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Technical => Engine Tech => Topic started by: boss9 on March 24, 2010, 04:58:47 PM

Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: boss9 on March 24, 2010, 04:58:47 PM
Picked up a 93 3.8 Taurus fan to eliminate my waterpump mounted clutch fan. It's going to fit very well. I also picked up a Perma-Cool  "Vari-Cool" fan switch kit. Where should I mount the relay ? It's got a short wire for the probe and I need to get to the variable control (160* to 210*) to make adjustments.
Just curious if anyone is using something similar and where you mounted it.
Thanks :burnout:
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: vinnietbird on March 24, 2010, 05:04:42 PM
I have a Taurus fan.The relay is mounted under the battery tray on the frame rail on the Sport.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: boss9 on March 24, 2010, 05:53:08 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;315674
I have a Taurus fan.The relay is mounted under the battery tray on the frame rail on the Sport.


Vinnie, I thought about that location but I would have to stand on my head to adjust the "pot" switch.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: vinnietbird on March 24, 2010, 06:49:41 PM
Mine is on all the time....on high.Been that way for almost two years,never had an issue.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: boss9 on March 24, 2010, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;315693
Mine is on all the time....on high.Been that way for almost two years,never had an issue.

I thought about that. Any ill effect with it being on high ? Just "set it and forget it " ? :D
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: mcb82gt on March 24, 2010, 07:42:12 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;315693
Mine is on all the time....on high.Been that way for almost two years,never had an issue.


Isnt it sorta loud?:D
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: vinnietbird on March 25, 2010, 06:55:03 AM
You can't here my fan any louder than any other electric fan.When the engine is running,the fan isn't noticeable.

As far as "set it and forget it"....yes,that's right.My fan comes on when I start the car,goes off when I turn it off.Never had a problem at all and the car always runs cool.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: dominator on March 25, 2010, 08:15:27 AM
That would technically over cool the engine not allowing it to reach proper temps.
Causing the ecc to dump more fuel.
It also drastically reduces the life of the fan.
I would use the thermostat,must be a reason every manufacture has one programmed into the eec and does not let their fans run consistantly???
It also puts a large constant load on the electrical system,reducing amps available for other accessories and reducing alternator life.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: Loaded87IROC on March 25, 2010, 04:27:21 PM
I have a Supercoupe fan in my 86 Cougar.  I mounted the relay between the starter solenoid and the battery temporarily and have the fan on low anytime the car is on.  I ran the fan in my Supercoupe for a few years on all the time in the low setting and it always ran great on temp, about a 1/3 of the way up.  Before doing that wiring mod it would run about 3/4 of the way up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Loaded87IROC/86%20Cougar/023.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Loaded87IROC/86%20Cougar/019.jpg
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: bhazard on March 25, 2010, 04:34:17 PM
I definately wouldnt run the fan nonstop like Vinnie, for reasons described above.

Besides it kinda ruins the point of having the electric fan over the engine mounted fan.
And those fans draw a LOT of amps. Taxes the alternator more, more load on the alt means more load on the engine.

Though a switch inside would be nice to be able to switch between thermostat control and always on, for say, at the drags or something.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: vinnietbird on March 25, 2010, 04:51:50 PM
That may be true (what was stated above),but,I'm getting good gas mileage,and the car has been great,even when all the accessories are running.Works for me,so,I'm happy.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: 86caprirs on March 25, 2010, 09:47:48 PM
Not to mention with the TC nose.....You want to make sure you get flow even sitting at lights.

Has anyone used the DC controller? I hear it is a simple hookup and controller.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: vinnietbird on March 25, 2010, 09:49:16 PM
True.I've said before,last summer,it hit a high of 117 degrees with 95% humidity.Crazy hot.The Sport never got close to hot.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: Kitz Kat on March 26, 2010, 05:47:48 AM
I run mine on low, with a fan controller, I only know it's on when the the engine is off. It's about the only way I know it actually works. Rock steady at 185.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: blackcougar71 on March 27, 2010, 02:37:55 PM
i'm using the dual ford taurus fan setup with lincoln continental fan motors with blow more air compared to the smaller taurus motors with a adjustable temp sending unit from autozone. so i can turn the fans on at any temperature.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: mcb82gt on March 27, 2010, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: 86caprirs;315913
Has anyone used the DC controller? I hear it is a simple hookup and controller.


I have used it.  It is a quality piece and I will use one again in the future.  It is very easy to hook up and get running.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: QUICKSHIFT on March 27, 2010, 11:24:57 PM
On my 84 Cougar, I mounted the controller on the support in front of the rad (pass side)that attaches to the grill support. It's close to the inlet of the rad for the sensor and close to the battery for hook-up.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: boss9 on March 28, 2010, 10:07:50 PM
Thanks for all the responses guys. I've been studying for an EPA refrigeration test and haven't had time to mess with the Bird. I got the location for the controller figured out thanks to your suggestions. Just have to get some padding to put between the shroud and the radiator, then install it. Hoping to get a lot done before April 17th, going to a local cruise and dyno day.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: Bob on March 29, 2010, 01:41:04 AM
Quote from: 86caprirs;315913
Not to mention with the TC nose.....You want to make sure you get flow even sitting at lights.

Has anyone used the DC controller? I hear it is a simple hookup and controller.


i've used it too, buy the indictor light too... it shows green when fan is off, yellow when 50%, and red when 100%.  You will be very surprised to see you fan off during highway speeds on a warm to hot day.  The airflow kicked up through the radiator is plenty to keep it cool. 

I have one on my cougar with a mark8 fan. It's the same setup from my old tbird 306 combo,  a/c on stuck in traffic, 96* out and no problems.  It is very loud when the fan is at 100%
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: 86caprirs on March 29, 2010, 10:05:47 PM
I have a Mark 8 fan that I have to install when I get my 351w in the bird. How did you guys mount the Mark 8 fan?

Sorry Boss9. Don't mean to steal your thread.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: boss9 on March 30, 2010, 05:19:17 AM
Quote from: 86caprirs;316436

Sorry Boss9. Don't mean to steal your thread.


No worries, we're all after info ! :burnout:
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: 88FoxBird on April 02, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
Hey Boss does your car have a TC nose on it?
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: boss9 on April 02, 2010, 07:33:53 PM
Quote from: 88FoxBird;316867
Hey Boss does your car have a TC nose on it?


 Nope wish I had one though. :D
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: 88FoxBird on April 02, 2010, 07:59:10 PM
I couldnt remember if you did or not. I may have one if your interested.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: boss9 on April 02, 2010, 08:40:06 PM
Quote from: 88FoxBird;316883
I couldnt remember if you did or not. I may have one if your interested.


Cool, just around the corner. Let me know. Had mine out today. Just trying to get it ready for cruisin.  PO has this carb all FUBAR'd . And I'm completely fuel system retarded :mullet: !Thought about going around the block by you but decided against it since I won't have tags till tomorrow.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: 88FoxBird on April 02, 2010, 08:45:28 PM
I take it you were able get those collector tags for it.

Back on topic for now, I'm running a Proform electric fan with one of those built in t-stats in the Cougar, not sure how well I like it yet.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: boss9 on April 02, 2010, 09:56:11 PM
Quote from: 88FoxBird;316890
I take it you were able get those collector tags for it.

Back on topic for now, I'm running a Proform electric fan with one of those built in t-stats in the Cougar, not sure how well I like it yet.


Won't know about the "collector" tags till tomorrow.
The fan that's another story. Hooked it up per instructions. Warmed it up and nothing. Shut it off after a few runs up and down the street, then it came on. Either the radiator probe is screwy or the temp gauge (Sunpro) is off. Have to wait for plates before I can really check it out.
Title: Anyone using a Taurus fan ?
Post by: 88FoxBird on April 02, 2010, 10:10:22 PM
Took me forever to get mine dialed in somewhat right. I got some suspension issues to deal with right now before I can mess with it anymore.