is it possible to remove the oil pan from a 5.0 in our cars while the engine is in the car? I'm asking because I was in a hurry to get the engine in because I only had the hoist for the day and now I need to pull the pan to install some parts. anyone done this?
I thinks it's possible if the exhaust is unbolted,and you can lift the engine enough from the bottom then wedge something sturdy under the motor mounts to support it while you remove the pan.It's probably easier to just lift the engine though.Is there someone around that can loan or rent you a hoist?They rent them around here for $25.00 a day.My friend and I bought one together.Good investment.
not sure on the rental. there is no exhaust installed yet so there are no worries there. the engine is basically sitting in the car not really bolted in yet. I was thinking that I could place the jack under the transmission bell and lift the engine enough but I wanted to make sure that there would be enough room to wiggle the pan out.
You can't support it by the tranny,because you'll have to pull the pan out towards the rear of the engine.If you can unbolt the tranny from the cross member,and lower one side of the tranny crossmember,it may let you lift the engine higher while the tranny drops down to allow the engine to raise higher.No hoses are hooked up are there.If not,that'll help too.Getting the gasket (use a one piece) will be a little tricky.Mine came with cool little gasket retainers to hold the gasket to the block.
I've changed oil pumps like this-what a pain in the ass!! The pan wont come out because of the oil pump in the front sump. Why do you need to remove the pan? Easier to wait until you can pull the motor back out.
I need to pull the pan to install the pick up tube and an oil pump drive. this is the engine I had in my 79 cougar and thought I bombshelled come to find out I flattened the cam. by lifting the engine from the tranny I can get the pan down far enough that I can do what I need shouldnt be too hard of a task to do with the pan sitting on the crossmember I wouldnt think. I have worked in tighter situations before. Vinnie, what gasket did you use?
Summit pn : FEL-OS34508R
Rubber with steel core 1 piece oil pan gasket. I love this thing. Ive used it in quite a few 5.0's ive done for people
same gasket I found at the local part store. this is what I will be using :)
its a pain in the butt getting the gasket around the pump-but I've finished the job in an afternoon.
well I'm not really in any hurry to get this done. just getting really excited :)
Sure. put the car on a lift, support the motor under the balancer, and drop the k-member. :)
Just wait until you can lift the engine.It's the quickest and easiest way.
On a 5.0 Bird it's one of thos projects that once you've done one, you'll never try another... In fact I bailed in the middle and pulled the engine after I got the pan off...
I did a 4cyl Stang and it was a piece of cake...
I dont think it will be all that bad.... does anyone know the thread specs for the nut that holds the pickup tube to the main bolt?
The steel core rubber gaskets are about the only ones that won't leak on a 302 oil pan.
It can be done I did it, but it's not easy, I pulled the steering rack for some extra clearance. watch that the fan doesn't go into the rad. the bolt that holds the pickup to the main, if I remember was a 9/16 nut. It's a blind and awkward job to do.
I was asking about the nut because I will have to get another. I need to know the pitch and thread per inch
I went thought this, my answer is NO the oil pump and the pick up did not help them w/ the engine hoist the engine could only go so high w/ the trany attached and hitting the firewall. I wasted hours on this then I just pulled the motor. I did not have a lift, did this on my back apparently it is possible if you have a car lift.
I have the car sitting as high as it can on jackstands, it will be an easy job as long as I can locate a nut to hold the pickup tube.
Got a tree? Know anybody that has a come-along? ;)
Hell of a lot easier than doing it the hard way lol.
Wish I could make a road-trip, I'd bring my hoist, the door glass you need, and a few other little goodies. ;)
Truck would eat me alive in gas money though...
the way I have it sitting will make things easy enough, thanks for the offers though buddy your more than welcome to come down any time.
This is the reason my engine got rebuilt. I needed to pull the oil pan to replace the rear oil drain plug. I said screw it and pulled the motor and rebuilt it;)
He just put the motor in, have to wonder why he needs to fix the pump though?
extremely low budget build here, I dont have an engine hoist. The engine I am using was the one pulled from my cougar and was stripped of all useable parts to build its current engine. since I only had the hoist for the one day I decided to put the engine and tranny together and drop it in rather than having a car less engine and engine/tranny sitting on the ground that I couldnt do anything with. at the time I didnt have the money to put the parts needed into the crank case so in it went and was to be dealt with at a later time. this is why I need to pull the pan to install the oil pump drive and pick up tube. :D
Like I said earlier it can be done. you will be working blind.
not something I havent done before. and I can see everything up in there that I need to see. want to come help? :)
Sure, if your were up the road a bit, your on your own. GL
thanks buddy
Sorry to be the barrier of bad news but you need at least an engine hoist dude.