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Title: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on April 18, 2005, 11:04:51 PM
Im looking into a 91-94 ranger 2.3, the question arises is that a murker 2.3 or a mazda. I was told it was a murker but i have always been under the impression that it was a mazda.
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Thunder Chicken on April 18, 2005, 11:09:23 PM
It's neither. It's a Ford 2.3. Same engine as in the Mustang and Turbo Coupe (although the TC is beefier, with forged pistons). The basic engine design has been around since the 70's
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Bird351 on April 18, 2005, 11:10:14 PM
The Lima, isn't it? I think my '78 Pinto had a 2.3 in it.
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: merccougar50 on April 18, 2005, 11:12:09 PM
yep.  Its the same engine as the pinto (save for a few changes). 

As a side note, contrary to popular belief:  it is completely differnet from the ford FWD 2.3L.
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on April 18, 2005, 11:13:48 PM
Nice quick responce. Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Bird351 on April 18, 2005, 11:14:14 PM
Well I sure as hell hope they'd make some changes (for the better) between 1978 and 1991. :p

On a somewhat related note, a friend and I were trying to figure out how the old Falcon he had had a small I6 with a bolt-on intake head, and my '81 Capri I6 had the infamous "log head" w/ the intake integrated into the head. It's the same series engine if I recall.. but that head seems like a change for the worse between the 60s and 80s.

I hope they didn't make any such backward "improvements" to the Lima between old and new(er).
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on April 18, 2005, 11:27:40 PM
Yeah i never thought much of those Capri's. Probably a duh factor but if i wanted to could i use a turbo from a murker2.3 on that ranger.
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Ifixyawata on April 19, 2005, 12:42:08 AM
You'd need the entire Merkur or TC motor.  As Carmen stated, the Turbo internals are stronger and a regular 2.3 will NOT last with a turbo cramming air down into it.  I've talked to a couple people who have tried it and ended up ruining the motor.
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on April 19, 2005, 01:06:26 AM
Ok thanks, i dont know one of my friends from auto tech has an extra murker Xr4ti i think the engine in that is in decent shape.
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Chuck W on April 19, 2005, 09:05:24 AM
Yup...you can use a turbo Lima 2.3 in a Ranger  :hick:

I think I can probably help you out with a swap ;)
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on April 19, 2005, 10:18:15 AM
On the subject of murkers check out this ulgy mofookie

 From what the picture discription says its an HGT 2



and thanks chuck
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: cougarman on April 19, 2005, 10:48:29 AM
That's probaly a german focus, merkur is german for mercury.
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Chuck W on April 19, 2005, 10:49:04 AM
I have no idea what the hell that is supposed to be.  "Merkur" is just german for Mercury and the "brand" Ford of Europe stuck on the XR4 and Scorpio to sell them here in the states.  It hasn't been used since (at least not here).  Where did you find that?

Also, on the turbo Ranger...check out TurboRangers.org (http://www.turborangers.org)
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on April 19, 2005, 11:15:25 AM
i was googling looking for the x4ri or what ever cryptic name they gave that  car and thanks for the link chuck. That is one ulgy german focus, but what about the Ka that is the focus twin for europe.
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Ifixyawata on April 19, 2005, 11:17:16 AM
XR4Ti seems cryptic until you decode it.  XR4 is like any other mercury package (X-Experimental R-Racing) like an XR7 or an XR3 (Mercury Lynx circa 1982).  And XR4 makes perfect sense because it's a 4-banger.  Then Ti is very simple Turbocharged-intercooled.  See?  Simple as that!
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Ifixyawata on April 19, 2005, 11:18:12 AM
Ouuu! Dammit, it just hit me!  Once I get a new car, I can tear apart my '84 TC.  That means I'll have an extra 2.3T drivetrain.  Hmmm...  *evil gears turn*
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Chuck W on April 19, 2005, 11:28:18 AM
It's a Fiat Punto....

Quote
I can tear apart my '84 TC
  *peer*


Maybe we can talk about a couple parts if you do.....
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Ifixyawata on April 19, 2005, 11:35:31 AM
Chuck, sure thing.  I'm tearing this one down to a bare shell and you have first dibs on any parts. (as long as I don't want 'em first)  It may be a couple months, maybe even after CJ, but we'll see how the car holds up.
Title: Re: 91-94 Rangers
Post by: Chuck W on April 19, 2005, 11:42:47 AM
No rush....