Fox T-Bird/Cougar Forums

General => Lounge => Topic started by: t3skidoo on January 27, 2010, 01:13:26 AM

Title: new year's progress
Post by: t3skidoo on January 27, 2010, 01:13:26 AM
The garage is cleaned up and ready for action.

All four tires are back on the ground, finally.  New rear gears and speedo gear are in the car, front wheels are spaced properly after the suspension travel mods, so it's finally ready for a 4 corner alignment.  I might even change the stance a bit, drop the front ~.5" lower than the rear.

Driving it during the transition period (before the new motor) should be interesting, 410s are a big jump from 355s. 

The new motor is home from the machine shop (finally).  I'm still trying to figure out the transmission, so in the end I may have to change the rear gears again.  :punchballs: Next time, a professional is doing it.  Pulling the pumpkin was not too bad, but getting it back in there solo was a PITA.  On top of that, I probably spilled as much diff fluid as went in.

I know most of you guys are V8 fans, but here's a pic anyway.  This is a mock up of the motor.  The short block is complete but the head isn't torqued.    I may even drive it without a turbo for a while so as to get some things sorted, ie turbo controls, turbo, ecu, accessories.
Title: new year's progress
Post by: DVP on January 27, 2010, 01:16:18 AM
Volvo head? I know nothing about 2.3Ts
Title: new year's progress
Post by: rancheronut on January 27, 2010, 01:16:38 AM
cool, what head is on your 2.3?
Title: new year's progress
Post by: t3skidoo on January 27, 2010, 02:21:25 AM
yup, that's a volvo twin cam head.  twice the cams, twice the valves, twice the boost hopefully equals four times the power.  we'll see.
Title: new year's progress
Post by: Chuck W on January 27, 2010, 07:21:27 AM
I've thought about a Folvo set-up myself, but in the end I would just have no place to put it :p

Which route did you go on the oiling? Internal or external?

Some of us can see and appreciate engines with less than 8 cylinders, so keep us updated on the progress.
Title: new year's progress
Post by: 86XR7project on January 27, 2010, 08:10:16 AM
Quote from: Chuck W;308102
Some of us can see and appreciate engines with less than 8 cylinders, so keep us updated on the progress.


Amen!

I think that the car will be real unique in the end. Are the Volvo headed 2.3's pretty good or just different? I'm kind of curious what sort of Hp gains one stands to benefit from.
Title: new year's progress
Post by: 50tbrd88 on January 27, 2010, 08:49:47 AM
Nice work...keep us updated.  I remember reading about the Volvo head swap in the past.  Remind me,  does it bolt right up or is there some extra work involved?
Title: new year's progress
Post by: Chuck W on January 27, 2010, 08:54:27 AM
Quote from: 50tbrd88;308108
Nice work...keep us updated.  I remember reading about the Volvo head swap in the past.  Remind me,  does it bolt right up or is there some extra work involved?


There is some extra work involved, but nothing catastrophoic.  There are a couple ways to go about things to get it done.
Title: new year's progress
Post by: 88turbo on January 27, 2010, 12:42:59 PM
oooo oooo  tell me more!!!!
Title: new year's progress
Post by: rancheronut on January 27, 2010, 01:39:22 PM
i think ford should have done the twin cam head on the 2.3.
look forwards to hearing how she runs!
Title: new year's progress
Post by: t3skidoo on January 27, 2010, 04:12:22 PM
I'm just about ready to complete the summary.  Yes, the dreaded powerpoint presentation!  Hopefully it will make things really easy to follow, as most of the changes are best explained visually.  I'm documenting as I go, and it's been slow going.

Regarding power and sound.  There are a few running conversions.  At least two different youtube videos, one of them the impressive Phil Marshall XR smoking tires on a dyno at Carlisle.
Title: new year's progress
Post by: 1Bad88tbird on January 27, 2010, 05:24:08 PM
Sweet! That's deffinately different!
Title: new year's progress
Post by: gumby on January 27, 2010, 06:04:50 PM
glad to hear you are making progress! i was wondering today actually, how things were goin for ya.
Title: new year's progress
Post by: t3skidoo on February 01, 2010, 11:13:12 PM
Chuck, don't you have one of those boxy Volvos?  Wouldn't a transplanting a ford shortblock be a possibility?

Rancheronut, Ford did prototypes I think.  Too bad they didn't do it.

1Bad88tbird,  thanks

Gumby, once we get our cars side by side, I'm hoping to convince you to do the head swap (if you haven't already by that time).
Title: new year's progress
Post by: Chuck W on February 02, 2010, 12:17:47 AM
Quote from: t3skidoo;308937
Chuck, don't you have one of those boxy Volvos?  Wouldn't a transplanting a ford shortblock be a possibility?

Rancheronut, Ford did prototypes I think.  Too bad they didn't do it.



My Volvo has the 8V B21FT engine.  The car is my driver, and it's going to stay mostly unmolested. At least it's not going to get a drive-line swap.

Ford did do a couple prototypes.  The "problem" was it would have out-performed the 5.0.  And we know that couldn't happen.  Rivers would have started to flow backwards, and there'd be dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria. :rolleyes:
Title: new year's progress
Post by: DVP on February 02, 2010, 01:10:35 AM
Quote from: t3skidoo;308129
I'm just about ready to complete the summary.  Yes, the dreaded powerpoint presentation!  Hopefully it will make things really easy to follow, as most of the changes are best explained visually.  I'm documenting as I go, and it's been slow going.

Regarding power and sound.  There are a few running conversions.  At least two different youtube videos, one of them the impressive Phil Marshall XR smoking tires on a dyno at Carlisle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnFjfmzuuM (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnFjfmzuuM")
Title: new year's progress
Post by: Beau on February 02, 2010, 02:45:36 AM
Quote from: Chuck W;308942
it would have out-performed the 5.0.  And we know that couldn't happen.:rolleyes:

This makes me think of what GM did with the LS engines.

If only Ford had applied that sort of thinking to the small Windsors...
AND added 4-valve, or 3-valve heads to it..."gee it makes sense. we best not then." :toilet:
Well, we all know Ford had their collective heads up their collective asses for most of the 90's.

But anywho, this is about a Folvo 2.3, so I'll back off my rant, and say cool! :D
Title: new year's progress
Post by: gumby on February 02, 2010, 05:24:51 PM
Quote from: t3skidoo;308937

Gumby, once we get our cars side by side, I'm hoping to convince you to do the head swap (if you haven't already by that time).


i am strongly considering the folvo option as a means to lose weight in the engine bay. leaning toward 8v right now. lighter and less complex with a cheaper aftermarket.

a real world test ride/drive could easily change a persons outlook though :burnout: