What's the casting # that should be on the block for a 302 that came out of a bird in 87.
The # on the block that I found are 28 E7TE CA.. Does this sound correct for the vehicle?
It's by the starter aera on the block.Should have an XXX or YYY in the valley.The number you show should be it.
E7 id's the casting as a '87, the "T" is truck application which is a bit surprising, but I had a '85 truck block that was cast for roller lifters just not machined... "E" is engine, no surprise there...
All about Ford casting numbers...
http://www.mustangtek.com/FordDecode.html
That's where I found the #
Under where the starter would be
looked like this
.. . 28
. . E7TE
.. . CA
When I originally bought the "parts bird", I was told that the motor had been replaced with a mustang motor years ago.
If it had the E6 heads, you can bet it was likely the original engine... Those use 3/4" reach spark plugs whereas all the Stangs(other than '86) use 1/2" reach plugs... A '86 engine would likely have a E6 or earlier casting #... Possibly if it were a late engine it may have a '87 casting...
The machined area behind the intake should have eight digits... Two will be letters that are the year and assembly plant of the vehicle, followed by six numbers that are the consecutive unit number of the vehicle(last six digits of VIN)...
I'll be investigating all that tomorrow. I guess this is just like the rest of my project. I never know what I have until I get into it. Life is going to be boring when this car is done.
As long as it's a roller block you're good to go :D
Did this replace the # letter # date code of earlier years?
I'm not sure what you are referring to... All the digits I mentioned do, is verify the engine(also transmission, it has same stamp) are original to the vehicle... Has nothing to do with actual mfg of engine, though the accepted time frame is approx six weeks or less(there are exceptions though) from the time the engine parts were cast, till it was installed into a vehicle on the assembly line...
I don't know on my Bird(of course it doesn't have orig engine), but my Cobra Jet Fairlane's original heads were cast Sept 5 & 7th & block Sept 11, car was built Oct 3... Currently it has a set of heads from another engine that were cast late in Sept(25th I believe), the vehicle it came from was built Oct 11... For my car, those heads are "pushing it" to be date correct, but at least were cast prior to the car being built...
I was referring to the Ford date code, such as 9J11 which is September 11th , 1969.
other than that code, and the casting code (6015) I'm not aware of any lengthy numbers on the block, but again, most all my engines have been pre-80. So I was curious.
The number I'm talking about is stamped into the block & transmission at the assembly plant, original casting numbers still apply...
BTW the stamp I'm referring to has been required by federal law since Jan 1 '68, my '69 Fairlane has the same stamping(year, plant, consec six) on the rear of the block just below the deck surface for the left cylinder head...
All I found today in that location was a giant S and 2 more #s.
I'm still searching the block for the id/vin number
Here it is on the 5.0 in my TC... Upside down but reads GX686771, "G" 1986, "X" is Wixom MI assly plant, and 686771 was the LSC consec)...
(http://members.pen 15s.net/turbocoupe50/5.0vin.jpg)
Looks like I'll have to clear away more gunk on mine
Ok, I know what you're talking about now.
Stamped vs cast. I gotcha. Mine's under the intake. (351W and 400)
Flatheads in the late 40's early 50's had stamped numbers, too. In about the same spot.
Stamped vs cast. I gotcha. Mine's under the intake.
Can't be under the intake, it is stamped on a complete engine at the assembly pant... There is usually date stampings done during engine assembly, but will have nothing to do with the vehicle assembly plant...
I believe it is on the back of the block, on left side on most all Ford engines excepting for the 255/289/302/5.0...
Yep, I found it on the back face below the left head on the 351W. Still on top on the 400, but the intake doesn't cover that part of the surface....on the right side. I found it right away on the 400, since the intake was removed, and then looked in the same spot on the 351W, and that was being lazy on my part, apparently, lol. And here' I've always been going by the casting date code, lol, thanks! (goes to show I'm not an engine guru)
OK I didn't know the number was in same spot on a 400, should mean a 351M is same...
BTW that 400 is the only one I can really make out but looks as if it starts with 5P, that would mean '75, Twin Cities assembly plant... Prior to '81 a number ID the year...