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General => General Fox T-Bird/Cougar Discussion => Topic started by: Whiteboy on July 20, 2010, 01:00:32 AM

Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Whiteboy on July 20, 2010, 01:00:32 AM
Well the last few weeks if you guys havent noticed i havent been on much, I put pony rims on the bird and am having some fun with the guys in town now that we all decided to start a real club of.... well pretty much anyone with a car...lol. After a speeding ticket, a convinced prosecuting attorney, and some money spent on junk, im back.

 BUT. Ive decided to drop the H.O. in a lighter body.... As my good buddy said the other night, " You'll never beat me no matter how big the engine is because you're too heavy, and when you do beat me, ill tear my car down, rebuild,  and beat you again"-- words of a true friend.

SOOO, Im going to keep the Tbird in good shape, with my engine, possibly put some stuff on it for a few giggles, and get another roller for the larger engine... so here is what ive found

Choice # 1-- No pictures but my friend a fox body stang for 300 and for 500 he'll throw in a 9 inch posi-trac 3.73 rear end. Cody has a C4 he wants rid of and walah, my engine and its running! does need some TLC on the interior.....ummm...there is none.

Choice #2-- http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/1827222791.html

what say yoouuu? (I already know what you votes will be lol)
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Whiteboy on July 20, 2010, 01:28:39 AM
Oh my..... This is exactly like the car i skipped out on buying to buy my first tbird.... I think its time.

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/1848631646.html
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Haystack on July 20, 2010, 01:28:45 AM
Why bother swapping cars for a 200 pound drop in weight. The added expense could easily be put into an engine and easily out perform a stock mustang. The 83-86's are lighter, generally, but that is only because of fewer standard options. Swap in manual windows, mirrors, seats, A/C and clean out the wiring and you'll be close to the same weight and you won't have to start all over again. Just my 2 cents.
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Watchdevil on July 20, 2010, 02:07:17 AM
Quote from: Haystack;328909
Why bother swapping cars for a 200 pound drop in weight. The added expense could easily be put into an engine and easily out perform a stock mustang. The 83-86's are lighter, generally, but that is only because of fewer standard options. Swap in manual windows, mirrors, seats, A/C and clean out the wiring and you'll be close to the same weight and you won't have to start all over again. Just my 2 cents.


While you are at it remove one taillamp bulb from each side... :rollin:

Seriously though I would not start over again either. Take Haystack's advice... If this is so important then I would go even further and rip all the seats out except the driver one, take out the headliner and also the carpeting. And don't forget to leave the spare tire at home! Hell u can save more weight by removing the bumper covers and taking off the bumper beams and put the bumper covers back on (at risk of collision protection of course)...
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: vinnietbird on July 20, 2010, 07:02:35 AM
If you beat him,he'll tear his car apart and rebuild it then beat you......that's stupid.,especially if that is what you are basing your decisions on.I've spanked more than a few Stangs with the Sport.The weight difference isn't that much.For the cost of another car to start on,you could add some decent power to what you have.Put the money into the engine,gears,and suspension (including brakes),and go have fun.Also,start hanging out with people who know what they're talking about.This guy you are mentioning has no clue.I haven't removed anything for weight savings,and the Sport still does some serious Stang beating.I'm even adding a second power seat for the passenger side.You don't have to have a gutted car to run quick,and again,let your "friend' talk. Who cares? It's talk.
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on July 20, 2010, 09:06:48 AM
Really, do you buy and work on cars to please yourself, or others? Personally, I'd find it a source of pride that my buddy had to tear his car apart and rebuild it to get by me...
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: hypostang on July 20, 2010, 03:44:31 PM
I vote get new friends ;)
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: vinnietbird on July 20, 2010, 04:34:21 PM
I agree with Thunder Chicken....if my buddy has to rebuild to beat the Sport.I did good.
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Beau on July 21, 2010, 02:03:22 AM
There's always a bigger fish...or in your case, faster.

Build it like you want...
Because it's not a dick size contest.


I dunno...guess I need to do something other than poke around on a public forum...feeling less than social tonight. :toilet:
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Whiteboy on July 21, 2010, 06:40:51 AM
Lol woah guys I didn't mean that's why I wanna get a lighter car because he'd rebuild his. I wanna lighter car because I want a lighter car... Lol no matter what if he rebuilds it'll be faster. Therefore I can't compete, but lighter has always been more fun, why not have a stang and my bird? Lol I didn't mean I want lighter to outrun him I want lighter basically why anyone would, more speed. And btw if I had cars to please others I wouldn't have my bird in the first place, a year of granny car and girlfriends not liking them has taught me to ignore most opinions.
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Haystack on July 22, 2010, 12:04:47 AM
You need a better choice in women then. Most "chick" I dated in high school like my old 86 more then I did.
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: daminc on July 22, 2010, 07:43:16 AM
Quote from: Haystack;329115
You need a better choice in women then. Most "chick" I dated in high school like my old 86 more then I did.


I was going to say the same thing about my 87, but now I'm 44 and I'm not sure what it will attract. lol
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: vinnietbird on July 22, 2010, 08:59:10 AM
No lie, almost everytime I take the Sport out after washing and waxing,some one,mostly chicks,say they REALLY like the car."That's pretty....what is it?"...."I love that color"....."Is it fast".....One day Alex (my son) and I were stopped at a red light and a whole Tahoe full of girls were fawning over the car. The Sport did good for herself.
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Cad-T-Bird 500 on July 22, 2010, 09:05:35 AM
Mustangs are much lighter, especially the coupe, but they also feel cheap.  Once you drive a T-bird or Cougar you just will not be happy with a Mustang (unless it's a 2011).  You can lighten up a T-bird or a Cougar but it will always be about 500 pounds more than a Mustang.

The other problem with a Mustang is that when you go to the track everyone has one and most of them will be faster than you.  They will be also faster than your Mustang or Cougar but at least you will look good.

With the T-bird I'm usually the only one at the track and I kind of like this.

But it sounds like your friends Mustang is a heck of a buy, even if you just use it for parts.

TED
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Beau on July 22, 2010, 10:53:54 AM
The only attention mine will attract will be from guys driving four-doors with red and blue lights on the roof.

Which is ok, cause it means it's fast and loud and ugly....don't need any women fawning over the car (and  sure not me) 2 kids and one woman are about as much as I can handle lol.


I had an 86 Stang coupe....rattled, shook, and didn't have a hell of a lot of room for more than one passenger. Like driving a tuna can with tires and a windshield. I'll keep my Bird I reckon...it's fast enough (for now).
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: 86T-bird on July 22, 2010, 11:19:00 AM
I am fortunate enough to have both. 

The Mustang is a purpose built car.  It's lighter, all parts fit and easier to fit in my garage.  Rattles, poor ride, hard to get into, are all moot as they don't detract from it's purpose.

The T-Bird weighs about 800 lbs more, it purpose is for the street.  I made sure it has enough power to over come the weight:evilgrin:

Both cars pull attention, just from different crowds.

IMHO the only draw back is having two cars.  When cash is available, which one get the attention and which one sits (or do the both sit..)?
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Kitz Kat on July 22, 2010, 03:45:56 PM
Get his parts for cheap, and keep beating him.
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: sarjxxx on July 22, 2010, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: Cad-T-Bird 500;329143
...With the T-bird I'm usually the only one...and I kind of like this

Exactly. I wouldn't get a mustang if it was free. Way too many people have em and their just overrated in my opinion. Grab the cougar and build it or stick with the bird.

In my opinion you should stick with the bird. You'll feel much better about not abandoning your dream later.
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: rg171352 on July 22, 2010, 10:50:14 PM
I don't know if it's true, but when I first got my Cougar I was told they do a better job hooking than the Mustangs.  Something about more weight in the back?
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: Cad-T-Bird 500 on July 22, 2010, 11:04:07 PM
I have not seen very many (maybe none) T-Bird/Cougars that have better 60' times than a Fox Mustang.

TED
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: rg171352 on July 22, 2010, 11:42:32 PM
I always figured that was just because there weren't as many people toying with them compared to the Mustangs...
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: ShowBoy on July 23, 2010, 12:21:18 AM
Quote from: Whiteboy;328904
BUT. Ive decided to drop the H.O. in a lighter body....


Quote from: Haystack;328909
Why bother swapping cars for a 200 pound drop in weight.


Quote from: Watchdevil;328912
While you are at it remove one taillamp bulb from each side... :rollin:


Quote from: Cad-T-Bird 500;329143
Mustangs are much lighter,...


If it's a weight issue, maybe you want to consider a crash diet.

Get yourself down to about 80-90 pounds and that car will fly.

At least it better -- or all the big kids will be all over you.

Okay, that was my 2¢ ---- maybe even 25¢ worth.
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: thunderjet302 on July 23, 2010, 11:38:19 AM
Just get one of these: http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=10356
Title: Converting to a kitty...or a pony?
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on July 25, 2010, 06:07:59 PM
That would defenately take care of the problem!