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Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 08, 2010, 04:58:57 PM
This car is literally 4 blocks from my house. Do you think I should pick it up? I've seen it being driven locally.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-LINCOLN-MK-VII-LSC-/150440538625?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2306f47201
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: hypostang on May 08, 2010, 09:16:33 PM
As a former Mark VII owner I would say , GO FOR IT !!!
 I absolutely loved mine,, I would still have it but I  was in a position where I needed to sell it in order to keep food on the table .
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: FLSTCI71 on May 08, 2010, 10:18:09 PM
I have never owned one, but I have always really liked those cars. If I was you, I would at least go check it out. Once you can see it in person, it may be pretty easy to make up your mind. FWIW, my opinion mirrors hypo's - GO FOR IT !!!
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: xjeffs on May 09, 2010, 06:21:47 PM
Hell no.  Problem with Marks is they were built with "high tech" features which now cost a fortune to fix.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: hypostang on May 09, 2010, 08:06:50 PM
Quote from: xjeffs;321233
Hell no.  Problem with Marks is they were built with "high tech" features which now cost a fortune to fix.

myths...
 Nothing is any more expensive than a bird or cougar :D
 The brakes are the same as 87-88 turbo coupe ,the EATC is the same , and the air suspension is highly misunderstood  but so painfully simple once you learn how it works .
  I would recommend joining "Lincolns On Line" forum if you buy one
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: Beau on May 09, 2010, 11:35:45 PM
I'd buy it.

When the 'bags go, swap the susp., unless you want to pay an arm, and 3 legs for new bags, etc.

Buy parts for a newer Mercedes, or a Porsche...Thunderbirds are cheap, trust me lol.

Rear brakes are different than TC's, and what's an etac? :flip: I thought it was EATC? lol ;):rollin:

I'd buy it, but then, I've wanted one for a minute or two...
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: hypostang on May 09, 2010, 11:41:45 PM
Quote from: ThunderbirdSport302;321281
I'd buy it.

When the 'bags go, swap the susp., unless you want to pay an arm, and 3 legs for new bags, etc.

Buy parts for a newer Mercedes, or a Porsche...Thunderbirds are cheap, trust me lol.

Rear brakes are different than TC's, and what's an etac? :flip: I thought it was EATC? lol ;):rollin:

I'd buy it, but then, I've wanted one for a minute or two...


New bags are cheaper than a conversion kit , And what I meant was the Teves ABS  system is the same
not the actual pads/ rotors

 And I never could type :hick:
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: Watchdevil on May 10, 2010, 12:11:38 AM
Go for it! I always liked these Mark VII's...
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: 5.0 tbird on May 10, 2010, 12:42:03 AM
My advice would be, if you buy it then make sure you also buy parts cars for it.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 10, 2010, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: 5.0 bird;321294
My advice would be, if you buy it then make sure you also buy parts cars for it.


What would I need a parts car for?:hick:
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: hypostang on May 10, 2010, 11:25:26 AM
Quote from: thunderjet302;321328
What would I need a parts car for?:hick:


 For the same reason you would need a parts car for any 20+ year old car ?????
 I wondered about that statement too :hick:
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: Cougars 2 go on May 10, 2010, 12:47:23 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;321148
Do you think I should pick it up?


Not for that buy-it-now price. That car is worth about $350-$450. How’s the tire tread? One of those shots makes the tires look like bologna skins.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 10, 2010, 05:16:34 PM
Quote from: hypostang;321334
For the same reason you would need a parts car for any 20+ year old car ?????
 I wondered about that statement too :hick:


Maybe I'm spoiled with my car which is complete and really doesn't need any parts;)

Quote from: Cougars 2 go;321345
Not for that buy-it-now price. That car is worth about $350-$450. How’s the tire tread? One of those shots makes the tires look like bologna skins.


You think I would pay almost $1,200 for that? No way. I was thinking about offering $450 and working around that. I only paid $900 for my 88 T-bird and it's a rust free California car. I think I got a hell of a deal on it;)
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: Cougars 2 go on May 10, 2010, 05:41:52 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;321373
You think I would pay almost $1,200 for that? No way. I was thinking about offering $450 and working around that. I only paid $900 for my 88 T-bird and it's a rust free California car. I think I got a hell of a deal on it;)


Ok, good.

Offer $350 and see where that goes.  Hopefully no hyper-sensitive types take offense...but you are competing with the junkyards on that car.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: 5.0 tbird on May 10, 2010, 05:54:24 PM
Quote from: hypostang;321334



Quote
Originally Posted by thunderjet302
What would I need a parts car for?


For the same reason you would need a parts car for any 20+ year old car ?????
 I wondered about that statement too :hick:


This is the reason, it's a lot cheaper to buy a bunch of spare Mark VIIs than to buy the parts to fix one up.

Actually, now that I think about it. You shouldn't buy it unless it doesn't need anything at all. It's a lot cheaper to buy a nice Mark VII that doesn't need anything than to buy a rough one and fix it up. :hick:

I bought a Mark VII for $475 and spent over 20 times that, and it still needed stuff done. Nice, straight rust free car too.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: hypostang on May 10, 2010, 05:55:09 PM
Quote from: Cougars 2 go;321382
Ok, good.

Offer $350 and see where that goes.  Hopefully no hyper-sensitive types take offense...but you are competing with the junkyards on that car.


I'm glad you were not around when I sold mine for $1850... lol
 Of course mine was nicer than that one :D
 
 Seriously though alot depends on the market where you are selling.
 Here in East TN you will not buy anything that can be driven home for less than $800, From what I hear from friends in Florida $200-300 buys stuff all the time .
Offer what it is worth to you , if he accepts I can tell you, you will like driving it :D
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: hypostang on May 10, 2010, 06:00:16 PM
Quote from: 5.0 bird;321385
This is the reason, it's a lot cheaper to buy a bunch of spare Mark VIIs than to buy the parts to fix one up.

Actually, now that I think about it. You shouldn't buy it unless it doesn't need anything at all. It's a lot cheaper to buy a nice Mark VII that doesn't need anything than to buy a rough one and fix it up. :hick:

I bought a Mark VII for $475 and spent over 20 times that, and it still needed stuff done. Nice, straight rust free car too.


Fair enough, I got mine for a straight up trade for a 98 Windstar mini van, The only things I needed to buy that were Mark specific were rear air springs . Everything else was available from other fords, I guess I was lucky    :D
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: jcassity on May 11, 2010, 03:53:54 AM
Id say get it,, i would like to learn past the air bag myths myself.  Always "heard" that was a major issue and expensive.

Ill bet I would end up being someone who says they are easy to fix as well.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 11, 2010, 10:03:51 AM
I'm going to look at the thing today. The big deciding factor for me is how much rot it has being that it's a Chicago car;)

I'm not worried about the electronics. My T-bird has pretty much everything that a Mark VII has. It's got power windows,locks and mirrors, full digital dash with the trip computer,  dual power seats with power recline, and the electronic climate control. It's only missing air suspension;)
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: 88FoxBird on May 11, 2010, 11:20:58 AM
Quote from: thunderjet302;321467
......It's only missing air suspension;)


Why must you put these thoughts in my head lol.

I'd go for it as long as the rust aint bad. I cant really see paying more than $800 for it if everything checks out good.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: hypostang on May 11, 2010, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: jcassity;321451
Id say get it,, i would like to learn past the air bag myths myself.  Always "heard" that was a major issue and expensive.

Ill bet I would end up being someone who says they are easy to fix as well.


I bet you would too , I was amazed at how simple it was and I'm kind of a dumba** :D
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 11, 2010, 03:13:47 PM
Well it's too late now. Someone paid the asking price for it (not me). I didn't even get a chance to get a good look at it. Oh well other cars will come up. They always do;)
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: 4bangen on May 11, 2010, 09:10:35 PM
marks rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UztrrGCAxQ

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa74/4bangen/89%20lsc/DSC_2029.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa74/4bangen/89%20lsc/6-1.jpg)
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: 4bangen on May 11, 2010, 09:13:56 PM
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa74/4bangen/3-4.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa74/4bangen/smark.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa74/4bangen/lincoln%20for%20sale/DSC_2542.jpg)
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: ShowBoy on May 11, 2010, 11:21:39 PM
I used to have one ---- and wish I had never let this guy talk me into selling it.

I think they are cool. 

Power plus luxury.

It's kinda like a Mustang in a tuxedo.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 12, 2010, 01:17:18 AM
I like 'em too I just have to find a decent one. The one near me sold before I could even get a close look at it. Another one will show up for sale again. I hope ;)
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: FLSTCI71 on May 12, 2010, 08:43:21 AM
Quote from: thunderjet302;321479
Well it's too late now. Someone paid the asking price for it (not me). I didn't even get a chance to get a good look at it.

Guess it was worth more than $350 then, wasn't it? hypostang was 100% right. It depends on where you're selling the car and what's available around there. Of course, in Chicago, there are a bazillion people too. So, you have a much greater chance of someone else in the area liking it. I've always paid whatever I thought a car was worth to me. You win some, you lose some. But if you buy what you like, then you're always happy. Look at the bird you have now. My guess is you'd be happy with that car even if you would have paid 3-4 times as much for it. Keep your eyes open and good luck!
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on May 12, 2010, 09:18:15 AM
Fixer upper in your area...

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/1736739272.html
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 12, 2010, 12:25:33 PM
Quote from: FLSTCI71;321569
Guess it was worth more than $350 then, wasn't it? hypostang was 100% right. It depends on where you're selling the car and what's available around there. Of course, in Chicago, there are a bazillion people too. So, you have a much greater chance of someone else in the area liking it. I've always paid whatever I thought a car was worth to me. You win some, you lose some. But if you buy what you like, then you're always happy. Look at the bird you have now. My guess is you'd be happy with that car even if you would have paid 3-4 times as much for it. Keep your eyes open and good luck!


I agree. I was only willing to pay somewhere around $400 for it. It wasn't worth more than that to me because of the paint. Someone else apparently was looking for that car though and had to have it.

Quote from: TurboCoupe50;321575
Fixer upper in your area...

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/1736739272.html


That's not bad but I need a running car. I have no way to get a non running car home as I don't know anyone with a truck and car trailer:hick:
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: Cougars 2 go on May 12, 2010, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: FLSTCI71;321569
Guess it was worth more than $350 then, wasn't it? hypostang was 100% right. It depends on where you're selling the car and what's available around there. Of course, in Chicago, there are a bazillion people too. So, you have a much greater chance of someone else in the area liking it. I've always paid whatever I thought a car was worth to me. You win some, you lose some. But if you buy what you like, then you're always happy. Look at the bird you have now. My guess is you'd be happy with that car even if you would have paid 3-4 times as much for it. Keep your eyes open and good luck!


I think this was a win for thunderjet.  There's plenty of Marks out there.  You are better off spending $3K on a really nice one needing nothing than $400 on one needing a bunch of stuff.  That car isn't worth $1200.  Just because someone pays a high price for something doesn't mean it's worth that high price.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: FLSTCI71 on May 12, 2010, 03:14:18 PM
Quote from: Cougars 2 go;321589
I think this was a win for thunderjet. (I agree.) There's plenty of Marks out there. (I agree.) You are better off spending $3K on a really nice one needing nothing than $400 on one needing a bunch of stuff. (I agree.) That car isn't worth $1200. (I didn't see it in person, so I can't agree or disagree, but someone thought it was.) Just because someone pays a high price for something doesn't mean it's worth that high price. (I agree, especially in the case of Barrett-Jackson.)

Hey, I think we're on the same page!
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: hypostang on May 12, 2010, 03:15:47 PM
Quote from: Cougars 2 go;321589
I think this was a win for thunderjet.  There's plenty of Marks out there.  You are better off spending $3K on a really nice one needing nothing than $400 on one needing a bunch of stuff.  That car isn't worth $1200.  Just because someone pays a high price for something doesn't mean it's worth that high price.


I'm sure it wasn't worth $1200 to you BUT......

I'm gonna disagree by saying obviously it was worth $1200 to somebody or it would not have sold  :D

I couldnt tell you what is was worth to me because I only saw a few pics on the computer, and that is not how I would want to buy a car ;)
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: Cougars 2 go on May 12, 2010, 03:38:04 PM
Paid $550 for this one:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2650998
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: hypostang on May 12, 2010, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: Cougars 2 go;321593
Paid $550 for this one:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2650998


Sweet , and a great deal ,:D
 I stick by what i said earlier about  different markets though
Here In beautiful East TN that would have gone for $2500 +
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: thunderjet302 on May 12, 2010, 06:19:39 PM
I don't need a Mark VII I just would like to have one. Hell really I just want to pick up another big Fox-body locally to tinker with. I just want a runner not something I would take to shows all the time. I have one for that already ;)
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: hypostang on May 12, 2010, 06:48:40 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;321609
I don't need a Mark VII I just would like to have one. Hell really I just want to pick up another big Fox-body locally to tinker with. I just want a runner not something I would take to shows all the time. I have one for that already ;)


And a gorgeous one at that.;)
 Personally I want about a hundred different fox bodys plus a few classic fords ,but for now I'll settle for what I have :hick:
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: jandmmustangs on May 12, 2010, 07:23:15 PM
The air ride system on the MKVII cars is very basic.  Once you tear into one and replace the parts you'll wonder why you were ever scared.  A very good friend of mine has a nice collection of those cars, all LSC's.  I was leary about them at first till i watched him do both front bags on a car he got for $300 (only needed bags) in about 1.5 hours and that was doing some heavy beer drinking too.  They are wonderful cars and the following is huge.  The biggest bitch ive seen with finding parts for them is for:

A:  Correct foglights
B:  Correct stereo equipment
C:  BBS Wheels (tough to find)
D:  Factory Recaro Seats

Then again all that  is really trivial in a DD.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: 4bangen on May 14, 2010, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: jandmmustangs;321615
The air ride system on the MKVII cars is very basic.  Once you tear into one and replace the parts you'll wonder why you were ever scared.  A very good friend of mine has a nice collection of those cars, all LSC's.  I was leary about them at first till i watched him do both front bags on a car he got for $300 (only needed bags) in about 1.5 hours and that was doing some heavy beer drinking too.  They are wonderful cars and the following is huge.  The biggest bitch ive seen with finding parts for them is for:

A:  Correct foglights
B:  Correct stereo equipment
C:  BBS Wheels (tough to find)
D:  Factory Recaro Seats

Then again all that  is really trivial in a DD.


1.5? must have been some hard core beer drinking.  I average about 20min. a bag on the front.
Title: Lincoln Mark VII buy it yes or no?
Post by: ShowBoy on May 15, 2010, 08:05:37 PM
Quote from: Cougars 2 go;321593
Paid $550 for this one:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2650998


Dang ---- that looks like a steal of a deal.

Nice ride.