Hey all my name is Jayda-Lynne, I live in Hampton VA. I been browsing this forum a little bit and though I should join it. I may pick up a tbird turbo coupe when I finish a couple things up. I currently own a 98 Supra TT, a 2004 SVT Cobra (hence CobraGurl), and a 2002 BMW 5 series wagon as a daily driver. Yes I know it may seem hard to believe but I was raised with cars because of my uncle. Hopefully I won't get asked a thousand questions about my cars just because I'm a girl but bring it :) lol.
Hello! Welcome to the site!
Welcome enjoy your stay :D turbo coupes are fun I have 4 ;)
Thanks.
I do love boost. But my hands are a little full at the moment.
Welcome!
Thanks. Is it commen to swap out the 2.3 for a 5.0?
Only if you want to go slow.
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Haha five point slows is what some folks call them. I'm sorta fond of them truthfully. I heard the 2.3 was just as tough if not tougher as the 3sgte and 4g63 at handling power as far as 4cyl goes.
Want it Homer?
Buy it, lots of trouble and expensive to maintain lol.
It's all relative.
If you want to spend more on an engine that is a little more finicky, but yet unique and has a stronger bottom end, then the 2.3t is for you.
If you want a cheaper, bigger parts supply, and a fair amount of off-idle torque, then a 5.0HO is right for you.
(^^stock, anyway)
Personally, the only way I'd swap in ANY 5.0 into a decent running TC would be if that 5.0 was forced induction, well built, and I had ALL the requirements on hand to drop it in.
I'm not slamming the guys that prefer the half motor, just as I'm not one to say that a V8 is god over everything else, they both have their pros and cons.
Check out gumby's car, ChuckW's...there's some other 2.3t guys making crazy power, t3skidoo has a badass setup as well.
There's also guys making very respectable power with the 5.0's (and in a coupla cases, a 351w with a power-adder!)
The folks to look for here are Dominator, 5.8FastCat, a few others whom I can't remember.
As for saying which one is better...well, either, and neither. That's as far into that can of worms as I'm going to get, lmao
BTW, welcome to the BEST Fox Tbird Forum in the whole galaxy, if not universe :bowdown:
I believe all 4cyl turbo charged engines are finicky. When it comes to modding the 5.0 market is pretty large so is the 4.6. Being that these cars aren't AWD then off the line prowness wouldn't be a trait of such a low displacement motor. Now how about 4v 4.6 swaps?
I'm getting more and more interested as I read up on these cars.
we will see about that ;)
It seems pretty common to replace the 2.3T with a 5.0. I went the other way though. My car was originally a 5.0 and I took that out and put the 2.3T in.
Yup, there's a few guys who've done or are doing the 4.6 swap.
Shame302 was in the process..I think he got away from it...32vFoxBird did or was doing it. There's also ppl who've dropped in 351w, 429, 460, and even a case of a Caddy 500 incher!
Basically, if it'll fit, it can be used. Myself..I'm waiting for the day one of us here drops in an LS Chevy engine :evilgrin:
We all know how potent those mean little s are lol
Are you happy with it? How tough are the transmissions in the 2.3t? I know a lot of turbo cars stock trannys usually don't hold up especially 5speeds is it any different for these?
Well I actually haven't gotten to drive it with its new drive train yet. My wife got stationed out here in Las Vegas just as I was finishing up the swap and the car has been stuck at our house in Kansas for the last 3 years. I finally have the money saved up to ship it though, so I should be able to report back on how thrilled I am with it soon. I pretty much built mine out of parts I had laying around to go as fast as possible for as cheap as possible, so that is why I went with the 2.3T
The A4LD auto tranny in the 87-88 models is pretty weak, but the T5 manual is pretty decently strong. My car has a C3 (A4LD without overdrive) and should hold up ok, but I plan to swap a T5 in when it breaks. You can check out my build thread here http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=27461
Also be sure to check out the forums at Turboford (http://www.turboford.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php) and at NATO (http://natomessageboard.com/cgi-bin/Ultimatebb.cgi)
Ed
Man I would love to see the LS swap in a fox bird I myself have given it serious thought
Well a 1jz-gte or 2jz-gte or even a 4g63t would be an awesome swap also. GM LSx motors are awesome motors, I have a buddy with a LS3 FD rx7. So which of you guys are going to do it?
Well if someone wants to give me a LS 6.0 I will go for It lol
I'd save the LS2 swap for the XJS.
5.0L's will give you big torque for little $$. Parts are cheap on craigslist and such because people are moving on to the mod motors.
xjeffs what other forums are you on? Your name looks very familiar.
Welcome to the site.
My 88TC daily driver will stay 2.3T. I just like the car too much to modify it. As far as being high maintenance and finicky, that's . Granted, I change the oil more frequently, but since when does that qualify as high maintanence? Takes no more trouble to keep in tune and running that a fuel injected 5.0.
That being said, my next project that I'm collecting parts for is an 87TC that will be twin turboed injected 5.0 with a T5. Before anyone starts crying, the TC washiznit pretty hard in the drivers door and left in a field with no window in it for 6 years. Either I turn it into a drag car or it goes to the sper. I prefer to save it.
If you need help with the 5.0 TT build let me know. A buddy of mine named Ramney has a grabber orange 900+ horsepower 5.0tt 91 notch. It is fully street legal and still has most of the modern conviences that aren't usually seen in such a built car. He is excellent with tuning.
I just got 30 mpg on a 360 mile highway trip in my 182,000 mile turbo coupe. The car has run 14.7's. Not fast but not slow either. Its almost stock.
Fordguy545 has dyno'd close to 350whp and 400wtq with a stock bottom end. The car is a riot to ride along at the autocrosses. This is what he's doing now http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=27401
I need a car with good mpg's.
I have a festiva that got 50 MPG. It might get 40 after I'm done doing what I'm doing to it.:D
http://foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=27435
I was reading your thread last night, seems fun.
Pretty cool there, I'm in need of a car with some good mpgs.
A 1jz-who? or a 2jz-what? I must be old, because none of that made any sense to me! LOL
Personally, I am planning a Duratec 2.3 swap, keeping it turbocharged of course. I really rather a modern I6, but Ford doesn't have any DOHC Is engines in the states, only in Australia.
Shiny Side Up!
Bill
Thanks Bill ,I'm glad it wasn't only me
I thought I had suddenly developed dyslexia :rollin:
is the supra really that bad? lol
There is a guy who swapped a 2JZ into a Supercoupe on sccoa.com. Not a Fox body, but still a Thunderbird.
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87325
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93221
They are modern I6 turbo and twin turbo motors from toyota.
Look up how expensive aftermarket parts are for these cars especially when the boost is increased...
I'm sorry guys...
My opinion is, if you're looking to swap a 5.0 or 4.6 into a T-bird, buy a Sport. If you want to build a 2.3t, by a TC. If you want the TC goodies and are willing to go through the trouble of swapping an engine, there are lots of TC's out there being parted out.
Welcome to the board, btw. You're not the first female on here, so we won't be hounding you. Well, maybe for pictures of your cars!
If it's anything like the Z32, I hear you. :crazy:
Welcome aboard. Enjoy the site.
yeah but not as ugly :rollin:
Oooh, bitter rivalry. You would think she drove a Firebird or something.:rollin:
Personally, I always thought the last 300Z(ed)X looked ten times shagier than the Supra that ended it all (When Toyota killed the Supra, it honestly spelled the end for every interesting Toyota to follow. That last Supra was very much a typical Toyota bubble design.). Now if we're talking Mk III Supra's, they were much more attractive than the 80's Z(ed). I was looking for a MkIII when I stumbled upon the Turbo Coupe.
280z and 240z = puppiesanes shag
I know the MKIV isnt the best looker
It's not ugly, but not my favourite. You have to respect it on sheer numbers, though. It is a pretty insane car. Hard to believe the company that made that now has the Matrix as its most performance oriented vehicle. The Toyobaru can't come soon enough for them.
I'm not a toyota person at all if it isnt a MKIII or MKIV or a Chaser/Cressida then i wouldnt want it.
Welcome, it looks like you're already enjoying the site.
Hey! You're new. Welcome. Got any pics of the german wagon? I kinda miss my german wagon. At least, until I remember how slow it was. Interior sure was nice though. :D
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xjslovers, corner-carvers, and some others I'm sure I've forgotten. a couple others under speedracer6