me that I have to move one of the cars just to get the lawnmower out. I was spoiled growing up because my Dad has a huge pole barn w/heat,etc.
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 04, 2010, 10:42:41 PM
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What are the plans to weatherproof the carriage doors?
For the glass I'll be getting some 1/4" tinted lexan (the doors face west, which really heats the place up in the afternoon), sealing it with clear silicone.
The doors will be framed with 1" thick strips (ripped down 2X4's) and 1" foam board (http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materials-Insulation-Sheathings/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xi0Zbaxx/R-100320355/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053) to fill in it. Then add 1/4" plywood or hardboard as a cover. It shouldn't add too much weight to the doors and the 1/4" plywood will add additional stiffness and something scuff resistant to the doors.
The new concrete is flush with the driveway, which will allow me to put down a rubber threshold to seal the bottoms of the doors. Then weather strip the door jams and center board. The goal is to keep that west wind out!
It won't be close to the R value in the walls & roof, but I think it's about the best I can do without making them massive (they'll end up to be about 3" thick).
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on December 04, 2010, 10:57:57 PM
so what's with the hole in the floor? looks a little too close to the door to be for a lift lol
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 04, 2010, 11:11:56 PM
Quote from: 50tbrd88;344464
Congrats on the garage improvements. Keep us updated on the progress!
Your garage (before your addition) is about the same size as mine. Its really tough finding the room to store things AND still have room to work on the cars. I have two lawnmowers and two cars in mine and it gets pretty cramped at times (my loft is full of junk from the original owners that I need to throw away).
It always is annoying to me that I have to move one of the cars just to get the lawnmower out. I was spoiled growing up because my Dad has a huge pole barn w/heat,etc.
It's pretty surprising how small an old garage can be. Mine was built for a Model T type vehicle - 12' long and no doors to speak up.
You must have a good system to keep the lawn equipment and the cars in there. I had given up on having any yard equipment in mine. Annoying is a mild word when trying to juggle that stuff around the cars.
I didn't mention what I did with all my stuff from inside the garage. My wife suggested looking into a POD. It was a great suggestion, but to have it on-site was a considerable expense. I looked into the Rubbermaid snap together sheds and purchased a 10X7 for less than the POD rental (I used a boat load of American Express points to buy Home Depot gift cards...). Popped in up in about 3 1/2 hours (it's on my deck for now) and emptied the garage. The best part is: When the garage is done, I can move/hide the shed behind it and have more storage space.
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 05, 2010, 12:05:52 AM
Quote from: turbo_88_XR7;344476
so what's with the hole in the floor? looks a little too close to the door to be for a lift lol
Yep, that's for the lift. The angle of the photo may be decieving. Check the one below.
It is older Rotary cantilevered low rise lift. It moves the car forward 12" at full lift, so there is quite a bit of room behind the car, once it's up. I used to have the T-Birds rear bumper tight to the door, raise the car and the front bumper was tight to the wall! It made it fun to get around the car...
I had the hole shifted forward about 12" from the previous location.
When the recess is finished it will be 3" deep. This will allow pick up pads to pivot freely, but allow drive over clearance (I had to drive up on boards before).
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Post by: thewestie on December 05, 2010, 06:44:32 PM
looks good
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on December 08, 2010, 07:09:54 PM
ahhh.. the pics posted before made it look a lot closer to the door.. looks a lot better now lol
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Post by: Scott D on December 08, 2010, 07:54:14 PM
Quote from: 86T-bird;344485
My wife suggested looking into a POD. It was a great suggestion, but to have it on-site was a considerable expense.
check http://www.truckpaper.com ...I know a couple of folks that've gotten smaller land/sea containers for dirt cheap.
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Post by: jpc647 on December 08, 2010, 08:26:48 PM
You guys mentioned pods, I bought, for my 1972 Olds Cutlass 442, one of the pre fab buildings.
I looked into everything I could find, the units from Lowe's and Home Depot, looked into pods, and even a shipping container and this is what I ultimately came up with. It sits on a 4inch gravel pad, fully assembled on delivery, locking, and seems to be all around great. Don't want to hijack, just sharing what I did.
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Post by: Thunder Bantam on December 08, 2010, 08:45:29 PM
i really like that ! im running out of room with my 20x50 don't even have enough room for my bird lol. Poor thing is sitting under a makeshift pole shed with a tarp roof and sides lol
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 08, 2010, 09:24:17 PM
Quote from: jpc647;345025
You guys mentioned pods, I bought, for my 1972 Olds Cutlass 442, one of the pre fab buildings.
I looked into everything I could find, the units from Lowe's and Home Depot, looked into pods, and even a shipping container and this is what I ultimately came up with. It sits on a 4inch gravel pad, fully assembled on delivery, locking, and seems to be all around great. Don't want to hijack, just sharing what I did.
That is a cool little building!
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Post by: jpc647 on December 09, 2010, 01:30:47 AM
Quote from: 86T-bird;345039
That is a cool little building!
Why thank you. It's actually a 12x 24 building, it just seems smaller in the pics. So its a standard 1 car oversize garage. For the money, I couldn't beat it, and its built very very sturdy.
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Post by: Thunder Bantam on December 09, 2010, 01:35:06 AM
they got a website ? how much ?
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 10, 2010, 08:15:59 PM
I have walls!
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 10, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
And the steel work has started.
Check out the cribbing at the back that will be used to get the monster beam in place.
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Post by: jpc647 on December 10, 2010, 11:41:28 PM
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they got a website ? how much ?
The company I bought it from was http://www.decksplus.com/ Ask for Dan Metzler, he's the owner. He hooked me up with a great deal. If you talk to him tell him John from Westborough with the Black Cutlass referred you, I'm sure he'll remember me. The buildings themselves come from a company in the Springfield mass area, Horizon Structures, but they do not sell directly to the public. They will deliver the building, if you driveway allows it, fully assembled on a super state of the art trailor. With the oversize garage door, the side entry door, and two windows it was a little less than $4,500. But it cost me a couple hundred for the site prep, the gravel and site work cost me $300, I got a deal. So for a garage built like a house, with plenty of room for my 1972 Cutlass(bigger than a bird), with a 30 year warranty, I couldn't complain.
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 18, 2010, 03:36:15 PM
Slow week on the project. Cold weather hashiznit suddenly and hard.
Some interesting shots of how steel beams are raised when there isn't access for a crane.
In the center picture, you can see the new plate bolted to the studs on the side wall for joist hangers. That will be the new height of the ceiling of the garage/floor of the loft. It illustrates the added head room in the loft.
These guys don't use nails. Everything is screwed together. Might not be new, but it's new to me.
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Post by: jpc647 on December 18, 2010, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Thunder Bantam;345028
i really like that ! im running out of room with my 20x50 don't even have enough room for my bird lol. Poor thing is sitting under a makeshift pole shed with a tarp roof and sides lol
What!? You're running out of room in a 20x 50?! How, what do you own a tractor trailor truck?!
86 t-bird: The building is looking nice. I wish I could have built my own,...someday.
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 18, 2010, 05:42:07 PM
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86 t-bird: The building is looking nice. I wish I could have built my own,...someday.
That 12X24 you have is a pretty stout building and a great size for one car, plus at $4,500 its a steal!
It's a great cost effective alternative until you can build your own.
The old line "All good things come in time" springs to mind... Certainly true in my case! Just didn't realize how much time it could take.
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Post by: gumby on December 18, 2010, 05:46:18 PM
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Some interesting shots of how steel beams are raised when there isn't access for a crane.
"Jenga....Jenga!"
Lookin good Mark. I'm jealous!
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 18, 2010, 05:54:38 PM
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"Jenga....Jenga!"
Lookin good Mark. I'm jealous!
That's what I though too!
Thanks Gumby. I think it'll be more interesting in a few weeks as the ceiling and roof joists get in place. It's still difficult to see just what it's supposed to be...
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Post by: HAVI on December 18, 2010, 09:47:21 PM
Nice!!
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Post by: FLSTCI71 on December 19, 2010, 11:43:22 PM
Very cool!! Keep us in the loop, like seeing the updates.
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 24, 2010, 09:51:52 AM
A few shots of this weeks progress.
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 24, 2010, 10:08:17 AM
A few more. These show the 4'X4' access to the loft, the framed opening for the Bessler stair and little perspective of old wall vs new.
The old ceiling can be seen above the framed opening for the stair. It gives a better visual on how much lower the new ceiling will be, adding head room to the loft.
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Post by: daminc on December 24, 2010, 10:34:47 AM
Ooooooo, nice
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Post by: hypostang on December 24, 2010, 12:00:10 PM
Way cool . looking good
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Post by: 5.8fastcat on December 27, 2010, 12:42:03 AM
Looking Good Mark
More garge space is always better
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Post by: Thunder Bantam on December 27, 2010, 04:02:08 AM
Coming along nicely
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Post by: 86T-bird on December 27, 2010, 02:15:01 PM
Quote from: 5.8fastcat;347212
Looking Good Mark
More garage space is always better
Greg, Having seen your set up, I got a chuckle on that one! It seems the hazard of more space is more stuff. I've been warned and I'm still in denial.
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on December 29, 2010, 01:33:32 PM
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It seems the hazard of more space is more stuff. I've been warned and I'm still in denial.
this is too true.. way too true.. give me a 10,000sq/ft building and i'll have it full in a year or 2 :(
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on December 29, 2010, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: 86T-bird;347256
It seems the hazard of more space is more stuff. I've been warned and I'm still in denial.
this is too true.. way too true.. give me a 10,000sq/ft building and i'll have it full in a year or 2 :(
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Post by: 1Bad88tbird on December 30, 2010, 09:19:45 AM
It's comming along nicely! With you being in a historical area I'm sure you have alot of rules and regs. to follow. That would make it tough at times. I'd love to have a nice garage, I started by building a 13'x20' carport with a tarp roof then I tarped the sides. Little by little I've put a roof on it and added wood to the sides and covered it all with roll roofing. It's not pretty but it does the job.
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 06, 2011, 08:56:26 PM
A couple windows are now in place. The cribbing to hold up the I-beams are gone and loft has a floor.
Tomorrow the electrical gets started.
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Post by: ShowBoy on January 06, 2011, 09:00:22 PM
That's going to be a strong building.
Very nice.
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 06, 2011, 09:03:39 PM
A few shots of the loft area.
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 06, 2011, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: ShowBoy;348660
That's going to be a strong building.
Very nice.
Thanks. When its done, it'll be pretty stong. The spay foam insulation and OSB on the walls will really stiffen it up!
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 06, 2011, 09:13:49 PM
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It's comming along nicely! With you being in a historical area I'm sure you have alot of rules and regs. to follow. That would make it tough at times. I'd love to have a nice garage, I started by building a 13'x20' carport with a tarp roof then I tarped the sides. Little by little I've put a roof on it and added wood to the sides and covered it all with roll roofing. It's not pretty but it does the job.
The are certainly advantages to being able to "sneak" things in!
There's a bit of "big brother" with the historic district and the building department...
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Post by: 1Bad88tbird on January 06, 2011, 09:54:08 PM
I'm sure you gotta watch what you do. I have a question about the first pics in post 45. Are those water spots on your lens? Or are those orbs? If they're orbs then you've got alot of company in there!
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 06, 2011, 10:16:15 PM
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I'm sure you gotta watch what you do. I have a question about the first pics in post 45. Are those water spots on your lens? Or are those orbs? If they're orbs then you've got alot of company in there!
There's no spots on the other pictures, so I'd have to go for Orbs!
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Post by: MrBill88Tbird on January 08, 2011, 07:10:24 AM
It's funny you mentioned electrical, I saw the old porcelain in one of the pics. That garage even had electricity back in the day!!!! Looks great!! What are you doing about heat? I built a oil furnace for mine about 12yrs ago from parts we had laying around the shop and use two 5 gal diesel fuel containers so there is no big tank outside. 5 gals is good for 3-4 full working days in the shop. I don't know how I used to do it before... ah youth!!! lol
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 08, 2011, 10:46:10 AM
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It's funny you mentioned electrical, I saw the old porcelain in one of the pics. That garage even had electricity back in the day!!!! Looks great!! What are you doing about heat?
In the context of pre-1925, this garage was state of the art! Room for two cars (few people had one car much less two), a loft and electrical. The electrical was upgraded about 20 years ago, but originally it had two incandescent bulbs operated by a switch with turned (as in "turn on the lights") and one electrical outlet (not two like a common modern receptacle). It was pretty crude.
For heat, I'll be using a vent-less propane heater. These types of units can be a problem with constant use in a "tight" building, due to the moisture they put out. My hope is this won't be an issue due to the building being well insulated, requiring minimal use. If it becomes a problem, I'll develop "plan B".
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Post by: MrBill88Tbird on January 08, 2011, 03:59:22 PM
I have been in the HVAC business all my life. I would truly recommend some type of vented system. Those CO levels are never what the companies claim and the ones I have measured are close to 120 ppm and higher in a 1 hour time span. Not good!!!! Here are several suggestions. This one is very affordable http://www.nuwaystove.com/model4000.php http://www.2kstore.com/gragr/heater/ghtr5.htm http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/prod1;ft1_heaters_accessories-ft1_modine_heaters;8ea678ea.html
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 08, 2011, 05:26:10 PM
Thanks for the heads up and the suggestions. I'll look into the choices.
The vent-less was fine for the way the garage was in the past because there was plenty of ventilation (most of it unintended). The new set up may cause a dangerous situation, due to lack of a fresh air draw and the building being sealed up tight.
Not worth dying for...
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Post by: flylear45 on January 08, 2011, 05:50:33 PM
Garage is looking great. I like how you kept the old look but are making it new again.
I used to use ventless propane, and it was so inefficient it was costing a fortune. My current building has an oil furnace I got for free and I love it. Of course I do burn waste jet fuel in it to keep the cost down, but it still is much better than what I had.
If you watch Craig's list and the Trading Times you can get oil burners pretty cheap if not free. They are really reliable, too. Just maintain them a bit and use a CO monitor. We all should have those anyway.
BTW, after a year of experimenting, I'll tell you a 'secret' I learned.
Ready??
I run my thermostat at 55 degrees all Winter unless I am working out here. The furnace runs for 3-5 minutes out of an hour if I keep it at 55.
If I bump up to 60 it runs almost twice as much. I think it is because of the heat the concrete absorbs and the temperature of the underlying ground, but I am not sure. I have a -ton of insulation in this place, too.
Anyway, love your garage, and hope you are having fun doing it!
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Post by: 1Bad88tbird on January 08, 2011, 10:51:53 PM
Have you thought of a pellet stove? My Dad has one in his 3 car garage and loves it. I think he fills the hopper a couple times a day and it has very little waste.
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 15, 2011, 05:05:38 PM
The siding is going on.
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 15, 2011, 05:12:15 PM
Electrical will done on Monday, plus a shot of the "hatch"
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 15, 2011, 05:16:57 PM
This is the stairway. Next week the rail for the hoist will be installed, electrical will be finished and the insulation will be in.
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Post by: 1Bad88tbird on January 15, 2011, 08:26:43 PM
Looks good! It's really comming along.
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Post by: 86T-bird on January 15, 2011, 08:58:49 PM
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Looks good! It's really comming along.
Thanks! Its starting to look like something.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: FLSTCI71 on January 17, 2011, 11:27:03 PM
You know, if you keep making progress like that, you're going to have to rename this thread. lol. Keep up the good work!!
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on January 18, 2011, 08:43:22 PM
Quote from: FLSTCI71;350024
You know, if you keep making progress like that, you're going to have to rename this thread. lol. Keep up the good work!!
I got a good chuckle out of that!
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: daminc on January 18, 2011, 09:12:34 PM
things are looking great...I should've put a lift in mine when I did my addition
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on January 28, 2011, 07:21:08 PM
Looks like I've crossed the line and have a mini Garagemahal.
It's been a few weeks and progress has been made. An item which slowed things for a few days was some floor grinding to flatten out some humps. That was not an enviable job.
Windows are all in and the spray foam insulation was completed yesterday.
Here's shots of the ground floor.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on January 28, 2011, 07:32:52 PM
The upstairs appears bigger with the light colored insulation.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on January 28, 2011, 07:40:41 PM
The Electric hoist and trolley to get the heavy stuff up there.
It's a pretty simple set up of 2 pieces of 2" angle iron welded together w/1" angle iron brackets. The hoist is a Harbor Freight 440/880 Lb unit. The bracket was modified for the wheels, which are for in-line skates.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: FLSTCI71 on January 28, 2011, 07:42:21 PM
Quote from: 86T-bird;351077
Looks like I've crossed the line and have a mini Garagemahal.
I KNEW it!! :rollin:
Lookin' good!! :bowdown:
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on January 28, 2011, 07:46:14 PM
Yeah... You busted me on it!
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: jrad235 on February 20, 2011, 06:01:39 PM
Looks real sweet man. I may have missed something, but why did you step down the addition's roof? too much work to match it?
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on February 20, 2011, 06:47:58 PM
Thanks! I have some recent updates to post on the progress. It's getting close, but little has been done lately...
Living in a Historic District (or as some say "Hysterical District) has it's drawbacks. One of the interpretations of "Secretary of State's Guidelines for Historic Preservation" is: you may not attach to an existing roof line. Going above the existing roof is really frowned upon, so it had to be stepped down. But hey, I was lucky they didn't require the walls to be stepped in too! My addition is almost invisible from the street, so they let me slide on that one.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: jrad235 on February 20, 2011, 07:21:19 PM
Quote from: 86T-bird;353466
Thanks! I have some recent updates to post on the progress. It's getting close, but little has been done lately...
Living in a Historic District (or as some say "Hysterical District) has it's drawbacks. One of the interpretations of "Secretary of State's Guidelines for Historic Preservation" is: you may not attach to an existing roof line. Going above the existing roof is really frowned upon, so it had to be stepped down. But hey, I was lucky they didn't require the walls to be stepped in too! My addition is almost invisible from the street, so they let me slide on that one.
Whew, that would have really sucked! hey, what's a foot or so of headroom anyway, right? Can't wait for those updates!
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 20, 2011, 09:12:22 PM
I like the idea of putting the electric hoist in the upstairs portion. That should come in very handy! Looking good (I'm jelous).
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on February 21, 2011, 09:29:01 PM
Quote from: 50tbrd88;353484
I like the idea of putting the electric hoist in the upstairs portion. That should come in very handy! Looking good (I'm jelous).
Thanks! I've had a little snag with the hoist: The switch was wired backwards from the factory! Harbor Freight...
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on February 21, 2011, 09:33:07 PM
Plywood and OSB going on the walls.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on February 21, 2011, 09:49:45 PM
Plywood up and primed.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 50tbrd88 on February 21, 2011, 10:31:14 PM
Looks good!
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on February 22, 2011, 04:35:55 PM
It's comming along nicely!
Title: How to repair a bad concrete pour.
Post by: 86T-bird on April 16, 2011, 05:24:35 PM
It's been a couple months since the last update.
A few things have been accomplished since then: The walls have been painted with a statin grey paint, the lighting & electrical is complete and the windows have all been replaced, insulated and trimmed out.
Things from there were snagged while it was decided how best to fix the "rolling" concrete floor. This is one way to do it.
First: A cement saw is used to cut it up in manageable sizes. Then a skid loader comes in with fork lift tines and takes it all away!
Though this was quite a project, the tear out was completed on Wednesday, the prep on Thursday and the new floor on Friday (the finished floor pics will come next week).
This expense was covered by the contractor and he was willing to do what ever I wanted to get it fixed. The only draw back has been the time... The biggest delay were the frost laws in Michigan. These are load restrictions which keep heavy loads off the roads until the frost is out of the ground. This means from February 11 to April 11 nothing could be done.
Title: Starting over
Post by: 86T-bird on April 16, 2011, 05:33:18 PM
Here it is back to bare ground.
Title: Starting again
Post by: 86T-bird on April 16, 2011, 05:40:09 PM
This time I chose the option of adding 2" of foam insulation under the slab, hoping to minimize the cold wicking through the concrete.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: gumby on April 16, 2011, 05:59:09 PM
That sucks! Are they redoing the entire floor, or just the high sections?
nvm, newest pics answered that
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on April 16, 2011, 06:03:32 PM
Here's an exterior shot. The gutters are up and the exterior light fixtures are in place.
Check out the MONDO exterior electical outlet guards at each corner. Those things are not only ugly, but the one by the side door probably has a pretty fininte life. It won't take long before it's broken.
You can pan back to the first post to get a better comparison for the before and after.
As the weather warms, it will get painted.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: rodsterh on April 17, 2011, 05:11:50 PM
Quote from: 86T-bird;358196
Things from there were snagged while it was decided how best to fix the "rolling" concrete floor. This is one way to do it.
First: A cement saw is used to cut it up in manageable sizes. Then a skid loader comes in with fork lift tines and takes it all away!
Though this was quite a project, the tear out was completed on Wednesday, the prep on Thursday and the new floor on Friday (the finished floor pics will come next week).
Wow, that sucks. What exactly was the problem and what caused it??
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on April 17, 2011, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: rodsterh;358266
Wow, that sucks. What exactly was the problem and what caused it??
A combination of things: Cold weather, a "new" chemical to keep it from freezing that made the concrete really stiff, a tight & enclosed space, too few workers (only two) and they didn't do concrete regularly. It's not that they didn't bust their ass to save it, it just got away from them.
I've heard the horror stories of this happening and now witnessed it first hand. Working with someone reputable really helps. Thankfully it's taken care of.
Title: Flooring
Post by: 86T-bird on May 25, 2011, 08:40:52 PM
Here is how the floor turned out.
Title: Cars are home!
Post by: 86T-bird on May 25, 2011, 08:46:01 PM
Just about 6 months late. The cars are home. There is still work to do, getting the place outfitted, but it's 95% complete.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: daminc on May 25, 2011, 08:48:19 PM
Awesome........ I love it
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on May 25, 2011, 08:49:54 PM
Thanks Jerry! I've off the site for a bit, I need to check out what you've been up too.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: hypostang on May 25, 2011, 08:52:30 PM
Love the floor
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: gumby on May 25, 2011, 10:08:46 PM
Bitchin!
What's with the one blue square?
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on May 26, 2011, 12:47:30 AM
Very Nice! I'm sure you're happy to have your cars home.
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 86T-bird on May 26, 2011, 07:37:40 AM
Thanks guys. Looking forward to some thrashing on the car this weekend and next.
Quote from: gumby;360667
Bitchin!
What's with the one blue square?
It's a focal point for coming down the stairs. The loft is great if you are 5' 10" or less...
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: mercury-man on May 26, 2011, 09:53:23 AM
Mark , That's a win win situation with the checked flag floor pattern you have there friend. :headbang:
Dan & Paula
Title: Mini Garagemahal - Update 5/25/11 Check out the Racedeck floor and the cars are home
Post by: 5.0 tbird on May 26, 2011, 02:38:21 PM