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Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Silver88tc on May 06, 2010, 06:20:32 PM
My 01 mustang gt has sequential taillights and I was wondering if anyone makes a wiring harness to do the same on the turbo coupe I just bought.. Here's a video of a mustang(not mine) that has em in case you don't know what i'm talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPusz_BDcl0&feature=related
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: 88turbo on May 06, 2010, 06:27:58 PM
Thunder Chicken here used to make kits but has since stopped and wont make any more :(
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: hypostang on May 06, 2010, 06:30:23 PM
Here is a vendor
http://www.webelectricproducts.com/products.htm
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Silver88tc on May 06, 2010, 08:01:48 PM
Quote from: hypostang;320923
Here is a vendor
http://www.webelectricproducts.com/products.htm


Cool thanks! looks like the sts kit should work
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Dansbirds on May 06, 2010, 08:13:37 PM
They seem to flash to quickly to me, is the speed adjustable. Of course I am comparing it to the sequentials in my 65 Bird so maybe thats my issue
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Cad-T-Bird 500 on May 06, 2010, 09:27:03 PM
seems like a deal to me for $69

TED
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Watchdevil on May 07, 2010, 12:00:01 AM
You can certainly do this with your existing wiring harness. Get the kit that you just splice the sequencer into the existing wiring. It's much cheaper that way. The kit I got for my Mustang came with extra sockets to make all three sections functional. The only thing you will need to do for the taillamps on your bird is enlarge the socket hole so a standard Ford socket can go in... That include making the hole the right size and then filing some notches for the socket tabs to engage and turn when they are installed.

As far as sequencing, this is very dependent on how fast your flasher operates. On my Mustang they flash pretty fast. I wish they were a tad slower. The classic Fords had a much slower flash rate. If you use a non variable standard flasher the flash rate should slow down when you add more bulbs. If you notice the flash rate increases when a bulb goes out. Now if you use an electronic flasher or a thermal one designed for heavier loads, they have a consistant flash rate no matter how many bulbs you have, the flash rate will of course not slow down.

On the sequential system I have, the brake lamps sequence once. It annoyed me at first because it was not like a Ford factory setup, but I like it now. They do make kits that have a controllable flash rate and do not sequence the brake lamps.



I am still trying to come up with a design that will allow me to add sequential lamps to my 84 Tbird. Since I switched to 85-86 taillamps it will be easier since there is no back-up lamp in the center. I just have to work out a way to install a bulb in the center and provide blinds on each side of the center section for definition between the lighted sections. I have considered flat LED boards since they require little room to install behind the lens. There is a good space behind the center of the taillamp lens between the two main sections, but not really enough for a standard incadescent bulb.

I will have sequentials on this Tbird because it is a hallmark of classic models. I just have to work out the execution. My only other alternative is to buy a 1987-88 Tbird... LOL!

I tell you what I do not like... Lame sequentials used in only two section taillamps... Like the Camaro... why bother? Now what is cool is I have seen some LED type replacements light up in a starburst pattern from center to perimeter of the lens. These look cool on classic Tbirds and other Fords with the single round taillamps!
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Silver88tc on May 07, 2010, 02:05:10 AM
The ones in my mustang flash pretty fast, but people still notice because I get people asking me all the time how I did it haha. Mine was just a wiring harness
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: FLSTCI71 on May 12, 2010, 08:55:59 AM
We did the lights in my son's TC. I think they're a little fast, but they're okay. This is the 4-ways:

http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/flstci71/Car%20Pics/?action=view¤t=MOV07120.flv
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Watchdevil on May 12, 2010, 10:08:54 AM
Quote from: FLSTCI71;321572
We did the lights in my son's TC. I think they're a little fast, but they're okay. This is the 4-ways:

http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg4/flstci71/Car%20Pics/?action=view¤t=MOV07120.flv


They are just right for the 87-88 cars! The ones in my Mustang flash at the same rate. It has more to do with the faster flasher rate on modern cars.
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: FLSTCI71 on May 12, 2010, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: Watchdevil;321578
They are just right for the 87-88 cars! The ones in my Mustang flash at the same rate. It has more to do with the faster flasher rate on modern cars.

I think you are right about the flash rate and modern cars. The speed of the three lights is due to the speed of the flasher. If there were four lights, they would have to flash in the same total amount of time as the three do. It doesn't matter how many lights are involved. Like you said, it has to do with the speed of the flasher. Either way, they are kind of cool.
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: sarjxxx on May 12, 2010, 05:13:57 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/C14-Sequencer-Turn-Signals-Universal-Conversion-kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ef2543734QQitemZ270353577780QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

this kit replaces your standard flasher with an electronic that is timed to work specifically with the kit
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: 86caprirs on May 12, 2010, 09:44:03 PM
Thats for the 60's/70's stuff that already has the sequential flasher on them and have since broken. This is just the electronic replacement.
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Watchdevil on May 12, 2010, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: sarjxxx;321597
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/C14-Sequencer-Turn-Signals-Universal-Conversion-kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ef2543734QQitemZ270353577780QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

this kit replaces your standard flasher with an electronic that is timed to work specifically with the kit


It is funny. They misspelled "muscle car" in the ad.. it says "mussel car"... :rollin:

I mean come on now... if you are going to professional sell something proofread the ad!
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Thunder Chicken on May 13, 2010, 05:38:23 AM
What, so seafood can't have cars?
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: flipnbird on May 13, 2010, 06:24:59 AM
Thunderchicken.....You don't sale the sequentials anymore???
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: sarjxxx on May 13, 2010, 05:13:12 PM
Quote from: 86caprirs;321632
Thats for the 60's/70's stuff that already has the sequential flasher on them and have since broken. This is just the electronic replacement.

:disappoin
....read it again...

I quote:

"
The TS-1 Sequential Turn Signal Universal  Conversion kit is an electronic system to provide sequential flashers  for automobiles that did not come with factory sequencing taillights.  Vehicles to be converted should have three taillights per side that have  both a tail and brake light filament in each bulb."

And if you still don't believe me........

http://www.coolcats.net/modifying/sequential.html

....."Cougars Unlimited (http://"http://www.thuntek.net/cougars_unlimited/ts1promo.htm") - One of the first mass-produced,  modern era kits. Owner Victor personally builds each one and makes sure  that every one flashes correctly for both sides. Basically it's a  foolproof design: if you accidentally hook up the system wrong, it won't  short out. This is the kit we used because it was the best available at  the time. The kit has recently had a huge price increase, though; at  last check it was around $140 US with shipping. Still, it's an excellent  quality kit and we can also recommend it.                                                       

If you're thinking about using the  newer Mustang sequential kit sold by Classic  Design Concepts (http://"http://www.classicdesignconcepts.com/") and others, don't waste your time. The newer  Mustangs have totally different wiring setups than our cars. Plus, you  need to send in a Mustang harness for a core charge (which was $75 US at  last check). There is no practical way to adapt it to an older car like  yours. It's much, much better to go with one of the kits listed above."....


:p:p:p
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Thunder Chicken on May 13, 2010, 05:53:45 PM
Quote from: flipnbird;321683
Thunderchicken.....You don't sale the sequentials anymore???

Nope, I closed up shop last October. Income was not exceediung outgo, so a change needed to be made. Plus, eBay stopped being even remotely enjoyable.
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Trinom on May 14, 2010, 06:48:00 AM
Quote from: sarjxxx;321597
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/C14-Sequencer-Turn-Signals-Universal-Conversion-kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ef2543734QQitemZ270353577780QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

this kit replaces your standard flasher with an electronic that is timed to work specifically with the kit

$160 for this nothing? Can't believe! Value of this kit isn't higher than $25 in parts, so maybe $50 total.

I did it, it WORKS with LEDs and doesn't need any load resistor. And this resistor costs $1, not $15.
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: sarjxxx on May 20, 2010, 10:33:45 PM
Quote from: Everybody
:flame:
Jesus Christ! I'm just saying "hey, its out there, it works, eric proved it. its a possible solution." I'm not saying "Hey! Go buy this incredibly overpriced ebay special that nobody wants" :toilet:
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: BJL on June 01, 2010, 10:14:51 PM
i used the webelectricproducts.com kit on both my 87 and 88, i have had the best luck with them.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71/BJL88TC/Turbo%20III/th_0228001620.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a71/BJL88TC/Turbo%20III/?action=view¤t=0228001620.flv)
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: turbo88 on August 10, 2010, 11:22:25 PM
Quote from: BJL;323972
i used the webelectricproducts.com kit on both my 87 and 88, i have had the best luck with them.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71/BJL88TC/Turbo%20III/th_0228001620.jpg) (http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a71/BJL88TC/Turbo%20III/?action=view¤t=0228001620.flv)


does it work with the brake lights to though?
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: hypostang on August 10, 2010, 11:24:59 PM
Check out this web site it shows how they work


http://www.webelectricproducts.com/products.htm
Title: sequential taillights in a turbo coupe
Post by: Masejoer on August 14, 2010, 11:53:49 PM
Know what's weird? I got one of the webelectricproducts kits and it came with a lifesaver mint :p