General => Lounge => Topic started by: Scott D on September 30, 2010, 07:57:07 PM
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: Scott D on September 30, 2010, 07:57:07 PM
There's a little bit of grease, a little bit of rubbing knuckles on metal, some ranting about the idiot car parts places, and a whole lot of new words for him to mumble when he gets his own car to work on.
Momma's gonna be proud :D
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: hypostang on September 30, 2010, 07:58:20 PM
AWESOME !!!! a new generation
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 30, 2010, 07:58:56 PM
nothing like passing on the passion of getting your hands dirty and using words your mother would slap you for saying :D
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: Scott D on September 30, 2010, 09:32:26 PM
And we got it back together :headbang:
Bad news is I think the shaging headgaskets are about to show their ugly head.
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 30, 2010, 09:35:41 PM
time for more cursing with some added tool throwing :D
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: crystal on September 30, 2010, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: turbo_88_XR7;337375
nothing like passing on the passion of getting your hands dirty and using words your mother would slap you for saying :D
I guess that depends on who your mom is, lmao! Everyone in my house is convinced Dakota's first word is gonna start with an F lol
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 30, 2010, 10:44:13 PM
lmao it's different for you though.. you're sing and busting your knuckles like the rest of us here
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Post by: crystal on September 30, 2010, 10:49:19 PM
Sing, busting, bruising, burning (I love the smell of welding in the am... I have issues, lol). I'm way more of a metalworking person than a mechanic, trust me. Rip it apart and put it back together, diagnose a problem, I'm calling Steve or Bill, lol.
And hey, as many kids as we can corrupt the better. My friend has 3 I plan on putting to work as well and another friend has one on the way ;)
Scott I'm sure your wife appreciates the time you're spending with him even if it's gonna cost her money down the line, lol (we all no parts aren't cheap!)
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: Scott D on September 30, 2010, 11:37:07 PM
Quote from: crystal;337437
Scott I'm sure your wife appreciates the time you're spending with him even if it's gonna cost her money down the line, lol (we all no parts aren't cheap!)
She's digging the working together, just not the language lessons.
This head gasket thing is sort of worrying me, though. I'm getting the mist from the exhaust, coolant loss with not visible leaks, and when I checked the oil (on the first pull of the dip stick) it had a milky tint to it.
All of this has led me to think ...
How hard would it be to go from EFI to carb? There's a lot of computer shiznit on the '97, but maybe, just maybe I can make a carb'd engine work?
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on September 30, 2010, 11:41:55 PM
what motor? going from EFI to carb on a 5.0 just requires intake, carb, HEI distributor and a different fuel pump(unless you want to run a regulator with a return line with your stock pump)
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: crystal on September 30, 2010, 11:49:48 PM
I honestly don't think it would be super easy because of all the electronics (at least as far as the tranny goes but I could be horribly wrong, the newest thing I ever owned was an 88 tc). Now if it was a fox where the transmission is mechanical, piece of cake ;)
Don't mind me, I'm very biased, I way prefer mechanical systems to electrical even though they're usually not quite as precise. But hey, at least if my car takes off like a bat outta hell I know it's the throttle sticking and not the computer getting the wrong electrical pulse via magnetic interference or something stupid like that and therefor thinking you want the pedal to the floor (oh drive by wire how i hate you...)
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: Scott D on October 01, 2010, 04:39:53 AM
Quote from: turbo_88_XR7;337445
what motor?
It'd be a major repower of the 'underbird :evilgrin:
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 01, 2010, 11:28:27 AM
nonono.. i meant what motor is in it or are you planning on a swap?
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Post by: blu84302 on October 01, 2010, 12:50:40 PM
You can reuse your efi harness and dizzy if it's a 5.0L. Just put a carb and intake on it.
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 01, 2010, 06:56:38 PM
Quote from: blu84302;337499
You can reuse your efi harness and dizzy if it's a 5.0L. Just put a carb and intake on it.
it's easier to just but an HEI distributor.. no headache involved
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: Scott D on October 01, 2010, 09:12:12 PM
Quote from: turbo_88_XR7;337520
it's easier to just but an HEI distributor.. no headache involved
Especially since it's starting as a 3.8L
Oh the joys.
This is almost how Red Fender beat me, but the 'underbird will be tamed.
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 01, 2010, 09:45:19 PM
that's right, it's a 97.. (just looked at your sig).. they had 3.8's and 4.6's, no 5.0.. and no SC's :(
HEI or MSD box is the way to go for ease of build.. if you want to make it complicated, go EFI :D
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: Scott D on October 01, 2010, 11:42:07 PM
Quote from: turbo_88_XR7;337546
HEI or MSD box is the way to go for ease of build.. if you want to make it complicated, go EFI :D
Nah, MSD works, for me :rollin:
Now, do I get the computer reprogrammed for the new engine, or do I do away with the computer and get a wiring harness from say a Mustang?
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 02, 2010, 03:12:03 AM
if you're going carb, your harness and any efi harness is obsolete.. all you need is an ignition-on hot wire, whether you're going HEI or MSD
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Post by: sarjxxx on October 02, 2010, 11:30:41 AM
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 02, 2010, 02:17:29 PM
the 4 barrel intake? that'd open up some power on a 3.8 hahah
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: thunderjet302 on October 02, 2010, 09:05:25 PM
How many miles are on it? My 95 has just over 88,000 on it and it's holding up fine so far. I do change the coolant every year just as a precaution. When the head gaskets do let go the car is gone however.....
If you don't have the money for a new engine I would stop driving the car right now. If you get the oil too diluted you will kill the main bearings really quick. A head gasket job isn't that bad and cheaper than a new engine.....
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Post by: Scott D on October 03, 2010, 05:00:54 AM
Quote from: turbo_88_XR7;337622
the 4 barrel intake? that'd open up some power on a 3.8 hahah
Too bad I've got cast internals. I'd be in the same position with power adders on the current engine as I am, now. Spend money and have the engine go south.
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How many miles are on it? My 95 has just over 88,000 on it and it's holding up fine so far. I do change the coolant every year just as a precaution. When the head gaskets do let go the car is gone however.....
If you don't have the money for a new engine I would stop driving the car right now. If you get the oil too diluted you will kill the main bearings really quick. A head gasket job isn't that bad and cheaper than a new engine.....
I've got less than 97,000 miles on the 'underbird. With that being said, the 'underbird is my second car, making it the third car in the family. So, it doesn't get driven very often, to begin with.
I've been told it's an relatively easy deal to do the head gaskets, but then I lose my excuse to add the two-cylinder bolt on kit :(
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 03, 2010, 08:25:44 AM
yeah but to be on the safe side, you should have the heads milled.. as for a power adder, you can go that route, just not too far. the cast internals can take a little boost psi.. i just don't know how much on a 3.8
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: Scott D on October 03, 2010, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: turbo_88_XR7;337733
yeah but to be on the safe side, you should have the two cylinder bolt-on kit put in as soon as you can
Fixed it for you ;)
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 03, 2010, 05:35:58 PM
hahahahah, wouldn't it be nice if it was that easy?
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: vinnietbird on October 03, 2010, 05:53:17 PM
Quote from: Scott D;337544
This is almost how Red Fender beat me, but the 'underbird will be tamed.
Don't talk like that.You don't want to try to tame it...you have to have an "understanding". I tried to tame my blue T-Bird,and the more I fought,the more it fought back. With the Sport,I take care of her,she takes care of me.We have an "understanding". .... a mutual respect if you will. It sounds crazy,but it's working.
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 03, 2010, 05:56:36 PM
and my ex told me i had issues for having a mutual relationship with my cars.. little does she know, i'm not the only 1 lol
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: Scott D on October 03, 2010, 07:01:27 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;337800
Don't talk like that.You don't want to try to tame it...you have to have an "understanding". I tried to tame my blue T-Bird,and the more I fought,the more it fought back. With the Sport,I take care of her,she takes care of me.We have an "understanding". .... a mutual respect if you will. It sounds crazy,but it's working.
No, I honestly don't want to tame it, I want to have fun with the car :headbang: See, I think the 'underbird was telling me, "hey, jackass, I'm not a slow car, I can be the most bad ass car at the track, too." So, in order to show me the way it is going to be, she puked the headgasket. Oh well ...shiznit happens, right?
She and I talked this morning. I told her, "I'm gonna give you an engine low to the ground... extra thick oil pan to cut the wind from underneath you. It'll give you thirty or forty more horsepower. I'm gonna give you a fuel line that'll hold an extra gallon of gas. I'm gonna shave half an inch off you and shape you like a bullet. I'll get you primed, painted and weighed, and you'll be ready to go out on that racetrack. Hear me? You're gonna be perfect."
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 03, 2010, 07:18:12 PM
Quote from: Scott D;337816
No, I honestly don't want to tame it, I want to have fun with the car :headbang: See, I think the 'underbird was telling me, "hey, jackass, I'm not a slow car, I can be the most bad ass car at the track, too." So, in order to show me the way it is going to be, she puked the headgasket. Oh well ...shiznit happens, right?
She and I talked this morning. I told her, "I'm gonna give you an engine low to the ground... extra thick oil pan to cut the wind from underneath you. It'll give you thirty or forty more horsepower. I'm gonna give you a fuel line that'll hold an extra gallon of gas. I'm gonna shave half an inch off you and shape you like a bullet. I'll get you primed, painted and weighed, and you'll be ready to go out on that racetrack. Hear me? You're gonna be perfect."
:rollin: :laughing:
Title: Teaching My Wife's Boy to Work on the 'underbird
Post by: daminc on October 03, 2010, 09:16:17 PM
Huh...... Me and my cougar have been together for so long, we don't need to even say anything. We just somehow know..... Same goes for my car.
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Post by: sarjxxx on October 04, 2010, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: daminc;337830
Huh...... Me and my cougar have been together for so long, we don't need to even say anything. We just somehow know..... Same goes for my car.
:laughing::rollin:
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Post by: sarjxxx on October 04, 2010, 09:25:15 PM
if your gonna do headgaskets, why not just go the whole 9 yards and swap out to split port. There's a real bolt on for ya
200 hp and 30 lbs lighter than the v8......
pretty sraightforward on a 96/97 too, all the computer bs is already there
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Post by: turbo_88_XR7 on October 04, 2010, 11:48:18 PM