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Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: Sancho on December 09, 2009, 04:30:35 PM
Anybody else done this?  Its required in many industries now for tool control and prevention of FOD.  As I've worked with these boxes before it has become obvious you can be brutally efficient using them and it somewhat prevents losing tools.  Anyone else got their boxes setup like this?  Planning on starting mine tonight.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on December 09, 2009, 05:38:14 PM
How do you mean by "shadowing"?
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: HAVI on December 09, 2009, 06:08:17 PM
draw outlines around where the tool goes, and variations of.  We do it at work.  At home I started to, only because my memory is starting to fail. :hick:
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: vinnietbird on December 09, 2009, 06:24:44 PM
No shadowing for me.I have everything where it needs to go,but I know my tools so well,and I have mild OCD that I clean and replace them every time I use them.I haven't heard the word "FOD" (foreign object damage) since my old Air Force days.LOL.The top drawer,the biggest,is for cool pieces for the Sport and items for the engine/differential swap that I haven't used yet.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: daminc on December 09, 2009, 06:27:30 PM
I have no space between my tools to draw anything.. I think I need another tool cabinet.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on December 09, 2009, 06:48:09 PM
Ahh. Mine is not "shadowed" in that sense, but I do have all of my sockets and wrenches stuck to racks in order, so if one's missing I know it.

Vinnie, I've got a drawer for small T-Bird parts too. It causes a bit of confusion for visitors to my garage, because I've got it labeled "Chicken parts" :hick:
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: vinnietbird on December 09, 2009, 06:54:31 PM
I have my sockets on racks as well.As far as labeling the drawer for "Chicken parts",Mine has a vinyl graphic I had made that simply states "For the Sport" and under the lid is a big "FPR" Australian decal (sweeeeet).. My friends didn't get it,but they don't need to,it's my tool box.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: daminc on December 09, 2009, 07:09:54 PM
Yep, I got all my sockets on racks also. Makes life easy, and a bit more portable.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: Sancho on December 09, 2009, 10:56:43 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;301891
No shadowing for me.I have everything where it needs to go,but I know my tools so well,and I have mild OCD that I clean and replace them every time I use them.I haven't heard the word "FOD" (foreign object damage) since my old Air Force days.LOL.The top drawer,the biggest,is for cool pieces for the Sport and items for the engine/differential swap that I haven't used yet.


You got it, dont want that screwdriver sucked through the turbo ;)  I finished two drawers tonight... its a lot of work, and it eats a lot of real estate in a hurry, but it does look pretty nice.

I have action packers for tbird parts stacked into a workbench of sorts lol
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: ProTouring442 on December 10, 2009, 08:40:40 AM
Yeah, there is no way I could do that, and my box is 60 X 24! The screwdriver drawer is way too full for such shenanigans, as is the area dedicated to extensions and ratchets. I think I'd need 2 more 60 X 24 tool boxes to be able to separate everything so nicely! I dunno... sounds like a solution in search of a problem to me. 

Shiny Side Up!
Bill
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: Sancho on December 10, 2009, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: ProTouring442;301948
Yeah, there is no way I could do that, and my box is 60 X 24! The screwdriver drawer is way too full for such shenanigans, as is the area dedicated to extensions and ratchets. I think I'd need 2 more 60 X 24 tool boxes to be able to separate everything so nicely! I dunno... sounds like a solution in search of a problem to me. 

Shiny Side Up!
Bill


Its really only required for aviation work, i.e. "where did I put that screwdriver?" as the helicopter/plane is spooling up on the tarmac.  The screwdriver drawer was the worst, lots of odd shapes and cutouts to fit everything.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: ProTouring442 on December 10, 2009, 04:21:02 PM
Quote from: Sancho;301974
Its really only required for aviation work, i.e. "where did I put that screwdriver?" as the helicopter/plane is spooling up on the tarmac.  The screwdriver drawer was the worst, lots of odd shapes and cutouts to fit everything.


Yeah, for aviation it does make a lot of sense. Not exactly the sort of place you want to loose a screwdriver, or a socket!


Shiny Side Up!
Bill
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: V8Demon on December 10, 2009, 04:36:32 PM
aAs  former Air Force man, it's habit for me to shadow my toolboxes.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: ~AC on December 10, 2009, 05:56:38 PM
my dad has an at least 4000lb toolbox.  its a 3800 or whatever the biggest van gmc has (5500?).  he couldnt shadow his tools.  he'd get frustraited b/c he's got 2 trucks that need a repair and also has to do 3-5 PM's.. they're always on the opposite side of atlanta, so while he's in a hurry he would end up ripping the foam out cussin at it like a cheap prostitute.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: Kitz Kat on December 10, 2009, 07:02:05 PM
I have a service truck, There's no way in hell I can shadow anything.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: tbird66 on December 10, 2009, 07:34:13 PM
No "shadowing " for me,my rollaway has all the plastic organizers that Craftsman makes. Also,like Vinnietbird,i clean every tool before i put them back so i would know if something was missing.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: FLSTCI71 on December 10, 2009, 10:18:43 PM
Just like most everyone above, I don't have enough room for proper shadowing. So, I put the sockets on racks, wrenches in holders and call it good.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: daminc on December 10, 2009, 11:01:47 PM
Quote from: flstci71;302043
just like most everyone above, i don't have enough room for proper shadowing. So, i put the sockets on racks, wrenches in holders and call it good.


x2
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: jcassity on December 10, 2009, 11:54:24 PM
I always have time to figure out a way to not have the same problem everyone else has.........
"where the hell is my "

these pics are old but each tool is outlined.  where there is a duplicate, "x2" is written in the outline.

I did this to our shop in Iraq,, the army guys coulnt figure out what the hell was going on.  Apparently only a select few people in the world get real experince with tool control but all it takes is one death to figure out its importance.  once you do it,, your hooked for life though.

Navy has the following process for tool control.

each tool box or drawer has a foam pad about 1/2'' -1'' thick.  The top is painted with RED color.  A tool is traced on the red surface then the outline is cut out to about 1/4'' deep.  This leaves a black empty spot where a tool should be.  In addition, the position is numberd by a lable gun such as the number "1". this number 1 is placed in a small square hold near the tool then clear silicone is put on top to allow you to see the number plus keep the number in place.
Each tool box had an inventory paper and a bagie the paper called home.  the baggie and the inventory page were also on the inventory.


during shift change, two shifts are in shop at the same time for 30minutes.
all tools are accounted for and that is when the prior shift is allowed to leave.

here is the flow.......

step 1- you go the the shop supervisor and ask for the master key box. 
step 2- you unlock wall mounted master key lock box
step 3- remove log book and sign out the key to any available tool box / drawer. place log book back in master key box , remove key, lock the master key lock box. return master key lock box to the supervisor.
step 4- unlock your tool box and inventory each tool.

A- if tools are present, proceed with your shift and duties. at the end of the shift, you reverse the above process.

b- if tool missing,
the prior shift stays put
specific tech who had that box signed out is the primary responsible person.
equipment tech had worked on is pulled from supply for inspecton
if the equipment went out the door to an aircraft, that aircraft is downed.
The O level squardron is alerted and thier entire shop / shift partites in finding the tool.

99 times out of 100, the tool is found.
if it is not, then it is what it is.

sometimes a tech may have signed out a tool box and did not do inventory and the tool was already missing therefore the previous shift and the parts repaired by that shifts tech are alos inspected. 

I remember once an allen wrench lost from our shop ended up involving the USS Enterprise because parts departed our I level maint, went out on truck via an "X REP", went to Norfolk airstation where the parts were in transit on a C130 in route to the West Coast.  Needless to say, the part was found in a F14D throttle quadrant.  Tiny micro switches required a tiny little allen wrench to adjust thier position.  The allen wrench was in the Throttle Quadrant.

It was finally found out that two shifts had expired before mid shift found the missing tool.
Title: Anbody Shadow their Tool box?
Post by: ~AC on December 11, 2009, 04:09:13 AM
LOL i bet if you moved out of the house and left it like that.. it'd be perfect for a horror film after 20 years.

all of the tools i own are in my trunk. im thinking about getting a chest for them... i have a tray for small stuff like fusses, wrenches, screw drivers, small stuff like that.  the rest "float" around the recess in the miata.  the worst part about it, if we use my tools he takes them thinking their his. his service van is like a toy box, "can i has army man?" "army man awol"