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Title: new deck
Post by: jcassity on July 11, 2010, 09:50:58 AM
progress pics of my past week of afternoons.  first full day of work on this thing yesterday.
heading back out now to get on it,, ie- wake up the late sleepers with the skills saw:evilgrin:
Title: new deck
Post by: jcassity on July 11, 2010, 10:05:10 AM
I need my outside plate to curve like pictured.  I have two choices for 3 corners of my deck.........

1- drop off three of my 2''x6''x12' long framing lumber down at the lake and tie them to the bank (get em water logged).  fetch them in a week and bend them to a jig and secure,, let the sun do the rest.

2- cut 3 pieces of 3/4'' plywood 6'' wide x 12' long and bend them together, shoot em with drywall screws and that should be a good shape without all the hassel.

?? ideas
Title: new deck
Post by: Cougar8775 on July 11, 2010, 11:45:29 AM
what i would do is off the corner of the house i would go straight across from that point and set a post there to use that as the center of your arc and an anchor point for the center of that arc. and if you can get one solid piece of wood to bend it would be alot stronger than doing the plywood and sheet rock screws. if that makes any sense for ya. But its looking good!
Title: new deck
Post by: ipsd on July 11, 2010, 12:43:12 PM
Not just in strength but in looks the Bent Solid wood would look better and then you also have something to talk about when they ask. Wow is this one piece? It is yours so do as you want.

Stuckman
Title: new deck
Post by: Beau on July 11, 2010, 01:56:35 PM
That's gonna be nice when done. I agree on the one piece idea. How long would you have to soak it to get pliable enough?

I know boat builders did and still do it that way, but how about the longevity of the board afterward?

More pics! :D
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Post by: Scott D on July 11, 2010, 02:16:46 PM
Looks bad assed.

After we get the roof of our house done, we've got plans to fence in the yard. Among other house projects, I would like to expand and at least cover our deck.

Keep us updated. House projects are almost as fun as car projects :)
Title: new deck
Post by: jcassity on July 11, 2010, 02:26:39 PM
Quote from: Cougar8775;327944
what i would do is off the corner of the house i would go straight across from that point and set a post there to use that as the center of your arc and an anchor point for the center of that arc.


yeah ,, thats the current plan as i have the block ready now for the center of the arch.

this is kicking my ass because what i do on the bottom determines my ability to support the roof that will also swing in an arch as well.

Ive spent more time staring and looking than hitting nails today.

quick etch and sketch of how im gonna lock in the tops of the posts and a pic of the posts all cut and prep'd to accept 2 layers of offset 2x6' on top and room to add a 2x12 vertically in the knotch.
Title: new deck
Post by: jcassity on July 11, 2010, 08:00:39 PM
well, this one gave me a hard fight,, but i won!!!
Title: new deck
Post by: Thunder Chicken on July 11, 2010, 08:29:45 PM
Nice. I love that house...
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Post by: hypostang on July 11, 2010, 08:33:56 PM
Looks good , what did you actually do to get it to curve ?
Title: new deck
Post by: Watchdevil on July 11, 2010, 11:32:38 PM
What a great home!
Title: new deck
Post by: jcassity on July 12, 2010, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: hypostang;327990
Looks good , what did you actually do to get it to curve ?



i hosed off the board, then stood it upright kinda locking it into the extension ladder.  still adding water slowly bouncing it but pulling down more than anything to stretch the fibers, i got a decent bend.  I started with a naturally warped board. Its raining now on the lumber so it will be much easier to do.

I couldnt go any further on the arch, it was all we could do to set this arch.

You cant see it but what I did was cut the two exising outter plates at a inside 45 by just tpuppies the end.  I cut the new board the opposite way. the new board is kinda locked in there in a bind.  Without nails and no support, it just stuck right in place.

3 to go, its raining on the lumber now so things may go easier this eve for the next one.
Title: new deck
Post by: hypostang on July 12, 2010, 11:17:20 AM
Cool . I'm impressed ;)
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Post by: jcassity on July 13, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
another one,, these fight hard!!
Title: new deck
Post by: jcassity on July 14, 2010, 09:36:13 AM
ok,, so math and me get along well enough but,,,,,,,,,
how do I find my 16'' centers on the arch above?

My framing will be coming off the existing side porch and butt into the arch in the same direction as the new framing.

I found one 16'' center, that was easy as I had a reference point off my new framing.

without cheating, ie- using a piece of lumber to lay up there with a square & tape, how to i locate 16'' centers along the arch?
Title: new deck
Post by: oldraven on July 14, 2010, 12:55:04 PM
You could lay the board down and use two others of identical length, (short and used like spacers), to get your 16"O.C.. Take however thick your joists are, and subtract that from 16", then cut the two spacers to that length. I don't know if that's considered cheating, or just a good, practical, and easy way to get the job done. In the time it would take you to get your figures all worked out (with an unknown radius), your marks will be made and you'll be ready to cut. KISS! ;)

That looks awesome, by the way. I'm glad you didn't go with plywood, after doing everything else so well.
Title: new deck
Post by: jcassity on July 14, 2010, 06:18:01 PM
yeah,, im heading out now to cheat.

:D

im gonna show you all how to make those archs btw,, i have a secret.
Title: new deck
Post by: jcassity on September 19, 2010, 04:12:56 PM
I think now is a good stopping point.  The porch will wrap around on each end of the house but the back will have an upper deck or balcony spanning the whole rear.  I would have to chainsaw out a couple windows and put in doors so ,, looks like I will pick back up on this next year.  its getting too close to late in the year to continue.  Everything is protected and 16 gallons of green oil base later, I have to say its been fun.
BTW, oil base paints are getting harder and harder to come by so if you see some, get it now.
Title: new deck
Post by: crystal on September 19, 2010, 10:56:58 PM
That's crazy! I gave up on all construction projects that don't involve metal. Too much metalworking has made me a tolerence puppies and that just doesn't work out with wood. Close tolerences are supposed to be good, not make your pieces too big! I'd have probably freaked out and given up log before getting to the point you're at.

Seriously though, looks great!
Title: new deck
Post by: Kitz Kat on September 20, 2010, 01:59:48 PM
Some places it's getting illegal to buy oil base.
Title: new deck
Post by: jcassity on September 20, 2010, 11:40:02 PM
apparently its noting to do with anything other than hazmat rules with respect to the required msds on file for containers over a certain size given all the exceptions applicable to super market chain stores.

lowes has the honey brown and cedar tone stains in 5gal containers.  Wal mart is redoing thier paint dept down here and the 5gal cans are half price.  At 68 bux a 5gal can, im pretty sure im going back to get the remaining 6 cans they have. 

its odd though about the oil base paint.  People looked at me like i was from mars when i said i wanted deck enamal in oil base.  they were like,, oh, you mean deck stain?  No, I want hunter green oil base deck paint.  Then lowes said they had this stuff like oil base but its alkalyne or whatever type paint.  The 1gal cans dont say "oil" anywhere. 
not sure anymore what kind of chemicals are going to be avail to us here soon.