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Technical => Drivetrain Tech => Topic started by: jpc647 on August 09, 2010, 12:57:42 PM

Title: Rear End/Speedometer Gear Question
Post by: jpc647 on August 09, 2010, 12:57:42 PM
I'm sure this question has been asked, but a search didn't show me what I was looking for.

When I swapped in my 87 thunderbird engine and AOD tranny from the car, I left the stock rear end. It is a one leg, 3.08 rear end, which came mated to the 1988 thunderbird 3.8lv6.

I have a vss signal error message when I run codes, and I'm guessing I have the wrong speedometer gear, so either vss thinks the car is going faster or slower. Having a 3.08 rear as opposed to the 2.73 limited slip rear the v8 came with, I would assume the speedometer would read higher than my actual speed, correct? What gear would I need to put in the tranny to make it accurate for the 3.08 rear? Is it hard to change a speedo gear? Are they expensive?
Title: Rear End/Speedometer Gear Question
Post by: Beau on August 09, 2010, 01:15:53 PM
Scroll down past the ring and pinion sets and there should be a chart that will be helpful for you. :D

Chart (http://"http://www.fordracingparts.com/download/charts/129.pdf")
Title: Rear End/Speedometer Gear Question
Post by: BogusSVO on August 09, 2010, 01:36:58 PM
this might also help if you have done gear and tire size change

http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculatorfin.jsp
Title: Rear End/Speedometer Gear Question
Post by: Cougar8775 on August 09, 2010, 01:58:58 PM
if needed i have a set of 2 speedo gears im not using i could sell ya on the cheap. bought em for my 84 that had the v8 with the 3.08 rear end.
Title: Rear End/Speedometer Gear Question
Post by: jpc647 on August 09, 2010, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;331277
Scroll down past the ring and pinion sets and there should be a chart that will be helpful for you. :D

Chart (http://"http://www.fordracingparts.com/download/charts/129.pdf")


I have the automatic...?
Title: Rear End/Speedometer Gear Question
Post by: BogusSVO on August 09, 2010, 05:58:07 PM
the far right part of the chart is for autos...... with you having the 87 AOD,

depends on what drive gear you have in your auto trans,  a 7 tooth or 8 tooth

but from what it looks like to me.....
if you have the 7t drive gear you need the 18T Gray C7SZ-B <-- that is an obsole number

chances are this would be more of your set up
8t drive gear and you would need the 20T Orange C8SZ-B
Title: Rear End/Speedometer Gear Question
Post by: thunderjet302 on August 09, 2010, 06:41:41 PM
If it's a T-bird/Cougar AOD then you have the 8 tooth drive gear.
Title: Rear End/Speedometer Gear Question
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on August 10, 2010, 08:57:31 PM
I answered in the misc tech as well but for everyone, THE SPEED SENSOR COULD CARE LESS WHICH REAR END OR WHAT GEAR IS IN THE TRANSMISSION....

NOW since you have a '87, there is no wiring connection to the EEC from the speed sensor... Of course this assumes you've swapped a '87 harness...
Title: Rear End/Speedometer Gear Question
Post by: mcb82gt on August 11, 2010, 07:55:24 PM
I was wondering why the hell a different gear ratio would throw a code?  I always learn something new though. LOL