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It's so slow tonight, I figure I'll start a time-killer. This is gonna be long, but most decent time-killers are. Feel free to be equally as verbose.

Ever start down a line of unusual thinking, to have it lead to something completely bizarre?

Of course, "stupid" is highly subjective. You might think it's a silly idea, but someone else might think it's genius.. or vice versa. It could be an idea that's entirely do-able.. or it could be something that would probably, in reality, turn your car into a twisted pile of s metal faster than you can say: "here goes nothing.." It could be something you're planning on trying but know it could be a mess, or it could be something you thought of but will probably never do. It could be within your current budget, or it could make NASA jealous. Whatever it is, if you're willing to admit to it, here's the place! I'll go first just to get the laughs going.

-- I admit, I'm  near obsessed with these gear-splitters I've found. (overdrive or underdrive) I think it's pretty kool that you can essentially fabricate an 8-speed transmission out of an AOD + a splitter, for example. Ford even appears to be following that path with this new TorqShift "5-speed" (actually it's 6, computer chooses the 6th over another gear in certain conditions) transmission, since it has separated OD from the rest and basically goes: 1st/1st-over, 2nd/2nd-over, 3rd/3rd-over.

Here's the two sites I get info from on them:
http://www.usgear.com/dual_range.htm  1.25:1/1:1 UD unit, 1:1/0.8:1 OD unit
http://www.gearvendors.com/  1:1/0.78:1 OD only


These are not cheap.. we're talking $2000-3000 here.

Anyway.. I've been toolin' around the Net for weeks, looking up transmission ratios for all sorts of transmissions. AOD/AOD-E, 4R70W, C4/C6.. all have a pretty bland set of ratios. I even have a little spreadsheet where I can plug in all the gear ratios twice, plug in each over/under ratio, plug in the rear gear, and it'll tell me final drive ratios for everything. Can do some decent stuff with a 25% underdrive splitter, but nothing that most of you would probably think of as truly mind-boggling. We're talking about the equivalent of turning a 4.10 rear into a 3.27, etc. (rough estimate, please don't flip on the math.. I picked the closest rear gears I knew of)

Anyway, I still like the idea of making an 8-speed out of an AOD.. I like the idea even more of getting maybe a 4R70W with an aftermarket control unit like Baumann's and then splitting that. But I took the idea a bit past that.

I started to look into manual transmissions. T5? Meh, 10 possible speeds.. that's getting into bicycle and/or semi territory there. Too much. (they even attach them to ZF 6-speeds.. talk about sick) So then I had an old school moment, and thought about the good old 4-speed stick. Toploader? Not on the list. So what IS on the list?

The T19. A freakin' truck transmission. Three versions I could find, one having a 6.32:1 1st gear, and a 3.09:1 2nd. With a 2.73 rear and that 6.32:1 1st, we're talking a 17.2536 final in 1st. Putting in the numbers for an '87 TC w/ T5 (3.97:1 1st) and 3.55s, (thanks Shawn) :p I get a 14.0935. Hell, even a T5 1st going into 4.10s yields a final drive of 16.277. Now it's entirely possible that my math is on crack here.. I haven't set foot in a school since the late '80s, and that kind of thing does deteriorate over time..

Yes, I was actually researching ways this beast could be shoved into a Fox-body.. but I'm past the point of "I wanna do this" and into the realm of "what the hell".. seeing how far I can push this. It has gone into the realm of comedy, at least for me.

If I ever did a semi-crazy manual swap, I think I'd want to try for a T56. FordMuscle just did a write-up on putting one into an older Mustang. Don't know how well it would go, but what the hell.. :evilgrin:

(and for those of you thinking, "Didn't he say he was tired of manuals? Well, yes I am, mostly. Ten years of floggin' gears in a '94 Escort LX might do it to you, too. But now I have three cars with AODs in them.. I might allow myself one stick. The thought also occured to me because my fiance doesn't know how to drive a stick.. and I jokingly threatened to turn the Mark into a 6-speed so she could't drive it.. heh)

BTW, for extra-credit silliness:

The T19 apparently has two PTO ports. Feel free to indulge yourself thinking of bizarre shiznit you could do with a power take-off on a car. In reality, I would guess "not much".. but this is bordering on sheer unreality here. :p

my turn now...i could come up with stuff for hours

#1-Building a 3.8L

#2-i wanted a pair of these exhaust tips on the car:
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/tcn-t809_w.jpg

#3-at one point, i actually wanted to put a small aluminum wing on my car

#4-around the same point in time, i wanted to put dual fart cans on the car, not large ones, some small ones, but fart cans none-the-less

#5-Building a 3.8L

#6-i wanted to pull out the back seat, pretty much guy the car, run two fiberglass bucket seats, and make a pretty much race ready car...for the street...with a 3.8L

thats it for now

You forgot "building a 3.8".. :p

The T5 swap....without changing the rear gears (2.73). I dont know but im 51% sure that the car can pull his heavy ass at 1500 rpms at higway speeds (60mph)......i never seen a Fox body car with a T5 and the 3.8....

EDIT:
Ups. i forget...drop the Top and make a conv.....

1: lime green

2: hydraulics

3: 429 thunderjet

4: Chrome Chrome Chrome

And thats not even the 'bad' stuff!

I have been toying with the idea of removing the 10 disc cd changer from the trunk and replacing it with a mac-mini, using a mini touch screen flush mounted where the window switches are in the center console. Relocating the window switches to the doors, using my current factory mach 460 sound system and radio but with the itunes operating in "cd"mode. Using my bluetooth nokia 6620 as a remote, and as a gprs modem for getting online.

works well with the SO actually.....

I"ve been toying with the idea of turning my GS into a Truck.

(http://www.baxo.ca/cougar/cxt.jpg)

DO IT!!!!!!!

Pick up an old Ranger bed/tailgate and have at it.  I've been contemplating building a replica of the '81 Ford Durango....but I need another project like I need a hole in the head.


The stupidest thing I contecmplated for the Tbird was painting it bright yellow......glad I came to my senses... :crazy:
Speaking of which, if the weather holds off I might have the 83 back from paint as early as tomorrow  :hick:

Ummm, I always wanted to put a 5.0 into a Turbo Coupe..... OH wait, I've done that. 

How bout a 351 stroked to 406?? (I'm actually havin doubts about it).

A parallel twin turbo setup on the TC. :shakehead

This is before I learned such things as, 'minimum required exhaust preasure'.

My thoughts went in the opposite direction..

That's right, a wagon. *hangs head in shame*

Don't feel too bad about that one. I'm sure Carmen might have something to say about this. ;)

(http://www.foxthundercats.com/t_wagon2.jpg)
(http://www.foxthundercats.com/t_wagon.jpg)

Yeah, I know about that pic. I wasn't thinking of something quite so involved, though. (like in the rear side windows, etc.) Something like this would be my inspiration:

You've got a couple of cars sitting around the yard...get crackin'.

bird351.. tha'ts not a wagon.. that's more like a hearse ;)

Still haven't changed from yesterday, huh?

It's a '77.. no gas tank problems.

But seeing as I drove a -brown '78 Pinto back in high school, I'm used to such comments. :p

Mine i wanted to get neons on the bottom and find a neon that was like 2-3 inches and put it behind my cougar head in the grill. I also wanted to rip off the 20th anny badges and make them Clear but keep the head and scipture and backlight those. oh and the 3rd i wanted a body kit for it, if i get another cougar / tbird i might do the GFX.

Hey guys,
I don't know if I'd use the term "stupid" for my wish list, unless you count how stupid I'd be for spending the money I don't seem to have to put all this stuff in my car.  Here goes (this is for my '84 LS V6 Cougar, by the way):

1a)  either a complete intercooled 2.3T drivetrain, including the TC hood, 8.8 rear w/ 3.73 and quad shocks, 5-speed, heck, even the electronic ride control

or

1b)  a HO 5.0, again with a TC rear end, 5-speed

2)  complete Mark VII LSC heated leather interior treatment (according to Eric, all the seats are a direct swap)

3)  vent-window doors (I just love those)

4)  if I have to keep the 3.8, I still plan to put an AOD floor-shifter in it and can the column-shift column (it'll have a floor shift regardless of the drivetrain)

5)  put a non-column-shift column in with my '88 TC wheel, complete with Cougar horn button

6)  dual TC electric fans

7)  '83 TC gage cluster with tach (don't you just love the '83/'84 dashes?)

8)  (already got these) TC 16" snowflake wheels with 225/55R16 Cooper Z-rated tires (you never know, that 3.8 might actually need them!!!)

9)  a honkin' sound system, which I mostly have, but it's just not all assembled into one cohesive unit; I plan to use the factory Premium Sound switch in the dash to turn my own amp on/off (run the blue Amp On/Off wire from the head unit thru the dash switch)

I basically want a "stealth" luxury Cougar (souped up, but with all the buttons, gadgets, and leather).  An LS(C)/XR7, you might say.  Of course, a fresh paint job would be in order, and repair of all the 21-year old rust.  Not a bad list for somebody totally broke, huh?

Fordman3

Ahh, the silly things one comes up with in high school - I would still love to do that someday (the roof would be removable).

One of the other foolish things I'd like to do is a complete 4wd/awd setup. In a few years, when the Exploders with the independent rears become cheap and plentiful in junkyards, I'd like to mount a Thunderbird/Cougar body onto the 4X4 chassis. I'd channel it so the car didn't sit up too high, but it'd still be much higher than a stock  Bird/Cat and sit on 31" tires. The drivetrain would be stock Explorer (4.6, 5-speed auto, electronic 4WD) - That way I could still have my T-Bird in the winter :D

I've also always considered a modern interpretation of the Ranchero. The wheelbase would have to be lengthened and all, but it'd be cool. Maybe with a set of tandem rear axles... hell, amybe on that aforementioned 4X4 chassis. I even thought it'd be cool to retain the Bird's quarter windows as a set of "flying buttresses"...

And then there's the no-holds-barred, fmoney-is-no-object, build-the-perfect-Fox dream:

1987-88 Cougar
Complete AWD setup w/ Lightning supercharged 5.4 and 6-speed manual tranny
Complete custom floorpan and chassis to allow for the AWD and independent rear

This one would sit lower than stock and would perform like a supercar. Remember, spare no expenses. I'd see to it that it outperformed an Enzo :D

And back to your original post, Bird351: The 84-90 Corvette had a "4+3" standard tranny that was a four-speed with an overdrive unit. Overdrive could only be accessed in 2nd, 3rd and 4th - hence the "4+3" - they kept this system until they got the T56 (No Vette ever had a 5-speed)

Now I have something that would probably make some people mad. Ok first off let me tell you the condition of my Bird, the gas tank strap mount came off in a big chunk of rust about the size of my fist so now I cant put a new strap on there, I also had a jack stand go through a spot that it shouldnt have(right behind the lower control arm for the rear axle), big rust holes in the trunk, door, fender, and other various places plus I think the cars trying to tell me to kill it since its starting run like .

Ok now for the weird part. I had been talking about sping the car seeing how would have trouble getting $150 out of it just trying to sell it. A freind of mine told me to take it out to the woods and run the piss out of it. I considered it. Then I remembered seeing a picture of a Bird sitting on a truck frame with a set of 38in tires. I'm actually thinking about doing this since I can get a hold of a truck frame rather easily and dont really want to get rid of the car(my first car).

Isnt it a ford version of an El Cami-Bird?  :giggle:

That would be original......
The worst part to admit is, it looks good..... :D

lsc front grill/panel. Twin inline 6's with Twin superchargers.(if one could fit, why not two? :D ) cherry bomb lers so ricers will race me. Painting everything on the inside either a deep blood red or black leather. Most would be black, the red would accent it. Painting the mirriors and the outside black, and replaceing all of the chrome with red. dropping it down a couple of inches. The biggest fattest assed tires that I could find for the back, and 13's really skinny in the front.  front and side skirts for a 87 tbird. Custom back bumper to match the 87 tbird rear end. sheilded tesla coil with a frequency thingy to specify  certain objects. light up cougar emblems all around with a dark red glow. and leave the engine compleately stock so I dont wreck it.

OK, time for my next "stupid" idea:

I confess, this idea came to me just before Oldraven and I stopped talking, and the idea is partially his fault. :p You'll see why.

I gave some serious consideration to converting my '88 to propane/LPG.

I actually did a ton of reading on this.. everything I could get my hands on, via dozens of Google searches. Unfortunately, most propane info is A) for vehicles outside the US, B) for truck conversions, and C) for (older) carbed engines. I had intended to leave the 5.0 EFI for this. Worse, there seems to be a lack of clarity when it comes to terminology. "Bi-fuel" and "dual fuel" are often switched in usage. Really confusing when you're trying to research the details of running one fuel or the other, (but being able to run either on the same car) or running (mixing) both fuels at once.

I did learn a few interesting things, like that MSD also makes stuff specifically for alternative-fuel setups. (and not just multi-spark boxes, apparently) Also found toroidal- (doughnut-) shaped tanks that would seem to be a better fit for car use than most cylinders. (if nothing else, you can put a toroidal tank in the spare tire location) Even ran across a twin-turbo Corvette on propane, somewhere. Crazy.. but that got me to thinkin'..

Started thinking about the possibility of mixing propane and gasoline on a (centrifugal) supercharged EFI engine.. hoping to take advantage of the propane's low temperatures in the process, by injecting the propane as close to the outlet of the supercharger as possible. (giving it a little time to cool the air) I've even seen other discussions on it elsewhere, if I recall.. but I think their main concern was having all that fuel in the intake if there was a backfire.

Anyway, I don't know that anything would ever come of all my reading. It would be nice to have a car that ran on either and/or both at once.. just to do something unusual.. but it seems like I need a lot more info. (and some disposable income)

My stepfather 2001 f 250 runs on  propane :america: its not an easy conversion

Awesome.  :bowdown:

That's true. The plug and play setups, (fuel system plus a carb) are for non FI systems. There are a lot of FI systems for trucks, though, since they are most commonly used on fleet vehicles and work trucks. They can be expensive, but they are out there, and plentiful. I'm not running a dual fuel, just liquid propane. Although the lower fuel temps and super high octane can let you get away with leaded fuel compression ratios and up to 14* of timing advance, there is still a loss of power.

That's why I too thought about using a gasoline injection setup. Not continuous, though, just for quick bursts to get the full power out of the compression and timing. I'd have to find out what kind of effect this has, though. I don't actually know of any vehicles running liquid propane with gasoline injection.

imagine running a car with a carb, and running a tesla set to the ford computer setting. Could you imagine running from the cops like that? They would get close and their car would shut off.

I don't remember, did you go looking for a cam for it specifically for running on propane? I recall people mentioning they exist.. don't remember much else about it.

I couldn't tell you what cam is in the motor. That's the beauty of how I lucked out on this one. I bought the entire truck, with the newly rebuilt motor already setup for propane with new pistons head modifications and stroked. This was all a surprise. I just thought it was an old 350, and bought it for the propane carb and fuel system. :hick:

Can you contact the previous owner to find out? Might be worth looking into. I don't remember how you said you got it. Hell, right now I don't remember much of anything. Been in pain for four days straight, so I popped a Vicodin.. between that and the concentration problems, tonight I'm somewhere between here and Mars.  :crazy: May not have been formally diagnosed, but I'm pretty sure I ended up inheriting this  disease.  :mad:

Heh.. thinking more about the propane thing again for my own uses.. like keeping my 351 and using that as the propane burner. Not gonna happen for some time, though. I wouldn't do it until I could afford a good-sized toroidal tank, (probably laid flat in the trunk) and to stroke out that 351 and otherwise fix it up a bit. Could be interesting under the hood of the LSC. :evilgrin:

I didn't actually buy it from the previous owner. My brother's boss, Kevin, bought an '06 C20 3/4tonne plus from a customer who wasn't willing to fix the old truck. I bought it off him for $500 (the motor ended up being worth twice that w00t) and that's all the history I've got, unfortunately.

I think the 351 lp carb idea is prime. As long as you have access to a propane shack, you're golden. If you put high comp pistons in it, and stroke the thing, you'll pretty much have the Ford version of my motor. Torque Monster! And you'll spend a fraction as much on fuel as you do with your 3.8L T-bird. :D

I know I could just toss that carbed 351 into one of these three cars and convert it to propane relatively easy. (compared to what I want to do) The thing is, though.. I'd like to go EFI with it.. and go dual-fuel, too. (even if I get rid of the 22 gallon tank and put maybe an aftermarket 10 gallon or something like that) I know it complicates things tremendously.. but this is not a project I would do unless I were able to go all the way with that. Probably why this idea ended up in the "stupid" thread. :D

EDIT: BTW, have you found this guy yet?

http://www.propaneguy.com/

He has some propane cams listed for SBC, and it looks like he's in Canada, as well.

Back from the dead!

Another confession.. I thought about the possibility of fabbing up RX8-inspired suicide doors on a Bird, (probably a "4-eyed" Bird for the smaller side windows) for someone who needs better back seat access, but still wants a fun car to play around with.. like one of my local friends, who's having a bitch of a time getting their baby seat in the back of my old 2-door Escort. He's getting a 4-door car from an in-law, though.

Might talk him into tracking down an old LTD LX or something, one of these days.. or maybe a 4-door Fairmont.

I'm also thinking about a way to rig a solar panel, (about $30) a PC case fan, (of which I have plenty) and a small air duct (if needed) to pull air through the interior of the car during the day to try and cool it down while the windows are still closed.

My A/C really isn't so great. I know I should bite the bullet and have the system leak tested, flushed, converted to 134 and that condenser being talked about in a thread in Misc Tech right now, and just be done with it.. but it'll still leave the car boiling hot inside when I first get into it. Normally I try to put down the windows for awhile before I have to go pick my aunt up from work, but that's not always a good idea with the sudden rain showers we get during the summer.. when I most need the extra cooling.

The line of thought keeps getting derailed by lots of things, though. Where to put the fan.. where to put a duct and an exhaust for it.. whether or not the inlet vents default to open.. whether or not to make the system more complex, like having the solar panel and fan hooked to the rest of the car's electrical system, and running the fan by thermostat or timer.. that sorta thing. Will I ever try it? Maybe.. but it doesn't look very good right now.

I like this idea!

Pansies. I was doing roofing in 95 degree weather without a cloud in the sky yesterday, Wearing my trench coat! Summer really isnt that bad!(I guess it could be alittle worse with humidity, vs dry desert air.)

 Believe it or not they actually have these already. My mom had one for her car, it fit onto the top of a side window and was locked into place when you rolled the window up.

I know they have the window mount ones.. I was thinking of something where the fan and the duct were hidden, and just the solar panel sat maybe right in front of the third brake light or something.

What about a Cosworth T-Bird.  It would be one and only!

You know what's wrong with this thread? It has me still considering all this shiznit. Hell, I might even do two or three to the same  car, at this rate. Propane/dual-fuel, boosted I6, and the "sedan delivery" bit. Of course, we're talking several years in the future when money will be likely more plentiful around here.. but hey, plenty of time to plan. :p

Found this site for a little bit of inspiration:
http://www.pestalozzi.net/sb/a_index.html

Stuff like this takes balls: (and a lot of $$$)
(http://www.pestalozzi.net/sb/am_vantage/vantage_420.jpg)
Aston Martin V8 Vantage

(http://www.pestalozzi.net/sb/bentley_arnage/arnage_400.jpg)
Bentley Arnage

Well, if these are photochops, I'll feel stupid.. but still..

Resurrected once again.

I've always wanted to do a fold-down rear seat in my Mark VII.  My first car was a Plymouth Duster with that option and it was great because I could put my bike back there.  The reason its a "stupid" idea is that I now have a truck to haul my bike or anything too big for the trunk.  I have absolutely no need for a fold-down rear seat, but I think it would be really cool if I had one that looked factory.  Stupid!:crazy:

Are you serious? Or was that a joke? I'm really asking this, lol.

I've got a T5 on an SO and it works really well. It runs out of wind at about 3500-4000 RPM, but before that it pulls like a freight train. Well, maybe that's not a good comparison, as freight trains aren't particularly quick ;) It works much better than it did with the auto though. It'll pull itself up any grade in 5th gear without losing speed. The 3.55 gears probably help it out a bit too. Still, as good as it works I'll still be doing the HO upgrade this winter...

You want an outlandish idea?

I've contemplated suede paint and old style steel wheels for the Cougar -- Something like these:

(http://www.hotrodhanks.com/imagesProducts2/3628.jpg)

Albeit with decent tires ;)

And yes -- Black suede/satin with red pinstripe :burnout:

Wow, I wish I knew about this a couple years ago.
I know this won't have the same reaction anymore, but here it goes..

I'm going to totally rebuild my Cougar from the ground up.

I think I deserve the grand prize in doing stupid things. :hick:

^^^:rollin::rollin::rollin:

Mine is to rip out the back seat, then make a speaker enclosure that sits flush with the rear package tray, coming forward just enough to allow full rearwards travel of the front seats, and follow the angle of the backs of the front seats, then cover the enclosure in matching grey carpet, and load it up with a half dozen or so 12" subs.

The only thing keeping me from this is:
It's the VERY least of priorities, both with the Tbird, and life in general...weight...and practicality of the car. I still just might need a backseat...

Another thing...banana yellow paint, with lime green stripes, Shelby style...:flip:

heres mine,
yanking out the 2.3l from the tc and replacing it with a 5.4l DOHC. and then bolting on twin 80mm turbos (that way its still a turbo coupe.

I also resently looked in to getting a custom set of 17 or 18 inch snowflakes made. but when i was quoated $4000 for a set of four, i desided I'd stick with the rod lites.

Also presently looking in to fiberglass front clip, doors, and trunk lid. Aluminum head, bigger turbo, Mega squirt computer, full cage, tube k-member, with coil overs on all 4 corners. 100hp hit of n2o, and keeping it street legal.

The crazy thing is that in the very near future, I will have the money to do the first or therd option, or a mix of both. Still dont see spending 4k on wheels though.

And lastly, the idea of a buick 455ci under the hood still makes me giggle.

I'll more than likely get flamed for this but I want to take the turbo four auto out of my Cougar and drop in a 300ish Hp SBF along with a T-5 and at some point an 8.8" rear.

After that I want to lower it, add some rims of some sort and paint it lastly I want to reupholster it.

I was thinking bout installing an electric air compressor for tires,air shocks,flotation stuff at the lake,etc.Just something powerful,small.

Also,my hood light has long been discarded by someone other than myself.Well,I was looking under the hood of an F-150,and got that hood light.It mounts up and has a long spring loaded cord so you can check the tires or whatever.Cool part I didn't know existed.

Maroon seat inserts, they should be black.

Rodlites for a daily driver.

4cyl T5 behind 5.0.

Non world class T5 behind anything.

Considered a SROD because it was cheap, I'm sure that would've been a disaster.

I've done lots of silly things. One that comes to mind was putting chrome valve covers on a 3.8 I had in a fox marquis.

I figured, what the heck. I needed to do valve cover gaskets, why not order some chinese ebay chrome valve covers?

CoogarXR

I have one from a late 80's Chevy truck...has the little reel you use to roll it back up...mighty handy ;)

i cant think of anything stupid per se, working AC would be nice though and some black turbines with centercaps, a better CD player and a couple subs and amp in the trunk and a really good wax job

I have had alot of crazy ideas in years past. Luckily, common sense prevailed.

Less than 2 years ago I actually measured to see if twin turbos would fit in the trunk of my 87 TC 460. Then I would run the compressor pipes to the carb under the carpet up to and thru the firewall. It would actually work. :D

Then, I said to myself there is no way I am hacking the trunk floor on my TC.

I bought a Procharger instead for the 460 which might be more insane since it is designed to fit a BB Chevy.....

Put one of my Mustang AOD transmissions behind my 2.3 in my '86. It doesn't require any electronics, I've already sourced my adapter plate and flexplate...just don't know if there's a crossmember that would work..lol...:hick:

My dad had an SROD behind a carbed 70's van. It ate tranny's like no tommorrow. Alot of the time it would burn out the clutch because the shifters would break off and I had to drive 15 miles in 3rd or 4th.. I belive that to be a 1:1 and 4th being a .83 or something like that. With the 2.73 rear end, it took a bit to get to the point I could release the clutch.

My silly ideas:

Volvo 2.9 Turbocharged I6

or

Ausie 4.0 Turbocharged I6

Plus a T-56 6speed

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

I am accumulating parts for a car I do not own and do not know when I am buying as of yet. I am thinking of stuff to do to the future white 88 XR7 like black or 20th anniversary wheels, black grille, black and or gold striping, rear wing dark tint, HO upper intake, and maybe a T5 conversion.

I think that prism-patterned tape you can put on the window trim would look very sparkly on my car, once I get it painted. I also think a nice graphic for the back window and a graphic kit on the sides would give it that white trash look I'm going for. I may not be able to resist rhinestones around the door handles.

Roll down rear windows. (like a Galaxie) I had a dream about it once.

Hmmm. Mine roll down. ;)

do you even have a whole window back there? :rollin:

A mark VII flip up trunk lock cover with a modified logo

Pretty much
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/85%20Vert/IMG_6616.jpg)

ehhh...yours aren't bolted into the body:D

well, if you bolt them. You can't lower them. lol

Stupidest thing I ever considered was buying a moonroof equipped Sport. Gave me a big hard on when I first found it...now I absolutely detest it, pretty much the whole f*ckin' car  me off.

#2 would be tearing it all apart, throwing a HO, T5, and TC 8.8 into the rather gutted shell, driving it just enough to crave even more power, and then not having ANY motivation, time or money to finish it.

Yup, gotta love a 20+ year old car that nobody other than ourselves like, that has little to zero aftermarket support, and is pretty  lame compared to today's automotive art.

Where can I find another Fox??? ;):rollin:

something tells me that if you look around here in the spring you might find one ;)

Thats whats currently in my cat, only with a 5.0 H0.  Its a dog at low speed but can still bark the tires.  Cruising on the freeway is a breeze.  I have a 8" w/ 3.73s in the garage that I never finished building.

Dude, I might have to sig quote that:rollin:

my stupidest thing i ever did or thought of?  how bout everything I ever did to my '85.  man looking a pics of that car now....  I hate it.

Stupid, maybe not so stupid...

I thought it would be cool to have a mount for a small GPS unit where the digital clock in between the air vents is, complete with charger so you could remove the unit if you wanted.

Planned on the same thing, I thought it would be cool. I want to make a bracket that attavhes to the stock clock bracket, then gets a gps mount attached to it, that would be flush with the face of the dash, then the gps would attach to that, and appear to be part of the dash.

The only problem was that it would have to have an auto on/off feature tied into the cars accessory switch, and some units don't have that ability.

I used to have a little 3.5" unit that would have been perfect....

alright here it goes.....

1. Exterior= wide body kit,chop the top about 6 inches,3 inch suspension drop,projector style HID's,led's for the rear,mini tubs,9" and 4 link,17's up front and 18's in the rear.
and for paint, sinister black on black. no chrome please

2. Drivetrain= twin turbo small block on dual staged nitrous,6 speed manual.and AWD.

3. Interior= gut the rear seat and build a mini wall with 4 alpine 12" type R,4 1k watt amps,custom door panels to fit a 8" mid bass a 51/4 mid range and a 1 tweet along with the x-over. touch screen deck with full display of engine management. Recarro race buckets,5 point harness,full leather all in black with red stitching.

and there it is, some day some how I might get the interior part

I always wanted to raise the hood and see a nice eng compartment filled with a black wrinkled Cobra dressed, and hitt'n hard small block with a low rise dual 4's....




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I think I'm gonna experiment with this. I've got an extra...Idk what to call it. It's got the vents and the cutouts for the clock and speedometer, like we were talking about.

I'll do some measurements and we'll see what happens. But first, gotta locate my GPS....(irony).

"dash trim panel";)

'least that's what I call it...

Works for me! :mullet:

I don't think it's a stupid idea,but,I want the third brake light in the trunk lid above the lock.I'm working on that idea right now.

Hey while your at it I've got a nice big curved piece of chrome you can stick there...

I don't know anyone big enough to make that happen.LOL.

maybe a light from a spoiler? thats a cool idea though.

I think I found the one I need.I'm just doing some thinking about it.

ive recently thought about doing a shaker hood...in fact im still thinking of it...

Hey vinnie our cars were made right from the factory. They really don't need anything extra back there cluttering up all the space. Its just overkill. In fact, I think you should just take everything off. Yeah thats it go with the smooth look.:flame:









Ok. Smart-assing aside, thats a pretty cool idea. I'd like to see it.

i had another brain fart...t-roofing the cat...

............I don't know about that but I did at one time want gull wing doors on the cougar and lambo's on my 96...

 


hmm...gull wings...:hick:you might have somethin there.

I've got to finish it first. Still no crazy thoughts. Doesn't everyone by a roted to death bird part it out then go get another one with an auto tranny when you wanted a stick strip that one and make it what you want. A 351 Windsor and 5 speed strip all wires and computers out hang pedals and do it all in two weeks 4 cyl to 5.8 in the first week of August outside in my driveway? I think the sun got to me I had fun and the car rocks.:burnout:


Don't Know How to post video but its on facebook:crazy:  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1285004058&v=app_2392950137 some vids?

umm post a link to your facebook lol

Doe's it work?

brings me to your facebook but i see no vids...

QUOTE=Thunder Bantam;348426]brings me to your facebook but i see no vids...[/QUOTE]
 
It worked for me cause I was logged in I can build a car a house and make a baby but a computer can still out smart me right untill I pull the plug  :banana:

nice lol

 
Pffft, Cats dont have wings. Birds on the hand... :grinno:

are worth more on the bush?:rollin:

D'oh, Forgot the "other". :p