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Post by: Watchdevil on July 06, 2010, 10:42:23 PM
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Post by: jpc647 on July 07, 2010, 10:39:56 AM
So this goes in the empty cubby slot above the radio? got a picture of it installed with a cup in it? lol I think I want this.
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Post by: hypostang on July 07, 2010, 11:58:01 AM
It wont fit above the radio without doing some modification to the a/c duct work


 ask me how I know :(
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Post by: jpc647 on July 07, 2010, 01:40:48 PM
How do you know? lol Isn't the duct work above the empty cubby hole?
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Post by: hypostang on July 07, 2010, 02:01:15 PM
Its kinda above...... but where it starts to slope down to connect to the heater box it is not far enough back to fit the slide out trays .
I have one of these trays on a shelf in my garage that I was hoping to use.
 If you don't have EATC you can modify the stack and put it in the bottom slot though :D
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Post by: jpc647 on July 07, 2010, 02:36:23 PM
Hmm... My bottom slot have my HVAC controts. I would have to transfer the radio up one, the HVAC up one and this in the bottom... It might work. Why would the slide out trays be the problem, they are contained. Why would this connect to the heater box?
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Post by: hypostang on July 07, 2010, 02:43:06 PM
The whole assembly is too deep to fit in the top slot......  and sorry I wasn't clear , where the duct work slopes to meet the heater box  is not far enough back for this tray to work . I think Daminc has done this mod on his convertible  .  I know i have seen pics of it somewhere  . anyway ...bottom line is it will not fit in the top slot :D
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Post by: daminc on July 07, 2010, 06:55:05 PM
you pretty much need the same room as the radio needs to make it fit. you would need to move the heater controls to the top space.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/85%20Vert/IMG_5602.jpg)
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Post by: Watchdevil on July 07, 2010, 11:13:32 PM
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you pretty much need the same room as the radio needs to make it fit. you would need to move the heater controls to the top space.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/85%20Vert/IMG_5602.jpg)


That's where I remember the suggested location should be in the bottom slot. I forgot what location actually had the cubby because I get all confused with all the different positions I see people use. Anyway what is shown here is the best ergonomic arrangement all around with HVAC controls, then radio, then cupholder.

I feel a little silly now offering this cupholder for sale since they are a dime a dozen on numerous Ford Taruses and Mercury Sables. However I hate to discard it if someone wants it.
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Post by: jpc647 on July 08, 2010, 09:11:06 PM
Would this fit with the floor shifter and console  car? I want a cup holder, I just don't want to be able to use it.
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Post by: daminc on July 08, 2010, 09:54:29 PM
I suppose it would work... might hit if the car is in park. if someone could measure the distance between the shifter and dash, I could measure the extended position of the cup holder from the dash outward. I'm putting a full console in the vert myself, but not the floor shifter.
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Post by: Watchdevil on July 09, 2010, 03:44:20 AM
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Would this fit with the floor shifter and console  car? I want a cup holder, I just don't want to be able to use it.


What? You want a cup holder you don't wanna use???:rollin:

I would say it would be functional only if the shifter was in gear.
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Post by: jpc647 on July 12, 2010, 12:54:59 PM
Sorry I made a typo. I meant I don't want to buy it and then not be able to use it. lol

Would I have to remove part of the dash to swap the heater controls? Is this a hard modification? I would only want to be able to use the cupholder when I'm driving.

And daminc, if you could get those measurements that would be awesome. I have a full console and floor shifter, I can measure the space, :)
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Post by: mcb82gt on July 12, 2010, 06:37:31 PM
I just measured from the lower section, back to my floor shifter in park.  It was 3.25 inches approx.
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Post by: daminc on July 12, 2010, 06:41:16 PM
The cup holder extends out 5" from the dash.
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Post by: jpc647 on July 14, 2010, 03:22:18 PM
Alright. So it will fit in the bottom slot. We established that above. Now my question is, does the dash have to be taken out in order to swap the heater controls? Obviously the bezel has to come off, but can I move the heater(stock non ATC) controls without unbolting the dash?
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Post by: Watchdevil on July 15, 2010, 02:27:02 AM
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Alright. So it will fit in the bottom slot. We established that above. Now my question is, does the dash have to be taken out in order to swap the heater controls? Obviously the bezel has to come off, but can I move the heater(stock non ATC) controls without unbolting the dash?


No dash removal is required. All you have to do is remove the trimplate off the centerstack, unscrew the four screws that hold the heater controls. Next you have to unplug the electrical connections, remove the two nuts that hold the vaccum lines, then remove the clip that retains the cable to the heater controls. Re-route the wiring, vacuum connector and cable to the top slot in the dash then install the control panel in it's new location.

This here will help: http://www.coolcats.net/media/docs/rotary_heater_panel.pdf (http://"http://www.coolcats.net/media/docs/rotary_heater_panel.pdf")

This is a PDF guide on installing the later model Ford rotary panel but you can basically follow this procedure using your original slide lever panel and you will be ommitting many unecessary steps.

It also covers the use and installation of the sliding cupholder.
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Post by: jpc647 on July 15, 2010, 02:34:28 PM
Watchdevil, the picutre you posted of the cougar with this installed, was any modiification needed to the bottom slot of the cup holder tray in order to make it and function?
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Post by: Watchdevil on July 15, 2010, 02:36:57 PM
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Watchdevil, the picutre you posted of the cougar with this installed, was any modiification needed to the bottom slot of the cup holder tray in order to make it and function?


The article does not mention any modification required. I assume it just slides and locks into the slot, then you just put the centerstack faceplate back on.