I just separated the AOD from the 3.8 to use with my 5.0. Is the converter usable? or do I need one for a 5.0 .
I also have a flywheel from my C6 that bolts to a 5.0 and matches up to the flywheel of the 3.8. ( except for the motor bolt holes) Is this usable with my AOD? If not, what do I need to use my 3.8 AOD with my new 5.0?
You need the trans. I have. Not sure about the FW, but I have one from mine if you need it.
That trans won't last too long behind your combo jerry.
One out of an sc would be a better bet.
The convertor will be too tight as well,you'll want something more in the 2400-3000 range.
Well my GT40 5.0 blew up a stock V8 AOD. If you're using GT40 heads/intake on your car there is a good chance you'll kill the V6 AOD faster than I killed my V8 AOD :hick:
The V6 converter is actually SLIGHTLY looser than the stock 5.0 converter from what I understand, but it aint gonna be near enough.
yes the V6 converter has a higher stall, I'm not sure how much, but behind a 5.o ho I noticed the difference when I went from a V6 converter to a V8 converter.
The Converter out of a Mark VII has the highest stall out of them all.
You still need mine, I guess nobody got the answer you asked, I'm not sure. Do the teeth line up, same amount?, and all the holes line up?
You still have to check the balance weight.....
I thought of that to, but it came from a 302, I didn't want to confuse him more. Maybe I should.
Bye the way not many C6's were bolted to 302's. Maybe you should use it? With that big shifter, You may have to redo that console though! lol.
would it make sense to use the C6 for now? It seems to be the consensus that I will kill the 3.8 aod.
I'm not even planning on cruising the 87, now that I got the vert for that. the 87 will be possibly show only, and probably a couple runs at the track. (maybe) if I even let it out of the garage. lol
The speed limit on this island is only 45, and I don't plan on leaving it with the 87 unless its on a trailer anyway.
That c6 is a tough trans, and it will break the speed limit.
But you still need mine for originality.lol, I think I just unsold a tranny.
ok, let's hear it.....Aod from a 3.8, or C6? I'll need something, and I already have both, including the shortened DS for the C6, and mount for it.
This doesn't have to be permanent setup for the car, but with all the rebuilding and upgrades, another Aod is going to cost more then I want to spend this year with a motor rebuild happening.
What can I say. Go for it!!
Still say for the money it is going to cost you to get a custom driveshaft for the c6 and loosing od, you should try to find an aod out of a supercoupe.
They were the strongest of the aod's and handled 300+lbs feet of torque out of the box.
Go on sccoa and put up a wanted add in your area,you'll definetley find one for cheap and it will bolt right up.
How much do they usually go for?
And I have the DS for the C6 already
The sc aod is not that bad, You need something built . ford sucks at there aod's. sc or whatever. The sc never had the torque a built 302 has to kill it.
He doesn't care about the highway, That C6 would be ideal. ic, you should put in here what your goals are to get some different opinions.
kitz, my goal right now is to get it together and moving under it's own power. There's a bunch of stuff that need to be sorted out after the swap, as well as upgrades. It'll probably be another year to get everything sorted out and totally back together after it gets painted. If I wait for everything that I want on the car, It'll be 5 more years before it gets finished. I need to concentrate on getting it back together and then upgrading whatever is left. Who knows Kitz, maybe I'll have your AOD in my car next year.
Btw, You guys have no idea how much I've spent on the car just to get it to this point with no motor. I'm not trying to slap it together to finish it, but like I said, I can upgrade the transmission after I get the car rolling again, and save a few bucks up for the upgrades.
I'd get KItz's AOD if you can. It would work great if you ever intend to drive the car on the highway, ever. You could use the C6 for now and swap in a nice AOD later. For a nice, built, AOD and a good converter (ie a Precision Industries converter) you're looking at a price tag at or north of $2000. I know because I'm going through this process right now. :hick:
Oh and do you know what balance weight the flywheel has on it? It should be a 50oz weight (to go with the crank balance) or you'll vibrate the motor to death....
Makes sense. I wonder if it's higher than a Mustang's and maybe the extra weight of the Mark VII actually taken into consideration....
Thinking about the man-hours alone is quite staggering.... ;)
No idea, it was all on the parts bird when I got it. it didn't vibrate that I noticed. How do I find out?
They usually say but the marking may have rubbed/rusted away.
I'll look tomorrow
The T-Bird had the 50 oz.......
Your right about the sc not having the torque of a built 302 but i was not talking about a built motor.
What i was saying is that the sc's aod was built tougher in stock form to handle more torque than the mustang aod.
The transmission strength and longevity also depends on how you treat it.
If you go around town doing neutral drops and brake stands all the time no stock trans will handle that(drive your car for the parts you have not the parts you want) and will grenade.
I run a stock clutched mustang aod with a 24-2600 stall and a valvebody with 500+hp and it's still in the car 4yrs after i built it.
Yes i drive it like i stole it but i take it easy on the trans as much as possible until i can put my lentech in.
As for the not driving the car on the hwy,overdrive is not only for hwy use ya know,i use it anytime i'm over 70kmh(which is quite often) and it save's alot of fuel so, i don't want or need to hear about overdrive being only for the purpose of hwy,that's just BS,live in the 00s guys not the 60s.
The C6(yes i had one and it was built to handle 9sec 1/4s)is a strong trans but revs to the moon with 3.73 gears at speed in 3rd gear and it's a heavy beast as well,much heavier than the AOD.
Keep with the 80s jerry and skip the C6, stay with the AOD, just dont use the one from your 3.8L as it will go out on ya quickly with the combo you propose.
The stock 3.8 non sc AOD is the weakest of all the AOD's and is only good for the s pile unless properly built.
To answer your other question about price,under $150.00.
I've seen many sell for 150 or less on their.
Let me pm ya jerry.
PM sent back John
looks like I might have solved my AOD problem....
more later
Where we at with this Jerry?
How many miles is on the 3.8L AOD? I have a 100K mile 3.8L AOD behind my slightly built 5.0 HO. It has a Transgo and I don't use OD, except for the highway. It's still alive, but I don't beat on it to often. The AODs are not as weak as people say, especially if you put a shift kit in them, and no WOTs into OD.
Sorry, I forgot to update.
I found 1990 SC Cougar AOD, and possibly the entire car minus motor and front seats. Anyone need parts? I could possibly get the entire thing, and part it if there's a need for parts here.
As for the 3.8 AOD.. I got 110k on it, and my motor build will more then likely smoke it within a month.