anyone know if last months article on the 400hp $1000 302 is online anywhere? i went to walmart to pick it up today and they put this months on the shelves last night :mad:
I have it at home, I can e-mail it to you tomorrow. Whats your e-mail?
can you send me the article too? sounds like good info. RealityRebuttal@gmail.com
douggass87@hotmail.com
It does sound like a good article, would it be to much trouble to send it to me as well?
BPowersman5000@msn.com
I don't see the article online but I do have the mag. Basically they took a boneyard EFI 5.0 from a T-Bird and installed the following:
750 Holley double pumper
Parker Single plane funnel web intake
Pro Comp 210 Heads (milled to 60cc chambers from 64cc)
TFS Track Max Cam (.499/.510 split lift, 221/225 split duration, 112 degree lobe separation)
Pro Comp roller rockers
Elgin hardened pushrods
Duraspark distributor
This combination made 399hp and 363 ft/lbs.
i'm thinking about going with the same setup, only with an EFI setup. i'm not much on carbs.
o yah, no need to email it to me, 04Ford's post told me everything i was hopeing to find. thanks for the offer though.
WOW those are some shiznitty parts. I wonder how long it will actually hold together.....
Major suckage on doing the carb thing...but hey..if cheap power gets ya off....:flip:
The numbers on the cam look decent...I agree, don't think it'd last too long.
Those Pro Comp heads are . Do a search at http://www.sbftech.com and fine out why. You'd be amazed at how bad they are.....
From Jay Allen on sbftech:
I think the whole point of the article was to twist out 400 hp on the cheap. No one stated how long it would hold up or how streetable it would be. They even reused the timing chain, oil pump, roller lifters, and the short block was untouched to keep the cost down. I was dissapointed in that they used a carb with a single plane intake and not EFI.
i'll be running either Patriot or Edelbrock E-Streets. i was mostly interested in their cam selection.
i know the Patriots are also junk, but not as bad as the Pro Comps. they probably do not flow as good, but i will clean them up as good as i can and gasket match everything as well as probably run a bigger cam. i'll be starting with an explorer bottom end so i will have to buy pistons, so that combined with the added cost of the more pricey heads will put my total at or around $2000
This sounds like a case of not enough money and time to do it right the first time. My experience with this type of scenerio is: it costs a lot more of both fix it when it turns out to be junk.
I've learned over the years not to take much stock in magazine article engine builds.
But hey, we all have our own learning curves and have to make our own mistakes. Hope you have good luck with your build!
I'll be going carb on mine and quite honestly don't care who thinks I'm an idiot. ;)
what would be bad about an explorer bottom end fitted with edelbrock e-streets, trick flow track heat intake, 70mm TB, 90mm MAF, and a Comp Cam (still undecided on grind)?
"i know the Patriots are also junk, but not as bad as the Pro Comps. they probably do not flow as good, but i will clean them up as good as i can and gasket match everything as well as probably run a bigger cam"
"If" you are interested in building it right the first time, my suggestion is to join SBFTECH.com, get 10 posts in to gain access to the Myths & Rumors section and do some reading. The education you can receive about cylinder heads, induction and camshafts can answer your question about "what would be bad about..".
Prior to the existence of that site, getting good reliable engine tech was a shot in the dark. There are tons of arm chair magazine article experts out there who will regurgitate what they've read or heard on every other internet forum out there. That is not what this site is about. Information provided (other than the Grass Roots section) comes from experts and the highly experienced. It's a great resource, use it (before you spend your cash on parts you'll regret).
A word of caution before you post: It's a no nonsense site. Get pen 15y or come off as a know it all, you'll shagged out pretty quick!
seriously, I wouldn't use the e street heads unless your never going to upgrade anything. There really not all that much better then say a gt-40 head. For a couple hundered more you could throw on any type of trickflows and gain 25+ hp all around.
cool becouse i totaly forgot! lol