I have an 84 t-bird with the 3.8L and I want to do away with all of the electronics and emission stuff and drop in a 302. need to know how much stuff is interchangeable on the 302/5.0 throught out the years. For example: will an intake from a '78 302 bolt on to a '92 5.0L? I'm used to Chevy's where EVERYTHING is interchangeable.
Well, the car was stolen today. So, hopefully it is found soon, but until then I'm stuck. Can't afford another car and didn't have insurance on this one. They must have really needed the parts, because the intake and TB were sitting in the drivers seat. Oh, well.
http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advanced/tbi_conversion.html
This link isn't an exact walk through, but gives good points on both. Any non Cleavland intake for a 302 should bolt up fine. I have heard that it is as simple as just unpluging the efi harness at the firewall, but have also heard that you will have to pull all the wires. I would assume unplugging the connector would be the easy and practical way to do it. Also, the 3.8 transmission should bolt to the new motor, but I would upgrade it while you have it out if you plan on driving the car alot.
What 302 are you thinking about? Have you thought about going 351, or a stroker setup? You will need motor mounts for a mustang to make it all work as well as exhaust. Unless you want to keep the small y-pipe with 3 cats.
Was not sure which year or car to pull the motor from. Figured I'd hunt Craigslist untill I found one for around $100. Eventually it would get dual exhaust, but the stock would work for the time being. Considered the 351, but decided I still wanted ok gas milage. The El Camino is my hot rod, the T-bird just needed a little extra. If I wanted another fast car I'd go buy another Camaro. Eventually the T-bird would have ended up all built up, but that wasn't the plan just yet. But now that it's been stolen, who knows what will happen to it.
That sucks, sorry to hear about it being stolen. I hope you get it back.
Everything on chevys is not interchangeable. They changed the 350 over the years more than ford changed the 302. Really the only thing ford changed on the 302 was internal and spark plug angle (p-heads). The small block chevy changed alot. The early small blocks didnt have mounting bolt holes in the heads for brakets and the intake had a breather built in it with none it the valve covers. They changed the heads alot over the years. They changed intake design three times. They have early model heads, early model vortec heads, and late model vortec witch none of the intakes interchange.
How did they steal a car that wasn't running?
Musta looked like this...
(http://www.ttttowing.com/photogallery/broken%20down%20pics/TTT%20CAR%20BREAKDOWN%20PHOTOS/pushing%20car.jpg)
Gone in 60 minutes! :rollin:
Don't worry man, you'll get your car back
Chevy did make a lot of changes. I guess I never really thought about before. I've owned several camaro's and now an el camino, so I know them pretty well at this point, and it's become stuff I just don't have to think about anymore. Fords are new to me. I bought this one off a friend to help him out, and now have to learn all about them. still don't like the seperate starter solonoid thing or the seperate coil, but it's still a car.
It looks like they used a winch to drag it up onto a trailed or flatbed wrecker. I was looking as the skid marks left on the pavement this morning. I'm wondering if there might be some shady wrecking yards in the area. If so, it's probably already been crushed and loaded for shipment to the recycling plant.
Sheesh! Remind me to stay the hell out of NE! If you find it, or another one, just remember where we are on the web, we'll be happy to show you the ropes on 80's Fords.
If it was parked on the street, maybe the city picked it up.
Check the impound lot.
Dude. That sounds awfully like the city. Did it have valid plates? Call the impound lot pr0nto. I picked mine up from the city auction. :yuck:
I thought the city would have to post an obnoxious colored sticker on the car for a week or so first...?
I had the city try to tow my sisters car out of the driveway when i was visiting one day. They were actually pulled into the driveway with chains on it. I pulled my car right infront of it and asked them what they were doing. They said that the city ordinance says that any running car couldn't be visible from the road. We had the hood up because we were changing the power steering belt, and had to run back to autozone cause they gave us a serpentine, and it was a v.
The guy said he had every right in the world to take it, and that there wasn't anything I could do to stop him. So I got out my check valve stem tool, or whatever its called, I took them out of 5 out of 6 of his tires till he saw what was going on. Then I found where they were located, called them and yelled at them over the phone, then called their competitor located accrossed the street from them, and told them I had a broken down tow truck in my front yard and to come get it.
Same guys that tried to tow my wifes car because we didn't drive it for two days. They put a sticker on it saying that it was inoperable. You should have seen the receptionists face when I waited in line and told her that I wanted someone to come outside and show me how its not driveable.
Wreckers must hate me by now.
Things like that make me so angry! And people wonder why everybody else hates the government/police/city/Insert body of power here.
I love what you did to his truck though, did the competitors come get it? Predatory towing is the worst business model ever...
You live in Utah. I visit Salt Lake/Ogden regularly for work. It's beautiful....but they have some seriously F'ed up laws. I wouldn't be surprised if they had laws allowing them to tow vehicles out of driveways even if they still had the dealer sticker on the window. You probably just looked at city official the wrong way.
if that is true i am at a loss for words...
I have had one of my cars towed out of my backyard, behind a 6 foot security fence. Around here, on duty cops get bribed by tow truck drivers. If they see a car that dosen't look like it will drive, they will tell the tow truck drivers, and the tow drivers will give them money out of pocket. I have watched them do it before. In one day, I had my 86 black car towed, my dad's 86 gray cougar towed, my dad's 91 crown vic wagon towed, and my sisters 96? lumina. All in the same day, and all but one was driven in less then 24 hours, and all but one had insurance and current registration.
I know I have pissed off some people I shouldn't have. I got pulled over on my dad's 81 Yamaha virago motorcycle. The registration expired before I was born, and there was no insurance, and I didn't have a motorcycle endorsp00get. I followed them to to tow yard, asked them how much it would cost to get it out, and they said $400. To have it towed less then 5 miles and not even unloaded off the flat bed yet. Me and my dad went down there that night with a set of bolt cutters and drove it home. They called the cops on us, and my dad played like he had no idea what they were talking about. The cops said that we had just as much right to pull it out as they did to keep it.
I guarantee I have made more enemies then friends. I get really inventive when I get pissed off. I went out and bought a super soaker and a gallon of gas when they tried to tow my wifes car. Slept in it overnight, and had a pack of smokes and a lighter to keep me company.
Next time your in utah, you should give me a call. Maybe meet up somewhere. Now that you think I'm a crazed lunatic.
Man, the fact that you have to get so inventive is like a flashing neon sign that says "stay the hell away from Utah" I can't believe the you've had to put up with.
Bingo. :D
Don't take it the way it sounds over the internet. If I owned a gun and saw somebody screwing around with my car, I'd be out there in 2 seconds with the gun.
If someone wants me to pay $400+ for towing a car that has no reason to be towed, and I paid $400 or less for the car, you may as well be stealing the car in my mind.
So any calls around today?
yes, back on topic. I hope you find it.
Well, I've given up on the bird ever showing up again. I can't say it was a cool car or that I'll miss it, but it did have potential. Today I picked up an 84 Monte Carlo for free and paid $350 to have it towed from the Seattle area back to portland. It needs to have the timing chain replaced and a tune up, but over all I think it was an awsome deal. Should have it running tomorrow. Now I have a '68 289/302 intake that I don't need. Guess I'll post it on Craigslist tomorrow. But first I had a question about FE stuff. What is it, and why are people wanting it? How can I identify it? the numbers on the intake are C8ZE-9425-A 7M27. So I know it is a 68 Mustang 289/302 intake made in 12/27/67, but that's it. Any help would be appreciated.
Your intake could be worth $50-$75 to someone wanting to restore a Mustang to original(I'm assuming it's a 4bbl)...
FEs are Ford's first Big Block engine introduced in 1958(actually there is another BB series[MEL]also introduced in '58, but those are basically a Lo Po Lincoln engine)... Originally in 332 & 352cu in sizes, FEs evolved into the 406, 427 Hi-Po engines(NASCAR) as well as the street 390GT('66-'69) & 428 Cobra Jet of '68-'70(there was also some Hi Po 390 in '61)... Bread and butter 352, 390, 410 & 428 powered many Galaxies, Mercs, Tbird, etc and excepting for the 428 don't have as much value as their Hi Po brethren... This group was replaced by the 385 BB series which include the 429 & 460...
I have a 428 Cobra Jet in this guy, 1969 Fairlane Cobra... The '69-'71 Cobras were Fords answer to the Plymouth Road Runner and are basically strippers with the 428Cj 4 speed and 9" rear with 31 spline axles std... Mine is some what optioned with bucket seats, console, PB(no PS) and a few other goodies... BTW '69 was the only year the Cobras had a 428CJ, 70 had a 429 and '71 had 351 Clevelands or 429 optional...
(http://members.pen 15s.net/turbocoupe50/cobra1.jpg)