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Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: V8Demon on December 01, 2009, 04:34:28 PM
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What Happens When You Don’t Change Your Oil For 60,000 Miles

http://jalopnik.com/5415431/what-happens-when-you-dont-change-your-oil-for-60000-miles?skyline=true&s=x

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1281659

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Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: jandmmustangs on December 01, 2009, 04:37:16 PM
Oh come on that shiznit will buff out
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: Ductape91 on December 01, 2009, 05:12:00 PM
that chain doesnt say 60k oil change to me :/
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: Kitz Kat on December 01, 2009, 05:37:48 PM
Should of used the 100,000 mile oil.
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: tbirdsps on December 01, 2009, 05:53:06 PM
Way back in the 70's I new a guy who never changed oil or did almost nothing and averaged 200,000 + miles out of his Ford F-100's.  All V8s.

He did change the oil filter every 10,000 or so when he thought about it and added a quart.  He never did any other servicing what so ever.  Nothing.

His policy was to use the trucks as long as they would last and junk them.

I had a 79 Monte Carlo that I religeously changed oil and filters and it was sludged up really bad.  Couldn't even see the rocker arms.  The car leaked like a sieve and when the valve covers were removed there was all the sludge and oil.  Oil that couldn't drain back down.  What a freeking mess.  I never pulled the intake manifold and we soon sold the car to an unsuspecting dealer who had it resold in a day.  The car and the buyer were taken out by a train a week later.

On the other hand all my Fords have never had any sludge.  But I do change oil every 3-4 thousand miles.  My problem is the rest of the car falls apart while the engine keeps on ticking.:mad:
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: Ductape91 on December 01, 2009, 05:53:49 PM
after reading the thread(and the other one leading up to it) i dont see any way to actually prove this car has gone 60k without an oil change, other than taking his word for it.
the chrysler concord my brother bought was just as filthy as that under the valvecover but without the chunks. even though they have sludging issues that py car had service records proving the oil was changed every 3 months.
untill i see a vin number ran im calling bs on this.
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: vinnietbird on December 01, 2009, 06:28:18 PM
Holy  !!! And by the pics......literally "".
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: DVP on December 01, 2009, 06:47:56 PM
On of my ex's moms ran her new Grand Vetra or whatever it is (a Tracker) 10,000 I think....

I dont get it.Some ppl dont know how to pump gas either though...
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: V8Demon on December 01, 2009, 06:58:02 PM
Quote from: Ductape91;300822
that chain doesnt say 60k oil change to me :/


Wouldn't surprise me.....I have NO idea what metal the chain in those is made out of so....

I'd LOVE to have seen the pan...
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on December 01, 2009, 07:04:24 PM
Man i guess if i ever do get around to buying a 95 something m3 i should be on the watch for morons eh?
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: mercury-man on December 01, 2009, 08:24:33 PM
I dont get it.Some ppl dont know how to pump gas either though...



And the other forgotten service is rotation of the "Tires" :mad:
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: vinnietbird on December 01, 2009, 08:53:35 PM
No rotating my tires.Unidirectional and different sizes.Just the way I like it.
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: daminc on December 01, 2009, 08:55:54 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;300845
No rotating my tires.Unidirectional and different sizes.Just the way I like it.


They're all diff sizes?  that's weird. :rollin:
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: jcassity on December 02, 2009, 12:06:58 AM
this isnt trivial,,,

time lapsed and the oil got thin
owner heard tapping on the top end
got advice from someone who said engine is prob going out
was told to get some STP engine treatment

oil fill cap located directly over top of the timing chain

one can didnt do the trick but did help some so another can was added.

stuff that takes about 5min to pour out on a cold day really doesnt thin out too easily.
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: V8Demon on December 02, 2009, 06:59:44 AM
Which is why when and if you DO use STP or the like, you add oil behind it....

I've used it before on an engine that I eventually tore down......Everything was clean....
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: RunninWild on December 02, 2009, 09:59:42 AM
Quote from: DVP;300832
On of my ex's moms ran her new Grand Vetra or whatever it is (a Tracker) 10,000 I think....

I dont get it.Some ppl dont know how to pump gas either though...


Paris hilton....

Ran out of gas because she was used to her driver doing it for her.
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: Thunderbird88 on December 02, 2009, 10:11:58 AM
Quote from: RunninWild;300903
Paris hilton....

Ran out of gas because she was used to her driver doing it for her.


LOOOL!
She definetly needs abit teaching on how the world works ...
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: Dansbirds on December 02, 2009, 10:32:19 AM
I have seen quite a few motors like that. When I worked for Benz we would get them all the time where people would lease the car and figure why bother changing oil, costs to much. Then when you pull a car in put it on the lift and pull the drain plug and nothing comes out, really kind of shocking.
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: EricCoolCats on December 02, 2009, 11:20:27 AM
A few summers ago, this young girl in a Honda broke down in front of my brother's townhouse, apparently making a hellacious noise. My bro was on the front porch watching the drama unfold. She calls daddy, he shows up, they try starting the car repeatedly...my brother said you could tell that the engine was seized up. Eventually it was revealed that she never changed the oil in the car. That was over 10,000 miles before this happened. Daddy was none too happy.

He told this story to his mechanic friend who said, "You know, of all the engines that I fix, the ones in the worst shape are those in Hondas and Toyotas. It's not because they're junk engines...it's because their owners think that Hondas and Toyotas are these miracle machines that need no service, so they neglect everything. There are specific things that need done on the older ones (timing belt at 60K on a Honda engine, for example) and if you don't have that serviced precisely at that inverval, you are going to screw yourself."

So yeah...oil changes, they're just a little important. ;)
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: Beau on December 02, 2009, 12:27:18 PM
Guy shoulda just threw some cat litter in there to soak up all the oil...hey, mechanics use it! :hick:

On the floors, but hey...
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: 50tbrd88 on December 02, 2009, 02:29:07 PM
There is a old farmer/retired engineer that lives up the road from me.  When he was in college a professor told him that you didn't have to change oil in anything.  Just change the filter regularly and keep adding oil.  He has done this his whole life on countless tractors, combines, all of his vehicles, etc.  He had a '70's model Mercedes car with a diesel engine that had over 300,000 miles on it and he never changed the oil.  Granted it was pretty sick by the time he was done with it, but its true. 

I guess once they start leaking enough, by adding oil its eventually going to change itself, right?
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: thunderjet302 on December 02, 2009, 05:31:38 PM
I worry when I go 3500 miles between changes....
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: kendoo130 on December 02, 2009, 05:35:01 PM
:giggle::rollin:
Quote from: jandmmustangs;300819
Oh come on that shiznit will buff out
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: Ductape91 on December 02, 2009, 05:57:27 PM
i am blown away by the total acceptance of this balloney without any proof or debate as to the possibilities of how this could not happen the way it happened.
i thought there were some smarter eggs here :mullet:
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: 50tbrd88 on December 02, 2009, 06:49:56 PM
Quote from: Ductape91;300938
i am blown away by the total acceptance of this balloney without any proof or debate as to the possibilities of how this could not happen the way it happened.
i thought there were some smarter eggs here :mullet:


There is always a consipiracy theory guy in the group isn't there.  lol.  So why could this not have happened the way it happened?  Seems pretty cut and dry to me!  lol.
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: Ductape91 on December 02, 2009, 07:52:46 PM
i believe atleast one person on the thread(bimmerthread) mentioned that without adding oil to it the original oil(i guess you can call it that) it wouldnt have lasted that long without siezing up due to being burned up. that car wasnt brand new or low mileage either.
even if new cars still use some oil and driven for 60k without adding it i wont buy that.
the filter, lets take pics of everything else but the filter that the car had for 60k. well, can you take a pic of the filter? nope, just happen to throw it out. oh well... it wouldnt confirm everything for me but a gross oversight like that is a bit too fishy for me. if i did this and took pics there would definately be an open filter pic with that.
the guys issue wasnt like it happened yesteday either, its old by a few months. why is this being brought up now? lots of morons online trying to grab fame being the end of the year and all.
i dont doubt for a second that car was severly neglected, and i wont flame him for being an idiot for not changing his oil for that long because this kind of thing is way too common. but, for what is being claimed i dont see anything that backs this story up 100%.
if you do then fine, i dont.
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: 50tbrd88 on December 02, 2009, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: Ductape91;300954
i believe atleast one person on the thread(bimmerthread) mentioned that without adding oil to it the original oil(i guess you can call it that) it wouldnt have lasted that long without siezing up due to being burned up. that car wasnt brand new or low mileage either.
even if new cars still use some oil and driven for 60k without adding it i wont buy that.
the filter, lets take pics of everything else but the filter that the car had for 60k. well, can you take a pic of the filter? nope, just happen to throw it out. oh well... it wouldnt confirm everything for me but a gross oversight like that is a bit too fishy for me. if i did this and took pics there would definately be an open filter pic with that.
the guys issue wasnt like it happened yesteday either, its old by a few months. why is this being brought up now? lots of morons online trying to grab fame being the end of the year and all.
i dont doubt for a second that car was severly neglected, and i wont flame him for being an idiot for not changing his oil for that long because this kind of thing is way too common. but, for what is being claimed i dont see anything that backs this story up 100%.
if you do then fine, i dont.


It just looks to me like that engine has never had the oil changed.  It may have started burning oil or leaking it and the guy added to it, but there is no way all that  got in there by accident.  I think this was intended just to be a funny post about some moron who has more money than brains.  Obviously the world is full of douchers who have no clue about maintaining a vehicle and being a forum of auto enthusiast, we should find this sort of thing shocking or in the least hilarious.  I see no reason to doubt it, this type of  has to happen all the time.

Oh and not trying to be a smart ass, but what does it being end of the year have to do with it?  Just curious.

Quick story: My old high school prinl retired and started working at the local Menards for something to do.  Well one day he asked the store manager who's responsibility was it to check the oil in their loaner truck (you know the one they loan you when you buy something that is too big to haul in your BMW).  Well the manager was like "huh? I guess no one does".  So my old prinl goes out and finds that it is basically bone dry.  It was a newer Ford F-150 if I remember right.  Well, they decided to take it to the local Ford garage for a "tune up".  One of my best friends worked at the Ford dealer as a tech and told me that the truck had nearly 60,000 miles and had never had the oil changed.  His description of the primordial ooze found in the F-150 was a dead ringer for what the BMW engine pics show.  He said there was more sludge than oil.  They changed the oil, but within a week the thing locked up.  So it got a new crate motor from Ford and my old prinl took it upon himself to check the oil once a week from then on.  It seems to me that I have heard several stories about an engine being neglected (oil not changed,etc.) and then when some caring soul comes along and does some much needed maintenance, the motor doesn't last long after that.
Title: Oil change? What's that?
Post by: 187sks on December 02, 2009, 08:24:32 PM
My mom went 5 years and 45,000 miles without changing the oil in her Suzuki Sidekick. The issue came up when it started making (a much worse) noise because it was so low on oil. She hadn't added any oil in that time either. We didn't pop the valve cover to look at it because it's not my problem but my grandpa changed the oil and filter and the thing is still running.

I regularly go 10,000 miles on an oil change in my Hyundai Accent if I rack them up fairly quickly but that's with Royal Purple oil and a Wix filter. I usually change oil once before the start of autox season and once at the end of autox season, and add about 4 quarts total during the race season due to oil overflow out the breather hose.