So, my tbird seemed like its been getting less and less low end boost so I figured its time to change that. Guys on turboford thought that the way I had my collector designed, it would be a little detrimental to getting this big holset HX35 spooled up. My main concern was the $50 ebay wastegate I was using not to mention it would no longer go down to 12psi. Lowest it would go was 22psi :rofl: So the collector is getting remade, and twin tial 38mm Vband wastegates. I think I will also put the new engine in while I'm at it. New engine should be good to 8000+ rpm
What I started with
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New tial's
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Proposed location for the front wastegate
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Took the easy way out to get the turbo and manifold out - took head off :facepalm:
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Hmm, dont think it was sealing anymore :huh:
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Header progress
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Well, This is all progressing pretty smoothly! Glad too because its gotta be back together by the end of the month to have about a week of break in time before going racing!
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holy bundle of snakes, batman!
You gonna make the wastegates dump out of stacks coming out of the hood?
nope, they will end up back in the downpipe
This will probably be the only twin scroll, twin wastegate WITH A/C in existence, ROFL
Wow, I wouldn't even know where to begin! Nice work!
Every time I see a post like this, I think "man I wish I could weld". Then I think "man I wish I had a place to weld", then I think "man, I wish I even had something worth welding"... In other words I am jealous and envious of your skills and your nice shiney stuff, heh.
That stuff hurts my mind.
:rollin::rollin:
I think you need a bigger [SIZE="7"]TURBO COUPE[/SIZE] badge on the trunk lid;)
That looks significantly better than your last collector. It will be interesting to see how it works.
Holy boosted Bird shiznit Batman! That's awesome!
Out of curiosity, are you going to build a brace or bracket of sorts to help hold all that up, or is all to be "hung" off of the exhaust bolts/studs?
Forgive my ignorance, just can't imagine that being a featherweight setup there...:D
Who said anything about featherweight? Rofl. Two ton Autocross car.
You're gonna throw me out the passenger window this year huh?
You bet!
As for the brace, I had one going to the block before, but it was absolutely impossible to get in or out with the head on, so maybe I can move it to a motormount bolt or something so it wont get caught on stuff.
Looking good man, keep up the updates.
looks like you might need a bigger turbo after all the work your doing.
:rollin: "Holy boosted bird shiznit Batman!" I think I'm just going to have to remember that one... :rollin:
Very apt description I might add. Very apt indeed.
Shiny Side Up!
Bill
Nope. Still not even close to having this one maxed out yet. 26psi made 346whp/398wtq and these turbos are good for high 30psi or more. Gotta love diesel turbos:hick:
Got a test fit in the car done today and refit the downpipe since I leveled out the turbo . Fits almost better than I thought it would. NO interference at all with a/c stuff and it no longer hits the pipe coming from the heater core :thumbsup:
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almost done. Just need to make bracing for it :w00t:
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I wanted to hear dual wastegate dumps :(
i didnt! lol
Well... when you build the header for my B6T (see: http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=27435) can you put four wastegates dumped to atmo on it? Plz plz plz plz???
Sorry brad.
bracing is done, just need paint :w00t: Except I couldnt come up with any way to brace it to the block :thumbsdown: but that just makes it easier to get out of there :rofl:
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more progress!!
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Very nice!
this is so weird i love it!!!
Nice!
I have a split scroll turbo here I thought about using down the road on something. No real plans for it at present though.
What material is on the header now? Looks pretty nice all one color.
Good luck with the revised setup! Should get great response with it.
its just high temp header paint. VHT flameproof or something like that. The BBQ paint I used on the turbine housing actually held up fairly well and the ceramic coating I had put on the header originally didnt hold up very well anyway so it'll look nice for a little while, lol.
You didn't have luck with the ceramic? That's interesting.
I'm going to be yanking my hotside to paint and wrap it soon, and am looking for options. I've used the BBQ black in the past with decent results, also, so maybe I'll just stay with that.
One other question, Fordguy. I like the way you modified your AC lines to route the away from heat as much as possible. Did you just go to a local hydraulic hose shop to get those made up?
On an aside note, my neighbor got one of those 42mm wastegates for his 2.3 BMW, and it was a POS also. It never sealed and leaked right out of the box.
Those Tials are gonna be great, and having two is really the way to go on a split scroll. Good engineering, bud!
well, the ceramic was good till my distributor loosened and turned 25 degrees retarded at autox. All the header stuff got so hot, the ceramic flaked off and melted the a/c drain off the firewall. The a/c hose was made up at a local autoparts store. Although I have yet to be able to get the a/c system to be completely sealed. All the refridgerant keeps leaking out.
Thanks for the info. Good luck this year with it!
hmm, something missing :sad:
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New engine getting parts
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Ready to go in!
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New engine in
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That block looks really nice. You didnt paint the trans though??? ha
You gonna need an underdrive so you dont spin your accessories at 10000 rpm? That'd be some cold AC.
Why's the trans need to be painted brad?? Ya cant see it!! And the a/c compressor will never see that rpm because it will never be on while under that kind of rpm. Though the p/s and alt may, lol.
Hmm, looks like I actually got something done tonight!
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Not going to be too much longer before its ready to start, but I still have to sort out attatching the lines to the wastegates and the final routing of the turbo oil drainback.
I was kiddin bout the paint.
The overspun power steering will be nice for autox. The overspun alt will help charge the flux capacitor disguised as a holset.
Got this running friday, and its making boost much better! 5psi by 2100rpm so once I get it all ironed out, it should be able to make the full 25+psi by 3000rpm!
Awesome...gonna dyno it?
We'll need a video too....puhlease!?
:D:bowdown:
Great news. Keep us posted!