Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on April 07, 2010, 07:05:20 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on April 07, 2010, 07:05:20 PM
I know I'm not the only one with a worn out center console panel. And while I have a beautiful mint NIB queued for installation, the never ending mission creep on the car dictates I do something more.
I want a backlit panel so it's easier to see at night, and I've figured out a how to do it. The problem is the problem of production, the way to do it economically depends on quantity. Which brings up the question of how many?
Would you like a backlit center console panel, yes/no?
*update*
The instrument panel place dropped the ball. So I'm going with the CNC shop I've been using. They do great work and have been instrumental in getting the car done, engine parts, suspension parts, interior parts, everything's been top notch. The only problem is they're running behind so it will be at least a month, I'm guessing, once they get the materials.
There are lots of variables to confuse the issue - materials, machining, finish, mounting, lighting etc., so I'll try to keep it as simple as possible. If you have any questions, let me know.
The minimum run is 10 units. Cost for the initial run will be $50/unit. Price drops to $40/unit after 20 units.
*update*
running count by design:
mirror and windows only - 2
one power seat - 2
two power seats - 6
other (be specific) - 1
Vinnie(1), Daminc(2), Kit Katz(1), Quietleaf(1), jkirchman,(2) 87tbirdmanjwg(1)
I want a backlit panel so it's easier to see at night, and I've figured out a how to do it. The problem is the problem of production, the way to do it economically depends on quantity. Which brings up the question of how many?
Would you like a backlit center console panel, yes/no?
*update*
The instrument panel place dropped the ball. So I'm going with the CNC shop I've been using. They do great work and have been instrumental in getting the car done, engine parts, suspension parts, interior parts, everything's been top notch. The only problem is they're running behind so it will be at least a month, I'm guessing, once they get the materials.
There are lots of variables to confuse the issue - materials, machining, finish, mounting, lighting etc., so I'll try to keep it as simple as possible. If you have any questions, let me know.
The minimum run is 10 units. Cost for the initial run will be $50/unit. Price drops to $40/unit after 20 units.
*update*
running count by design:
mirror and windows only - 2
one power seat - 2
two power seats - 6
other (be specific) - 1
Vinnie(1), Daminc(2), Kit Katz(1), Quietleaf(1), jkirchman,(2) 87tbirdmanjwg(1)
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on April 07, 2010, 07:44:30 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on April 07, 2010, 07:44:30 PM
Yes,for dual power seats.............if the price isn't to prohibitive.I'm guessing a thin,clear replacement panel for the console plate with a black overlay,and then install some kind of light from the bottom to illuminate it. Am I close? Getting the holes cut just right is important. Also,the panel is recessed for the power mirror buttons.That could be tricky,but not impossible by any means. Let's run with it.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on April 07, 2010, 09:49:58 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on April 07, 2010, 09:49:58 PM
That's one way. At least one downside to that method is the overlay durability. My source says that they last 1-2 years, ASSuming no deliberate damage is inflicted on them.
Right now I'm waiting on a bid from an aircraft panel mfgr. Without a doubt it will be too much, but I'm going to ask anyway.
Right now I'm waiting on a bid from an aircraft panel mfgr. Without a doubt it will be too much, but I'm going to ask anyway.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: mcb82gt on April 08, 2010, 08:44:43 AM
Post by: mcb82gt on April 08, 2010, 08:44:43 AM
Interesting idea. Following this thread.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on April 08, 2010, 08:51:58 AM
Post by: daminc on April 08, 2010, 08:51:58 AM
I'm thinking a clear film with a laser printed overlay may work to some degree too. My friend who does the vinyl lettering/graphics is looking into the laser printer for his graphics.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on April 08, 2010, 09:12:26 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on April 08, 2010, 09:12:26 AM
I was thinking an overlay to replace the aluminum "insert" that is stuck to the console panel.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: ProTouring442 on April 08, 2010, 09:57:19 AM
Post by: ProTouring442 on April 08, 2010, 09:57:19 AM
How about making the panel from a slightly thicker piece of Lexan, paint the top black, then have the writing machined into it. When back-lit, the writing will glow.
Shiny Side Up!
Bill
Shiny Side Up!
Bill
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on April 08, 2010, 10:06:41 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on April 08, 2010, 10:06:41 AM
That's what I'm talking about.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on April 08, 2010, 01:04:04 PM
Post by: daminc on April 08, 2010, 01:04:04 PM
paint the bottom black and have it cnc'd from the bottom
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on April 08, 2010, 05:13:18 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on April 08, 2010, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: ProTouring442;317461
How about making the panel from a slightly thicker piece of Lexan, paint the top black, then have the writing machined into it. When back-lit, the writing will glow.
yup, that's one way
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paint the bottom black and have it cnc'd from the bottom
yup, that's one way
I've asked about having the whole thing cnc'd from plastic.
I've asked about having the whole thing cnc'd from a plastic/metal laminate.
And there are a couple of others as well, e.g. painted/coated electroluminescent sheet.
The trick will be to do it economically.
****** also ******
It would be nice to have at least a pic of each layout. How many combinations are there, 5? 6? 8? More?
windows, mirrors
windows, mirrors, DS seat
windows, mirrors, both seats
others?
Then there are the 'vert Cougar connversions, how many combinations are there of those?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on April 08, 2010, 06:10:23 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on April 08, 2010, 06:10:23 PM
I would start with two designs,the most popular,which are the typical single and dual power seat panels.Then,if it works out,branch out from there.You have to tend to the masses first.The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on April 08, 2010, 06:18:59 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on April 08, 2010, 06:18:59 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;317501
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Can't argue with that logic, Spock.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on April 08, 2010, 06:28:14 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on April 08, 2010, 06:28:14 PM
I didn't know if you'd catch that little quote or not.LOL.Live long....and prosper.Now,get some pricing quotes.It'll have to be pretty thin and durable (I'm talking about the console inlay).
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: 88turbo on April 08, 2010, 06:59:46 PM
Post by: 88turbo on April 08, 2010, 06:59:46 PM
you caught my attention :D
Title: *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on June 07, 2010, 05:23:49 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 07, 2010, 05:23:49 PM
The instrument panel place dropped the ball. So I'm going with the CNC shop I've been using. They do great work and have been instrumental in getting the car done, engine parts, suspension parts, interior parts, everything's been top notch. The only problem is they're running behind so it will be at least a month, I'm guessing, once they get the materials.
There are lots of variables to confuse the issue - materials, machining, finish, mounting, lighting etc., so I'll try to keep it as simple as possible. If you have any questions, let me know.
The minimum run is 10 units. Cost for the initial run will be $50/unit. Price drops to $40/unit after 20 units.
There are lots of variables to confuse the issue - materials, machining, finish, mounting, lighting etc., so I'll try to keep it as simple as possible. If you have any questions, let me know.
The minimum run is 10 units. Cost for the initial run will be $50/unit. Price drops to $40/unit after 20 units.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on June 07, 2010, 05:48:23 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 07, 2010, 05:48:23 PM
I will take one for dual power seats.What will they look like? Can you give me an idea?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on June 07, 2010, 06:39:17 PM
Post by: daminc on June 07, 2010, 06:39:17 PM
I'm in for 2 ...... 1 dual, 1 single power seat.
definitely need to see a sample too
definitely need to see a sample too
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on June 07, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 07, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: daminc;324620
I'm in for 2 ...... 1 dual, 1 single power seat.
definitely need to see a sample too
Do you want one for your vert? If you would like the artwork specific to that car, I'll need a nice high-res picture, or some printer ready artwork.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on June 07, 2010, 07:57:16 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 07, 2010, 07:57:16 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;324613
I will take one for dual power seats.What will they look like? Can you give me an idea?
They're going to look as close to stock as possible, with just a few variations. There won't be any sharp interior corners (eg window control cutouts), they'll be slightly rounded. Smooth upper surface, machined on the underside. The font will be close to the factory, but not exact. All lines, arrows, wording and such will/can be included.
If you want to deviate from the factory design, that's possible too. I've added a couple of non-stock switches to the one I'm working on now, so at least one ones I'm keeping is going to be custom.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on June 07, 2010, 08:43:04 PM
Post by: daminc on June 07, 2010, 08:43:04 PM
Quote from: t3skidoo;324625
Do you want one for your vert? If you would like the artwork specific to that car, I'll need a nice high-res picture, or some printer ready artwork.
I'm putting in dual power seats, so the Carcraft logo would have to go. I'm moving the vert top switches to the dash to make room for the passenger seat switches. a stock looking panel would be fine
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on June 07, 2010, 09:37:54 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 07, 2010, 09:37:54 PM
Quote from: daminc;324629
a stock looking panel would be fine
roger
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on June 07, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 07, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
That sounds good to me.Set me up with a panel when you're ready.
Title: running count and time line
Post by: t3skidoo on June 08, 2010, 02:14:47 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 08, 2010, 02:14:47 AM
running count by design
mirror and windows only - 2
one power seat - 2
two power seats - 6
other (be specific) - 1
Last day to place an order July 6th. Will have a solid estimate on availability the following week. FYI, anything after that first order is going to be more expensive, not less.
mirror and windows only - 2
one power seat - 2
two power seats - 6
other (be specific) - 1
Last day to place an order July 6th. Will have a solid estimate on availability the following week. FYI, anything after that first order is going to be more expensive, not less.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on June 08, 2010, 06:43:00 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 08, 2010, 06:43:00 AM
I'm obligating myself to have one for the dual power seats no matter what.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on June 08, 2010, 07:22:44 AM
Post by: daminc on June 08, 2010, 07:22:44 AM
If they're stock looking (or very close to it) I'll buy one of each, unless I score another passenger power track in the next 2 weeks...... I'm definitely in for the 2
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: mustangbd24 on June 08, 2010, 07:29:43 AM
Post by: mustangbd24 on June 08, 2010, 07:29:43 AM
Are there any prototype pictures on these yet? Im interested.
Title: Center Console Panel
Post by: shaftdaniel on June 08, 2010, 12:33:59 PM
Post by: shaftdaniel on June 08, 2010, 12:33:59 PM
Subscribing.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Kitz Kat on June 08, 2010, 02:22:32 PM
Post by: Kitz Kat on June 08, 2010, 02:22:32 PM
1 dual power seat for me.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on June 08, 2010, 02:58:13 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 08, 2010, 02:58:13 PM
Vinnie, Daminc, Kit Katz, Quietleaf, jkirchman, 87tbirdmanjwg - you're included in the count.
There's no prototype yet. I'll be posting a pic when available, probably early next month.
There's no prototype yet. I'll be posting a pic when available, probably early next month.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on June 08, 2010, 04:19:54 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 08, 2010, 04:19:54 PM
Perfect timing for my Sport funds.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Quietleaf on June 08, 2010, 09:48:05 PM
Post by: Quietleaf on June 08, 2010, 09:48:05 PM
Please put me in for a dual power seats one :D
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on June 08, 2010, 11:16:41 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 08, 2010, 11:16:41 PM
I'm anxious to see a pic of it.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: jkirchman on June 09, 2010, 10:47:15 AM
Post by: jkirchman on June 09, 2010, 10:47:15 AM
I'd be interested in getting one for dual power seats. I, too, am anxious to see what these things are going to look like.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: sarjxxx on June 11, 2010, 05:41:46 PM
Post by: sarjxxx on June 11, 2010, 05:41:46 PM
Thers another design, too:
Mirrors.
and thats it. just mirrors. My last one had just mirrors. Thats how base my car is:grinno:
Will one of these fit the consolette? I might want one. I don't know if I'm gonna put power windows in though, so I can't commit just yet.
Mirrors.
and thats it. just mirrors. My last one had just mirrors. Thats how base my car is:grinno:
Will one of these fit the consolette? I might want one. I don't know if I'm gonna put power windows in though, so I can't commit just yet.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on June 11, 2010, 09:08:17 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 11, 2010, 09:08:17 PM
Quote from: sarjxxx;325043
Thers another design, too:
Mirrors.
and thats it. just mirrors. My last one had just mirrors. Thats how base my car is:grinno:
Will one of these fit the consolette? I might want one. I don't know if I'm gonna put power windows in though, so I can't commit just yet.
Sorry, I hadn't considered that one. My car universe is pretty discriminatory, there are only TCs (no offense intended, guys and gals).
As far as I know, that panel is the same shape for all cars with that console. (Somebody step in here if that's incorrect.)
It wouldn't be a problem having one made with just mirror controls, but obviously, I need to know that before they start cutting. You've got a few weeks to think about it.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on June 12, 2010, 07:06:52 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 12, 2010, 07:06:52 AM
There's a difference.The console equipped cars panel has a slight curve to it.The consolette panel is flat.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: sarjxxx on June 12, 2010, 11:52:24 AM
Post by: sarjxxx on June 12, 2010, 11:52:24 AM
Yeah, I thought so. Ok, don't worry about it then.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on June 12, 2010, 02:57:28 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 12, 2010, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;325092
There's a difference.The console equipped cars panel has a slight curve to it.The consolette panel is flat.
Vinnie, is that the only difference? IOW, did they start with the same piece then bend the ones for the console?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Kitz Kat on June 12, 2010, 03:25:39 PM
Post by: Kitz Kat on June 12, 2010, 03:25:39 PM
Quote from: t3skidoo;325151
Vinnie, is that the only difference? IOW, did they start with the same piece then bend the ones for the console?
It's not even close, totally different.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on June 12, 2010, 04:16:58 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 12, 2010, 04:16:58 PM
Yep...totally different.
Does that mean no panels for us?
Does that mean no panels for us?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on June 12, 2010, 05:55:45 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 12, 2010, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;325161
Yep...totally different.
Does that mean no panels for us?
It means no panels for sarjxxx (just yet).
The shape I'm getting made is an isosceles trapezoid with a Nike swooshstika-like arc in the profile of the plane that fits the center consoles found in TCs made after '84.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on June 12, 2010, 09:12:12 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 12, 2010, 09:12:12 PM
WOO-HOOOOOO !!! Happy Dance.So,tell me again when these should be ready. Are they supposed to light up? Yes,I know the info is in here,but I'm tired and don't feel like looking.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on June 12, 2010, 11:25:04 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 12, 2010, 11:25:04 PM
The Monday after July 4 I'll get the material cut and delivered to the CNC place. At that point, I'll tell them exactly what needs to be done, the engineer will take measurements, and create the CAM file. Then they'll give an ETA. They might run one to make sure everything fits properly, the prototype for show. My guess is they'll be ready in early August, but hopefully late July.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: 87tbirdmanjwg on June 13, 2010, 01:56:28 AM
Post by: 87tbirdmanjwg on June 13, 2010, 01:56:28 AM
I'll take one with dual power seats and one with no power seats if possible. Yep, my tbird has manual seats and the cougar has dual power seats.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Watchdevil on June 13, 2010, 02:54:30 AM
Post by: Watchdevil on June 13, 2010, 02:54:30 AM
You know I am seriously thinking of reverting back to my manual passenger seat track. The main reason is because I don't have the power track for the Tbird that includes the seat belt mount. It was a strangely different configuration on the Lincoln Continental I got it from which would have to be seen to understand. I had mounted the seat belt to the rear inner seat track bolt but I don't like it there that way. Further reinforcing my decision to swatch back is because I do not want to clutter my console with an odd arrangement of switches. Since I got the Mark VII automatic floor shifter my plan to house all the Tbird power switches within the SN-95 Mustang shift bezel had to be changed. I have plans now to include it all in the unused e-brake slot in the Mustang console, but i think the extra passenger power seat switch would be clutter. None of my new cars have a power passenger seat and if I had the actual Tbird spec power seat track I might reconsider leaving it and just relocating the seat switch along the side of the seat where it is on most cars these days.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on June 13, 2010, 06:41:40 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 13, 2010, 06:41:40 AM
I'm all giddy with excitement.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on June 13, 2010, 11:26:16 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on June 13, 2010, 11:26:16 PM
For you, Vinnie
http://tinyurl.com/2abz9zw
Watchdevil, do you need some encouragement?
http://tinyurl.com/2abz9zw
Watchdevil, do you need some encouragement?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Watchdevil on June 14, 2010, 12:59:13 AM
Post by: Watchdevil on June 14, 2010, 12:59:13 AM
Quote from: t3skidoo;325329
For you, Vinnie
http://tinyurl.com/2abz9zw
Watchdevil, do you need some encouragement?
Carly Simon is encouragement enough! I have always liked her!
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on June 14, 2010, 06:56:43 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on June 14, 2010, 06:56:43 AM
Quote from: t3skidoo;325329
For you, Vinnie
http://tinyurl.com/2abz9zw
Watchdevil, do you need some encouragement?
WOW,early 70's all over again.I was but a wee lad......and yes,I'm ready for the console plate.The Sport is more excited than I am.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Quietleaf on July 09, 2010, 12:29:05 AM
Post by: Quietleaf on July 09, 2010, 12:29:05 AM
Are there any updates on this?
As a side note, if anyone has access to CNC equipment, I've been mulling over an instrument cluster makeover for the basic (non-sport) cluster. My idea is to borrow the early-90's (92-ish) F150 fuel, temp, oil, and voltage gauges and make custom plates to cover the speedo and outer lights. The turn signals would have to be moved, most likely to below the speedo, but there are several potential choices. Anyway, long story short, I've been playing with a CAD program and I put together an IGES file for the speedo cover plate. It would sit between the F150 gauges and would give a clean look to it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?get0ajthyjt
This doesn't have turn signal cutouts, it's just the basic plate, in case anyone wants to take a look at it.
Here is a link to a free viewer for these files.
http://igsviewer.com/
As a side note, if anyone has access to CNC equipment, I've been mulling over an instrument cluster makeover for the basic (non-sport) cluster. My idea is to borrow the early-90's (92-ish) F150 fuel, temp, oil, and voltage gauges and make custom plates to cover the speedo and outer lights. The turn signals would have to be moved, most likely to below the speedo, but there are several potential choices. Anyway, long story short, I've been playing with a CAD program and I put together an IGES file for the speedo cover plate. It would sit between the F150 gauges and would give a clean look to it.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?get0ajthyjt
This doesn't have turn signal cutouts, it's just the basic plate, in case anyone wants to take a look at it.
Here is a link to a free viewer for these files.
http://igsviewer.com/
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on July 09, 2010, 12:37:10 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 09, 2010, 12:37:10 AM
I'll second that emotion..........................
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on July 09, 2010, 02:54:31 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on July 09, 2010, 02:54:31 PM
I apologize for the late posting.
There's a short delay in getting the material, it should be ready early next week. I'll post more details then.
There's a short delay in getting the material, it should be ready early next week. I'll post more details then.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on July 09, 2010, 03:11:45 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 09, 2010, 03:11:45 PM
I'm ready for mine.PM me AS SOON AS THEY ARE READY !!!!!!
Are they supposed be with a backlight,or no lights?Either way,I'm 100% in.
Are they supposed be with a backlight,or no lights?Either way,I'm 100% in.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on July 09, 2010, 07:48:29 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on July 09, 2010, 07:48:29 PM
Lighting is up to you.
I'd really like to do something with EL but that's a whole other set of issues.
I'd really like to do something with EL but that's a whole other set of issues.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on July 10, 2010, 06:52:23 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 10, 2010, 06:52:23 AM
No problem.The panel I still want.Just let me know when to pay and post a pic when possible.I'm getting anxious.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on July 12, 2010, 09:27:17 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 12, 2010, 09:27:17 PM
Tapping foot.........sweating........Mainly because I have to pee and it's really hot here.....but I am waiting for an update......mildly nagging.LOL.
Title: just for you, Vinnie
Post by: t3skidoo on July 14, 2010, 04:57:18 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on July 14, 2010, 04:57:18 PM
heading to the shop
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on July 14, 2010, 06:30:23 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 14, 2010, 06:30:23 PM
Shwingggg !!!!!!!!!
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on July 14, 2010, 07:47:28 PM
Post by: daminc on July 14, 2010, 07:47:28 PM
Bet Vinnie pee'd a little when he saw that. :rollin:
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on July 17, 2010, 01:13:50 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 17, 2010, 01:13:50 AM
I don't think that was pee.
Title: Update
Post by: t3skidoo on July 19, 2010, 08:18:15 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on July 19, 2010, 08:18:15 PM
The shop is going through their (annual) ISO audit this week, so things are going a bit slowly.
I took them three different console pieces to make measurements and do the design work. *ASSuming* no delays, the design will take a few days, and they can start cutting next week. That means they need to know what and how many by this Friday.
I'll PM everyone that's expressed interest to confirm exactly what you want. Based on Vinnie's other thread, I'm wondering how many people would like theirs without the striping?
I took them three different console pieces to make measurements and do the design work. *ASSuming* no delays, the design will take a few days, and they can start cutting next week. That means they need to know what and how many by this Friday.
I'll PM everyone that's expressed interest to confirm exactly what you want. Based on Vinnie's other thread, I'm wondering how many people would like theirs without the striping?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on July 19, 2010, 11:14:07 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 19, 2010, 11:14:07 PM
I want mine,no doubt. Dual power seats. With or without the striping (I like it without better).
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: jkirchman on July 20, 2010, 11:34:41 AM
Post by: jkirchman on July 20, 2010, 11:34:41 AM
Quote from: t3skidoo
They're going to look as close to stock as possible, with just a few variations. There won't be any sharp interior corners (eg window control cutouts), they'll be slightly rounded. Smooth upper surface, machined on the underside. The font will be close to the factory, but not exact. All lines, arrows, wording and such will/can be included.
I have a question for anyone that wants to answer. Isn't there a plastic panel under the stock metal console plate? That plastic has all of the cut outs for all available options and then the metal plate blocks off the options that were not installed on that particular car, correct?
If that is the case, wouldn't the plastic under the metal plate prevent any kind of back light from showing? How would one go about back lighting these new panels that Mr. T3skidoo is so graciously having made for us?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on July 20, 2010, 07:39:48 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 20, 2010, 07:39:48 PM
IF the panels would allow lights behind it,then just trim the plastic where needed to add the lights.No biggie,it's just plastic.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on July 20, 2010, 07:43:42 PM
Post by: daminc on July 20, 2010, 07:43:42 PM
I'm still in for the 2
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on July 21, 2010, 07:15:41 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 21, 2010, 07:15:41 AM
Will I have mine by tomorrow?That would be great.
Title: the "striping" is the problem
Post by: t3skidoo on July 21, 2010, 03:37:55 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on July 21, 2010, 03:37:55 PM
jkirchman,
The console is plastic. There are holes to allow the controls to mount. For a standard backlight, you would need to add or move a light underneath it and make some more holes. The one problem with that is the "striping". I don't think it's easily possible to have that backlit by cutting. An EL panel would solve that problem, or maybe the right combination of LEDs.
The console is plastic. There are holes to allow the controls to mount. For a standard backlight, you would need to add or move a light underneath it and make some more holes. The one problem with that is the "striping". I don't think it's easily possible to have that backlit by cutting. An EL panel would solve that problem, or maybe the right combination of LEDs.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on July 31, 2010, 08:51:44 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on July 31, 2010, 08:51:44 PM
Bump to the top.
Update my friend.
Update my friend.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: MY83T on July 31, 2010, 09:18:17 PM
Post by: MY83T on July 31, 2010, 09:18:17 PM
is it too late to get one of these? Is this the correct cut outs for the 83/84 console with the round power remote mirror opening? If so i need a dual power seat panel.....please let me know how much and where to send payment.....thanks! David
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 01, 2010, 10:44:06 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 01, 2010, 10:44:06 PM
Hi,
Sorry for the delay, Vinnie. Everything's on track. They've got the count, I've asked for a final design review before cutting, so will have an answer for you soon.
MY83T,
Maybe. Maybe not. PM sent, please respond asap
Sorry for the delay, Vinnie. Everything's on track. They've got the count, I've asked for a final design review before cutting, so will have an answer for you soon.
MY83T,
Maybe. Maybe not. PM sent, please respond asap
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: MY83T on August 02, 2010, 12:20:17 AM
Post by: MY83T on August 02, 2010, 12:20:17 AM
Quote from: t3skidoo;330327
Hi,
Sorry for the delay, Vinnie. Everything's on track. They've got the count, I've asked for a final design review before cutting, so will have an answer for you soon.
MY83T,
Maybe. Maybe not. PM sent, please respond asap
PM sent, thanks!
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on August 02, 2010, 12:26:07 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on August 02, 2010, 12:26:07 AM
No rush at all,but keep me in the loop.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 04, 2010, 10:46:32 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 04, 2010, 10:46:32 PM
Went by the shop today and saw the 'prototype' .. a piece of paper. It's been a long time since a piece of paper got me that excited [insert joke here].
If you have an 83-84 TC, now's the time to let me know if you want an insert. MY83T was nice enough to send his console so we could get correct measurements for those years.
Here's a question - Does anyone have a CAD font that matches the font used in our cars? I've got a Truetype that's very close, but Truetype apparently doesn't play well with CAD.
If you have an 83-84 TC, now's the time to let me know if you want an insert. MY83T was nice enough to send his console so we could get correct measurements for those years.
Here's a question - Does anyone have a CAD font that matches the font used in our cars? I've got a Truetype that's very close, but Truetype apparently doesn't play well with CAD.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: EricCoolCats on August 04, 2010, 11:05:16 PM
Post by: EricCoolCats on August 04, 2010, 11:05:16 PM
What is the file type for the font that CAD uses? I have a conversion program that may be able to help.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: 88turbo on August 04, 2010, 11:06:43 PM
Post by: 88turbo on August 04, 2010, 11:06:43 PM
I have an 83TC, what is the price range looking like?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Blackout on August 04, 2010, 11:55:00 PM
Post by: Blackout on August 04, 2010, 11:55:00 PM
So umm.... I might have missed this, but is there going to be one for the 87-88 models? I need one with dual power seats and all the fixins. Basically the fully loaded panel, minus that little cutout in the center that apparently had an alarm at one point
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 05, 2010, 04:38:31 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 05, 2010, 04:38:31 AM
Eric, I will ask.
88turbo, should be the same price as the others, eg $50 ea. If a few more people step up, the price will drop.
Blackout, I thought the 85-86s were the same as 87-88s. You want one w/ dual power seats, power windows, and mirror control, right?
88turbo, should be the same price as the others, eg $50 ea. If a few more people step up, the price will drop.
Blackout, I thought the 85-86s were the same as 87-88s. You want one w/ dual power seats, power windows, and mirror control, right?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on August 05, 2010, 07:39:45 AM
Post by: daminc on August 05, 2010, 07:39:45 AM
what's the diff between the 83-84 and the others?
here's what I got. I don't know what it came out of.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/85%20Vert/center%20console/IMG_0231.jpg)
Are you talking about the consoles with the rotary on them?
here's what I got. I don't know what it came out of.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/85%20Vert/center%20console/IMG_0231.jpg)
Are you talking about the consoles with the rotary on them?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: 88turbo on August 05, 2010, 08:40:03 AM
Post by: 88turbo on August 05, 2010, 08:40:03 AM
83-84 had the round mirror control and 85-88 has the square
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 05, 2010, 12:50:26 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 05, 2010, 12:50:26 PM
Eric, it looks like they use AutoCad.
daminc, that's the panel I assumed you needed (you're good)
daminc, that's the panel I assumed you needed (you're good)
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 05, 2010, 03:20:49 PM
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 05, 2010, 03:20:49 PM
I have a non-TC 83 and would be interested in the panel. My car was the base model with only the power mirrors. Is this panel a possibility? The one I have on there is in great shape as I bought it new back in '99 but one of the corners is starting to peel up.
Darren
Darren
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on August 05, 2010, 05:53:22 PM
Post by: daminc on August 05, 2010, 05:53:22 PM
I got another question..
The mirror switch on the panel is partially recessed into the console. I assume the new ones will make it flush. Was mine bent to make this happen or are they all partially recessed? I have nothing to compare it to.
The mirror switch on the panel is partially recessed into the console. I assume the new ones will make it flush. Was mine bent to make this happen or are they all partially recessed? I have nothing to compare it to.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on August 05, 2010, 06:05:24 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on August 05, 2010, 06:05:24 PM
They are all partially recessed for the mirror switch.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 05, 2010, 08:51:06 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 05, 2010, 08:51:06 PM
Aerocoupe, you want one with only a round mirror control? No pwr windows or seats, right?
daminc, that was the most difficult aspect of this project. The panel will fit tightly around the controller instead of going underneath it, so the answer to your question is "flusher" (or "more flush"?).
daminc, that was the most difficult aspect of this project. The panel will fit tightly around the controller instead of going underneath it, so the answer to your question is "flusher" (or "more flush"?).
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on August 05, 2010, 09:45:07 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on August 05, 2010, 09:45:07 PM
Quote from: t3skidoo;330900
The panel will fit tightly around the controller instead of going underneath it, so the answer to your question is "flusher" (or "more flush"?).
But not totally flush,right?The switch can still snap in place? I can't wait.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 05, 2010, 11:24:59 PM
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 05, 2010, 11:24:59 PM
That is correct. I can get a picture of it if needed.
Darren
Darren
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 06, 2010, 02:42:28 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 06, 2010, 02:42:28 AM
Vinnie, everything will work correctly.
Aerocoupe, please send a pic for reference.
Aerocoupe, please send a pic for reference.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on August 06, 2010, 07:06:14 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on August 06, 2010, 07:06:14 AM
Yesssssss !!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 06, 2010, 11:57:59 AM
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 06, 2010, 11:57:59 AM
Will do. The car is about five hours away from me at my dad's shop so he is going to take a pic later this evening and email it to me. Do you want me to post it up in the thread or email it directly to you?
Darren
Darren
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on August 06, 2010, 05:29:09 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on August 06, 2010, 05:29:09 PM
Post it and share in case it may apply to another member.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 06, 2010, 07:11:14 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 06, 2010, 07:11:14 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;330993
Post it and share in case it may apply to another member.
I was thinking the same thing. If it's too big to post, then send it directly.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: MacProCpo on August 06, 2010, 08:51:19 PM
Post by: MacProCpo on August 06, 2010, 08:51:19 PM
I'm in for a single power seat panel....maybe a two power seat one also for a TC to be bought in the future.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 07, 2010, 11:48:56 AM
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 07, 2010, 11:48:56 AM
As requested:
(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy142/dbrune_83/IMGP2436.jpg) (http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy142/dbrune_83/IMGP2438.jpg)
You will have to pardon the dust as the car has been sitting for over six years now.
Darren
(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy142/dbrune_83/IMGP2436.jpg) (http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy142/dbrune_83/IMGP2438.jpg)
You will have to pardon the dust as the car has been sitting for over six years now.
Darren
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Kitz Kat on August 07, 2010, 02:20:03 PM
Post by: Kitz Kat on August 07, 2010, 02:20:03 PM
It's hard to believe they made one like that. That got to be rare.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 07, 2010, 05:26:03 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 07, 2010, 05:26:03 PM
Quote from: Kitz Kat;331075
It's hard to believe they made one like that. That got to be rare.
+1
MacProCpo, what year(s)?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on August 07, 2010, 10:14:39 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on August 07, 2010, 10:14:39 PM
I found one in the garage today that just has mirrors and windows.No power seats.I'm going to restore it when my friggin decals get here.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Blackout on August 15, 2010, 11:04:37 AM
Post by: Blackout on August 15, 2010, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: t3skidoo;330816
Blackout, I thought the 85-86s were the same as 87-88s. You want one w/ dual power seats, power windows, and mirror control, right?
Yep, thats right!
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Blackout on August 17, 2010, 06:46:48 PM
Post by: Blackout on August 17, 2010, 06:46:48 PM
Any Updates on this?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 18, 2010, 05:38:53 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 18, 2010, 05:38:53 PM
They've got the official count of how many of which type. As soon as I get an ETA, I'll post it.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 19, 2010, 08:40:20 AM
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 19, 2010, 08:40:20 AM
Maybe I missed this somewhere but how do we pay for this? Paypal maybe?
Darren
Darren
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 19, 2010, 12:24:31 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 19, 2010, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: Aerocoupe;332590
Maybe I missed this somewhere but how do we pay for this? Paypal maybe?
Darren
You didn't miss it. I had an estimate on the cost, which depended on a few variables. When they're ready, I'll let you know about payment.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 19, 2010, 02:44:15 PM
Post by: Aerocoupe on August 19, 2010, 02:44:15 PM
Awesome! Cannot wait to see what they look like and get it installed.
Darren
Darren
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on August 21, 2010, 08:09:56 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 21, 2010, 08:09:56 AM
Spoke with the machine shop yesterday. It looks like they'll be ready just after Labor Day. If anything changes, I'll post.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on August 21, 2010, 08:29:09 AM
Post by: daminc on August 21, 2010, 08:29:09 AM
Cool.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on August 21, 2010, 04:21:00 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on August 21, 2010, 04:21:00 PM
I'm patiently waiting........impatiently. LOL.I'm not installing my passenger side power seat until it arrives.Any pics of the prototype?
Title: the good, the bad, and the ugly
Post by: t3skidoo on August 31, 2010, 05:07:23 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on August 31, 2010, 05:07:23 PM
Looked at the prototype today (see below). It was difficult to get a pic that means anything, but it looks good. I saw all the CAD templates and after discussing, he's going to change a few things like letter spacing, but overall the prototype looks and fits great. That's the good.
The bad is we don't have a font that's as close as I'd like. They're using MasterCam(?) and AutoCad, IIRC. If someone has a solution, please contact me asap. The second bad is we don't have an early mirror control so cutting that hole is a bit dicey.
The ugly is I saw a company's panel overlay, and am getting a quote.
The bad is we don't have a font that's as close as I'd like. They're using MasterCam(?) and AutoCad, IIRC. If someone has a solution, please contact me asap. The second bad is we don't have an early mirror control so cutting that hole is a bit dicey.
The ugly is I saw a company's panel overlay, and am getting a quote.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on August 31, 2010, 05:54:45 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on August 31, 2010, 05:54:45 PM
Just keep us up to date. I'm in no real hurry,and am just glad you're working on this issue.Thanks a lot.I appreciate it.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Quietleaf on September 04, 2010, 01:32:57 PM
Post by: Quietleaf on September 04, 2010, 01:32:57 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurostile
This typeface should be very close (I spent a lot of years writing software for a local printing company).
This typeface should be very close (I spent a lot of years writing software for a local printing company).
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on September 08, 2010, 12:03:26 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on September 08, 2010, 12:03:26 AM
Quote from: Quietleaf;334723
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurostile
thank you
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on September 08, 2010, 12:18:08 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on September 08, 2010, 12:18:08 AM
Console panels
Will get the panels tomorrow, post prices, and arrange delivery. The panels are machined from the underside with the idea that they could be painted, eliminating the need for a decal or other treatment. It's difficult to see in the picture but the machine shop did a great job, and I think that will work very well. If you don't want paint, there are a couple of options.
Overlays
Spoke with the overlay company. They can do it, and it will look nice, but the setup charge is a killer. Each version would have it's own setup charge, which is very different than what the CNC shop did for us. IMO, the only version with a high enough quantity to justify consideration is the later 2 pwr seat version (+ ~$50/ea). If you're interested in getting that done, PM me.
Overlays II
A less expensive and less durable way to do it would be getting an outdoor graphic version, more or less a decal for the top of the panel. That would ~$10/ea.
Will get the panels tomorrow, post prices, and arrange delivery. The panels are machined from the underside with the idea that they could be painted, eliminating the need for a decal or other treatment. It's difficult to see in the picture but the machine shop did a great job, and I think that will work very well. If you don't want paint, there are a couple of options.
Overlays
Spoke with the overlay company. They can do it, and it will look nice, but the setup charge is a killer. Each version would have it's own setup charge, which is very different than what the CNC shop did for us. IMO, the only version with a high enough quantity to justify consideration is the later 2 pwr seat version (+ ~$50/ea). If you're interested in getting that done, PM me.
Overlays II
A less expensive and less durable way to do it would be getting an outdoor graphic version, more or less a decal for the top of the panel. That would ~$10/ea.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Blackout on September 22, 2010, 01:36:40 AM
Post by: Blackout on September 22, 2010, 01:36:40 AM
Updates?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on September 23, 2010, 12:22:28 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on September 23, 2010, 12:22:28 AM
Hi all,
Sorry about the delay in getting an update posted.
First, the cost. I was expecting them to give me a price based on the amount of work, but instead they charged a single unit price based on the cheapest one, $40/ea.
Now for the delays.
I've been experimenting with different things on one of my backups - forming, mounting, coloring, etc. I don't have an example of a permanent installation because I'm still working on other aspects of my console. You can see the test mule below. It's been through a lot of experimentation so please don't be put off by the appearance. The pieces themselves are very nice, much nicer than pictures indicate.
I hope this won't be confusing as there are two basic questions to answer:
Installation - glue/screws?
Backlit - yes/no?
I had hoped to be able to heat form the cross-section's curve. No go on that. The solution is cold forming + glue or screws. To shape mine, I used a towel, a dowel and a couple of bricks. The other issue is the lettering font. Note that I scuffed the backside of this one, the others are smooth and transparent.
Backlit - no:
If you don't care about it being backlit, you could do whatever. It would be easy to fill the engraving with a color then slop glue on the underside and mount it. Put decals or stencil lettering and clearcoat. You could also countersink some screws into the top then smooth it with putty, etc.
Backlit + Glue:
Paint/dye around the etching, use similar colored glue to mount. You might want to modify the base to allow more light to hit the panel. Or you could keep it clear on the underside and put a decal on top
Backlit + screws:
You would probably want to go with the overlay.
Decals -
The machine shop had trouble exporting the files, but they were finally able to do that. A local place is working on overlays with Eurostile lettering. Price will be approximately $10/ea, I'll know by the end of the week.
If you have a technical question, please post it here, otherwise you can PM me.
** edit ** I tried sending a PM to everyone that said they were interested. If you didn't get one, I either missed you (apologies) or your inbox is full.
Sorry about the delay in getting an update posted.
First, the cost. I was expecting them to give me a price based on the amount of work, but instead they charged a single unit price based on the cheapest one, $40/ea.
Now for the delays.
I've been experimenting with different things on one of my backups - forming, mounting, coloring, etc. I don't have an example of a permanent installation because I'm still working on other aspects of my console. You can see the test mule below. It's been through a lot of experimentation so please don't be put off by the appearance. The pieces themselves are very nice, much nicer than pictures indicate.
I hope this won't be confusing as there are two basic questions to answer:
Installation - glue/screws?
Backlit - yes/no?
I had hoped to be able to heat form the cross-section's curve. No go on that. The solution is cold forming + glue or screws. To shape mine, I used a towel, a dowel and a couple of bricks. The other issue is the lettering font. Note that I scuffed the backside of this one, the others are smooth and transparent.
Backlit - no:
If you don't care about it being backlit, you could do whatever. It would be easy to fill the engraving with a color then slop glue on the underside and mount it. Put decals or stencil lettering and clearcoat. You could also countersink some screws into the top then smooth it with putty, etc.
Backlit + Glue:
Paint/dye around the etching, use similar colored glue to mount. You might want to modify the base to allow more light to hit the panel. Or you could keep it clear on the underside and put a decal on top
Backlit + screws:
You would probably want to go with the overlay.
Decals -
The machine shop had trouble exporting the files, but they were finally able to do that. A local place is working on overlays with Eurostile lettering. Price will be approximately $10/ea, I'll know by the end of the week.
If you have a technical question, please post it here, otherwise you can PM me.
** edit ** I tried sending a PM to everyone that said they were interested. If you didn't get one, I either missed you (apologies) or your inbox is full.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on September 23, 2010, 07:02:27 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on September 23, 2010, 07:02:27 AM
Are the letters etched from the bottom or the top?
Is the mirror switch slightly countersunk like the originals?
Pic of the overlays?
Are the overlays durable?
Is the mirror switch slightly countersunk like the originals?
Pic of the overlays?
Are the overlays durable?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on September 23, 2010, 07:20:48 AM
Post by: daminc on September 23, 2010, 07:20:48 AM
would the overlays be made so the text would be transparent or cut to allow light from the clear panel to shine through?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on September 23, 2010, 11:15:39 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on September 23, 2010, 11:15:39 AM
The overlay is directly from the CAD file, so should match exactly. Conversion and font correction should be complete by tomorrow. The guy doing it did a test sample, black and white are the two colors (see below).
The black is opaque. The white is translucent.
IMO, the only real choices are 100% or clear (no color). It's difficult to see in the pic, but the intermediate percentages are too granular. I put a single blue-white LED (~2V) underneath the 100% white, and the light was strong enough that I could see the bulb. Just about any strong light would require some to diffusion. So, for sure, the white can be backlit. There is one problem - because each color is a separate step, the alignment isn't 100% perfect.
If you go with "clear", you could scuff the top surface of the panel before putting the overlay on it (like I did to the bottom of the test piece). That will give a daytime 'white' color, diffuse backlighting, and keep people from seeing into your console.
Black with either clear or white would look the closest to stock, but I *think* most any color combo is possible. Certainly primary colors are available, eg red panel w/ yellow lettering if you're so inclined.:barf:
When I check out the proofs, he can tell me about color availability.
The black is opaque. The white is translucent.
IMO, the only real choices are 100% or clear (no color). It's difficult to see in the pic, but the intermediate percentages are too granular. I put a single blue-white LED (~2V) underneath the 100% white, and the light was strong enough that I could see the bulb. Just about any strong light would require some to diffusion. So, for sure, the white can be backlit. There is one problem - because each color is a separate step, the alignment isn't 100% perfect.
If you go with "clear", you could scuff the top surface of the panel before putting the overlay on it (like I did to the bottom of the test piece). That will give a daytime 'white' color, diffuse backlighting, and keep people from seeing into your console.
Black with either clear or white would look the closest to stock, but I *think* most any color combo is possible. Certainly primary colors are available, eg red panel w/ yellow lettering if you're so inclined.:barf:
When I check out the proofs, he can tell me about color availability.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on September 23, 2010, 03:04:35 PM
Post by: daminc on September 23, 2010, 03:04:35 PM
So one could actually get a black with the text in the green to match our dash illumination.
I suppose a green bulb would be easier though..
I suppose a green bulb would be easier though..
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: hypostang on September 23, 2010, 04:15:05 PM
Post by: hypostang on September 23, 2010, 04:15:05 PM
I have to say I am completely confused as to exactly waht is going on here.
IIRC Vinnie redid a panel a while back and it looked fantastic.
Is the purpose of these just to have back lighting ?
IIRC Vinnie redid a panel a while back and it looked fantastic.
Is the purpose of these just to have back lighting ?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on September 23, 2010, 04:36:06 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on September 23, 2010, 04:36:06 PM
Quote from: hypostang;336408
I have to say I am completely confused as to exactly waht is going on here.
IIRC Vinnie redid a panel a while back and it looked fantastic.
Is the purpose of these just to have back lighting ?
Three reasons.
1) A lot of console panels are torn up, bent etc., and need to be replaced. What Vinnie did isn't possible without a suitable replacement part. BTW, Vinnie did a great job on his, and if you want something completely stock appearing, that's the way to go. Unless you can find an NOS panel (I'm not selling mine).
2) Take a closer look at the test mule above. Can you tell me what the options are for that particular year?
3) I wanted back lighting. Specifically, I wanted something to easily mark the mirror and window switches at night, something that would match the rest of the interior. With this panel, the lettering and such will be lit of course, but also vertical surfaces of the switch cutouts will 'glow' when backlit. Should be a nice effect.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: hypostang on September 23, 2010, 05:28:29 PM
Post by: hypostang on September 23, 2010, 05:28:29 PM
Ok , I get it now .
The panel above looks like power windows, mirrors and either power antenna , convertible top or sunroof
The panel above looks like power windows, mirrors and either power antenna , convertible top or sunroof
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: hypostang on September 23, 2010, 05:52:51 PM
Post by: hypostang on September 23, 2010, 05:52:51 PM
I just re-read this whole thread and I'm not sure if anyone made note of this little tid- bit the 85/86 window switches work opposite of the 87/88 switches
which is to say "up is down and down is up":D
I dont know if that will be an issue for anyone who is signed up
which is to say "up is down and down is up":D
I dont know if that will be an issue for anyone who is signed up
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on September 24, 2010, 07:23:31 AM
Post by: daminc on September 24, 2010, 07:23:31 AM
Quote from: hypostang;336430
I just re-read this whole thread and I'm not sure if anyone made note of this little tid- bit the 85/86 window switches work opposite of the 87/88 switches
which is to say "up is down and down is up":D
I dont know if that will be an issue for anyone who is signed up
Your right, and that is so annoying after you drive an 87 for 24 years and try to put the windows down in an 85.
I'm flipping mine so they go the right way
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: cougarman on September 24, 2010, 07:26:10 AM
Post by: cougarman on September 24, 2010, 07:26:10 AM
Quote from: daminc;336490
Your right, and that is so annoying after you drive an 87 for 24 years and try to put the windows down in an 85.
I'm flipping mine so they go the right way
I always flip them around also!!:D
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on September 24, 2010, 09:44:27 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on September 24, 2010, 09:44:27 AM
Quote from: hypostang;336430
I just re-read this whole thread and I'm not sure if anyone made note of this little tid- bit the 85/86 window switches work opposite of the 87/88 switches
which is to say "up is down and down is up":D
I didn't know that. Or if I did, I promptly forgot it. In any case, an overlay would fix that.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on September 24, 2010, 09:45:59 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on September 24, 2010, 09:45:59 AM
Blackout, can't PM you.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on September 24, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on September 24, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: vinnietbird;336366
Are the letters etched from the bottom or the top?
Is the mirror switch slightly countersunk like the originals?
Pic of the overlays?
Are the overlays durable?
Let me know......
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Kitz Kat on September 24, 2010, 02:28:46 PM
Post by: Kitz Kat on September 24, 2010, 02:28:46 PM
I'm still not sure what I agreed to buy. You need to glue this to the console? I am confused.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on September 24, 2010, 05:44:45 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on September 24, 2010, 05:44:45 PM
Due to my confusion,I'm wondering the following......
1. It will need to be glued or use fasteners...right?
2. If the words are etched in from the back,and you paint it black,will you be able to see the letters well?
3. If you paint the back of it black,(because you don't want to leave it clear),how can the lighting work if the letters are painted over (I doubt they can be masked over at that tiny size)?
4.I'm wondering if it's painted from behind,and the adhesive goes on from behind,would the adhesive interfere with the painted surface and pull the paint from the surface of the panel?
5. How flexible is the panel for making it adhere to the curved surface of the console panel and be able to hold well?
6.With a vinyl overlay,would the letter line up with the panel well enough to make lights work through the overlay,and the overlay thick enough that the light doesn't shine through anywhere else?
Just my questions in one place This thread is long and I'm trying to tie it all up together.My apologies if I'm making it more complictated than it needs to be.Thanks a lot.
1. It will need to be glued or use fasteners...right?
2. If the words are etched in from the back,and you paint it black,will you be able to see the letters well?
3. If you paint the back of it black,(because you don't want to leave it clear),how can the lighting work if the letters are painted over (I doubt they can be masked over at that tiny size)?
4.I'm wondering if it's painted from behind,and the adhesive goes on from behind,would the adhesive interfere with the painted surface and pull the paint from the surface of the panel?
5. How flexible is the panel for making it adhere to the curved surface of the console panel and be able to hold well?
6.With a vinyl overlay,would the letter line up with the panel well enough to make lights work through the overlay,and the overlay thick enough that the light doesn't shine through anywhere else?
Just my questions in one place This thread is long and I'm trying to tie it all up together.My apologies if I'm making it more complictated than it needs to be.Thanks a lot.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on September 24, 2010, 06:06:17 PM
Post by: daminc on September 24, 2010, 06:06:17 PM
I'm mainly concerned with the fastening and the bendability of the panel. Actually, a laminated black/clear plastic would be the ultimate fix for the painting and lighted text.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: MY83T on September 24, 2010, 07:18:53 PM
Post by: MY83T on September 24, 2010, 07:18:53 PM
im so confused my brain hurts........
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on September 24, 2010, 11:01:09 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on September 24, 2010, 11:01:09 PM
First, sorry for the confusion.
Vinnie,
Are the letters etched from the bottom or the top?
Etching was done from the bottom. The top is smooth
Is the mirror switch slightly countersunk like the originals?
The mirror switch fits in the same place. The panel is cut to fit around the switch
Pic of the overlays?
The overlays are taking longer than expected so don't have a pic yet. They are being converted from the CAD files, so will match the factory panel. The only difference is that the letting font will be correct for the car.
Are the overlays durable?
Yes, all-weather outdoor material.
1. It will need to be glued or use fasteners...right?
Yes.
2. If the words are etched in from the back,and you paint it black,will you be able to see the letters well?
You'd need to keep the color out of the etching. That's actually pretty easy if you're careful.
3. If you paint the back of it black,(because you don't want to leave it clear),how can the lighting work if the letters are painted over (I doubt they can be masked over at that tiny size)?
See #2. Masking would be tedious.
4.I'm wondering if it's painted from behind,and the adhesive goes on from behind,would the adhesive interfere with the painted surface and pull the paint from the surface of the panel?
Probably, that's why I suggested black glue. Paint around all the etching, put glue everywhere else.
5. How flexible is the panel for making it adhere to the curved surface of the console panel and be able to hold well?
The panel will flex more than necessary to fit the console. You should use something similar in strength to what Ford used on the original panel.
6.With a vinyl overlay,would the letter line up with the panel well enough to make lights work through the overlay,and the overlay thick enough that the light doesn't shine through anywhere else?
IF you want to use an overlay, I'd suggest using a clear glue to attach the panel, but yes, they will line up. The black for the overlay is definitely opaque.
Just my questions in one place This thread is long and I'm trying to tie it all up together.My apologies if I'm making it more complictated than it needs to be.Thanks a lot.
Actually the confusion is my fault. There's more than one way to do this and trying to explain all the choices at once leads to overload.
Kitz Kat,
You need to glue this to the console?
You need to attach it. Glue would be best in most cases.
daminc,
I'm mainly concerned with the fastening and the bendability of the panel. Actually, a laminated black/clear plastic would be the ultimate fix for the painting and lighted text.
Agreed. FYI, the material is .030 Lexan
MY83T,
im so confused my brain hurts........
Sorry. It's not as difficult as I made it out to be.
Vinnie,
Are the letters etched from the bottom or the top?
Etching was done from the bottom. The top is smooth
Is the mirror switch slightly countersunk like the originals?
The mirror switch fits in the same place. The panel is cut to fit around the switch
Pic of the overlays?
The overlays are taking longer than expected so don't have a pic yet. They are being converted from the CAD files, so will match the factory panel. The only difference is that the letting font will be correct for the car.
Are the overlays durable?
Yes, all-weather outdoor material.
1. It will need to be glued or use fasteners...right?
Yes.
2. If the words are etched in from the back,and you paint it black,will you be able to see the letters well?
You'd need to keep the color out of the etching. That's actually pretty easy if you're careful.
3. If you paint the back of it black,(because you don't want to leave it clear),how can the lighting work if the letters are painted over (I doubt they can be masked over at that tiny size)?
See #2. Masking would be tedious.
4.I'm wondering if it's painted from behind,and the adhesive goes on from behind,would the adhesive interfere with the painted surface and pull the paint from the surface of the panel?
Probably, that's why I suggested black glue. Paint around all the etching, put glue everywhere else.
5. How flexible is the panel for making it adhere to the curved surface of the console panel and be able to hold well?
The panel will flex more than necessary to fit the console. You should use something similar in strength to what Ford used on the original panel.
6.With a vinyl overlay,would the letter line up with the panel well enough to make lights work through the overlay,and the overlay thick enough that the light doesn't shine through anywhere else?
IF you want to use an overlay, I'd suggest using a clear glue to attach the panel, but yes, they will line up. The black for the overlay is definitely opaque.
Just my questions in one place This thread is long and I'm trying to tie it all up together.My apologies if I'm making it more complictated than it needs to be.Thanks a lot.
Actually the confusion is my fault. There's more than one way to do this and trying to explain all the choices at once leads to overload.
Kitz Kat,
You need to glue this to the console?
You need to attach it. Glue would be best in most cases.
daminc,
I'm mainly concerned with the fastening and the bendability of the panel. Actually, a laminated black/clear plastic would be the ultimate fix for the painting and lighted text.
Agreed. FYI, the material is .030 Lexan
MY83T,
im so confused my brain hurts........
Sorry. It's not as difficult as I made it out to be.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on September 24, 2010, 11:21:40 PM
Post by: daminc on September 24, 2010, 11:21:40 PM
If I understand this... the best and easiest option to get the text to light.. would be
1. securing the clear panel with lighting and proper tpuppies of the console to let light to all the text.
2. securing using adhesive or fasteners.
3. then applying an overlay. where any fasteners or adhesive would be hidden by the overlay.
That would probably be the less time consuming and trouble free install, with no paint to worry about on the etched panel
1. securing the clear panel with lighting and proper tpuppies of the console to let light to all the text.
2. securing using adhesive or fasteners.
3. then applying an overlay. where any fasteners or adhesive would be hidden by the overlay.
That would probably be the less time consuming and trouble free install, with no paint to worry about on the etched panel
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on September 25, 2010, 02:20:59 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on September 25, 2010, 02:20:59 AM
Quote from: daminc;336594
If I understand this... the best and easiest option to get the text to light.. would be
1. securing the clear panel with lighting and proper tpuppies of the console to let light to all the text.
2. securing using adhesive or fasteners.
3. then applying an overlay. where any fasteners or adhesive would be hidden by the overlay.
That would probably be the less time consuming and trouble free install, with no paint to worry about on the etched panel
Yes, that's it.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on September 25, 2010, 03:51:48 AM
Post by: daminc on September 25, 2010, 03:51:48 AM
Phew... then to answer your PM...I would need overlays to match the panels too. ;)
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on September 25, 2010, 06:55:50 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on September 25, 2010, 06:55:50 AM
Quote from: daminc;336612
Phew... then to answer your PM...I would need overlays to match the panels too. ;)
Yes,me too.......overlay.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Kitz Kat on September 25, 2010, 12:27:05 PM
Post by: Kitz Kat on September 25, 2010, 12:27:05 PM
X3
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Blackout on September 25, 2010, 11:23:27 PM
Post by: Blackout on September 25, 2010, 11:23:27 PM
X4 lol
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on October 13, 2010, 01:46:28 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on October 13, 2010, 01:46:28 PM
Hi,
Responded to PMs.
Sorry for the delays, we've been working on details of the overlay. The translation from the original CAD files were close but not perfect. The fonts weren't quite right, so we scanned the original parts and are using that for lettering and graphics.
They're doing a second set of overlays for the factory piece. If you don't care about backlighting and the metal panel is straight but worn, you might be interested in getting one of these.
edit
If you want an overlay, I need to know how you want the window controls to read, up/dn or dn/up
Responded to PMs.
Sorry for the delays, we've been working on details of the overlay. The translation from the original CAD files were close but not perfect. The fonts weren't quite right, so we scanned the original parts and are using that for lettering and graphics.
They're doing a second set of overlays for the factory piece. If you don't care about backlighting and the metal panel is straight but worn, you might be interested in getting one of these.
edit
If you want an overlay, I need to know how you want the window controls to read, up/dn or dn/up
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on October 13, 2010, 04:18:40 PM
Post by: vinnietbird on October 13, 2010, 04:18:40 PM
Mine would be like the left.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: jleews6 on October 14, 2010, 11:03:33 AM
Post by: jleews6 on October 14, 2010, 11:03:33 AM
Dang this is cool cant wait to see the finished product!
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on October 14, 2010, 11:18:12 AM
Post by: daminc on October 14, 2010, 11:18:12 AM
mine would be the up on the top for both, because I'm changing the switches in the vert before I loose what's left of my mind trying to open the windows in there. lol
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Kitz Kat on October 14, 2010, 04:58:20 PM
Post by: Kitz Kat on October 14, 2010, 04:58:20 PM
Quote from: daminc;339470
mine would be the up on the top for both, because I'm changing the switches in the vert before I loose what's left of my mind trying to open the windows in there. lol
Are you talking about the left one? I think that's how mine is, seems backwards,I always go the wrong way the first time.
Not enough seat time maybe.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: daminc on October 14, 2010, 05:47:53 PM
Post by: daminc on October 14, 2010, 05:47:53 PM
this is the way it is on the vert.... seems really wrong seeing that the top goes in the opposite direction.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/85%20Vert/IMG_5636.jpg)
I always thought in my crazy brain... that if you pull on something, it should go down. not up. unless your in a plane, then if you pull back on the stick it goes up. lol
My 87 is like the drawing on the left. The switches in my lincoln are also the same way. Makes the vert a little confusing being opposite.
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/85%20Vert/IMG_5636.jpg)
I always thought in my crazy brain... that if you pull on something, it should go down. not up. unless your in a plane, then if you pull back on the stick it goes up. lol
My 87 is like the drawing on the left. The switches in my lincoln are also the same way. Makes the vert a little confusing being opposite.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: Kitz Kat on October 14, 2010, 05:51:34 PM
Post by: Kitz Kat on October 14, 2010, 05:51:34 PM
You hit it right on "pull back up" Like your pick. To me that is the right way. Like you said in a plane!!. Oh yeh I never mess with the seat, that has it's own issues.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on November 19, 2010, 12:27:56 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on November 19, 2010, 12:27:56 AM
Update -
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It's taking longer than expected. I called today to get an update. They don't have the files or any of the work the guy had done. They purge monthly and all that work he'd done .. yes, got purged. When I go back with the original files, I'll learn *exactly* why this happened, then explain to them why it won't happen again.
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It's taking longer than expected. I called today to get an update. They don't have the files or any of the work the guy had done. They purge monthly and all that work he'd done .. yes, got purged. When I go back with the original files, I'll learn *exactly* why this happened, then explain to them why it won't happen again.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on January 28, 2011, 04:32:55 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on January 28, 2011, 04:32:55 PM
The overlays are finally finished. Paid orders were posted today and you should have a confirmation PM. If you'd like one, please PM and confirm which options you want.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on January 28, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on January 28, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
For those of you that don't want backlighting, you can also get an overlay for the factory metal panel. The overlay is the same minus the control cutouts (see bottom right). That allows you to address the contoured area around the mirror control.
The overlays are available with white or clear lettering, each has advantages when backlighting.
$50 Console panel
$55 Console panel w/ overlay
$10 Overlay
The overlays are available with white or clear lettering, each has advantages when backlighting.
$50 Console panel
$55 Console panel w/ overlay
$10 Overlay
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: gumby on January 28, 2011, 05:13:29 PM
Post by: gumby on January 28, 2011, 05:13:29 PM
Probly a lil late in the game, but did you happen to have any overlays printed with only mirrors and windows?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on January 28, 2011, 05:26:01 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on January 28, 2011, 05:26:01 PM
I got every combination made I could think of. Yours is an 87/88, right?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: gumby on January 28, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
Post by: gumby on January 28, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
yessir! PM comin your way.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on February 01, 2011, 11:42:07 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on February 01, 2011, 11:42:07 AM
Here's mine installed. Hard to get a good pic of it, but there's enough to get the idea. Only things left are lighting for the panel and paint for the rest.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: hcor on February 01, 2011, 06:53:43 PM
Post by: hcor on February 01, 2011, 06:53:43 PM
how much is shipping? I am interested in 10 of them.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on February 01, 2011, 08:32:01 PM
Post by: t3skidoo on February 01, 2011, 08:32:01 PM
Price includes delivery to lower 48.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: sarjxxx on February 04, 2011, 10:44:23 PM
Post by: sarjxxx on February 04, 2011, 10:44:23 PM
Kick ass. I did the console conversion few weeks back and have a bad plate so as soon as I get some extra $ come my way, prolly in about 2 weeks, I'll be needing a panel and overlay for Windows/Mirrors only. In the normal push = up, pull = down configuration.
You said you used a blue bulb and it lit up well. Did it light up correctly with the blue tint? And it would work the same way for say....red?
You said you used a blue bulb and it lit up well. Did it light up correctly with the blue tint? And it would work the same way for say....red?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on February 05, 2011, 12:18:53 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on February 05, 2011, 12:18:53 AM
I was testing with a single LED, so yes, any color light is going to work.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: flylear45 on February 05, 2011, 06:10:28 AM
Post by: flylear45 on February 05, 2011, 06:10:28 AM
Does the combined thickness of the panel and the decal stick up above the level of the console, or is it pretty much flush? How many lights will it take to get a uniform brightness behind the lettering? One bulb for each or just a few around the periphery?
I gotta say I am very impressed with this project. Very impressed. Lots of times guys get started on these things and never see them through. My hat is off to you, sir!
I gotta say I am very impressed with this project. Very impressed. Lots of times guys get started on these things and never see them through. My hat is off to you, sir!
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: t3skidoo on February 05, 2011, 08:27:59 AM
Post by: t3skidoo on February 05, 2011, 08:27:59 AM
Thanks.
The panel height is the same as the factory piece, so yes, it is flush. As for lighting, it's going to depend on personal taste and which options your car has, as well as what you're going to use - the factory lighting, additional incandescents, LEDs, etc.
For myself, I want a 'factory look', so that it matches the dash and interior lighting. I was planning on putting an LED at each feature but I also want the 'glow' from the vertical edges to accent the switches. I will probably take some work to get right, but then there will be a nice halo around each of the switches.
The panel height is the same as the factory piece, so yes, it is flush. As for lighting, it's going to depend on personal taste and which options your car has, as well as what you're going to use - the factory lighting, additional incandescents, LEDs, etc.
For myself, I want a 'factory look', so that it matches the dash and interior lighting. I was planning on putting an LED at each feature but I also want the 'glow' from the vertical edges to accent the switches. I will probably take some work to get right, but then there will be a nice halo around each of the switches.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: flylear45 on February 05, 2011, 09:46:59 AM
Post by: flylear45 on February 05, 2011, 09:46:59 AM
Quote from: t3skidoo;351896
Thanks.
The panel height is the same as the factory piece, so yes, it is flush. As for lighting, it's going to depend on personal taste and which options your car has, as well as what you're going to use - the factory lighting, additional incandescents, LEDs, etc.
For myself, I want a 'factory look', so that it matches the dash and interior lighting. I was planning on putting an LED at each feature but I also want the 'glow' from the vertical edges to accent the switches. I will probably take some work to get right, but then there will be a nice halo around each of the switches.
Sounds reasonable. Be sure to show us a 'night shot' when you get her wired up!
I am definitely in for this. Got some work to do before I get to interior, though. Plus I used all my play money for the short haul. I'll be PM'ing you for a 87-88 TC / two power seats and 'pull for up' on the window decal and EL plate set next payday.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 12:11:44 AM
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 12:11:44 AM
Sorry to bring an old thread back from the dead but I've been looking at various ways to restore my switch panel. Are these overlays still available? If so, I'm definitely interested!
Thanks!
Thanks!
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 08:02:56 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 08:02:56 AM
Here's mine that I restored with my decals I had printed up....
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc205/Vinnietbird/DSCF8275.jpg) (http://s216.photobucket.com/user/Vinnietbird/media/DSCF8275.jpg.html)
Mine still looks the same after more then two years.
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc205/Vinnietbird/DSCF8275.jpg) (http://s216.photobucket.com/user/Vinnietbird/media/DSCF8275.jpg.html)
Mine still looks the same after more then two years.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 08:05:12 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 08:05:12 AM
What is the layout on your switch panel? One power seat? two power seats?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 09:04:46 AM
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 09:04:46 AM
Here's a pic of my current switch panel.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 09:06:09 AM
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 09:06:09 AM
Is that panel just held on with the metal tabs or is taped or glued from the backside?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
O.K., this costs a bit, but well worth it.....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121263155158?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Nothing beats the real thing. Plus, these are getting harder and harder to find.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121263155158?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Nothing beats the real thing. Plus, these are getting harder and harder to find.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 09:17:38 AM
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 09:17:38 AM
I was looking at that one last night but I guess it's the cheapskate in me, I can't bring myself to spend that much. :)
I've been investigating creating my own decals with an inkjet. My hang up is creating those lines by the seat controls.
I've been investigating creating my own decals with an inkjet. My hang up is creating those lines by the seat controls.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
I HAVE THE ANSWER !!!!!!!! $13.00 shipped..........
http://www.dancolettering.com/store/turbocoupe.php
I had forgotten all about this site. I ordered the panel face last year or the year before. It's still stashed away. LOL.
http://www.dancolettering.com/store/turbocoupe.php
I had forgotten all about this site. I ordered the panel face last year or the year before. It's still stashed away. LOL.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 09:40:46 AM
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 09:40:46 AM
I just fired off an email to inquire about a single power seat option. Thanks for the link!
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 09:46:54 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 09:46:54 AM
It lets you configure it as you please. Then you just shoot a PayPal payment and you're good to go. I just ordered another one as a backup to my backup.
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 10:06:55 AM
Post by: MeanLX on February 01, 2014, 10:06:55 AM
It's interesting that he skips 85-86. Was there a difference that I'm not aware of?
Title: *update* - center console panel question - *update*
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 10:07:32 AM
Post by: vinnietbird on February 01, 2014, 10:07:32 AM
Some had a different kind of mirror switch. They were round. As far as I know, the '86 should be the same as the '88..