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Title: Help! Relocating Cruise Control
Post by: Dogcharmer on August 17, 2009, 10:58:43 AM
I have an 86 Turbocoupe with factory cruise but I've got an aftermarket steering wheel. What I'd like to do is wire up the Octane/Antenna switch panel from an 87/88 TC for Cruise. Anybody know what wires running through the column are for cruise or is this even possible?

Electrical gurus please chime in!!!

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Help! Relocating Cruise Control
Post by: Thunder Chicken on August 17, 2009, 11:46:33 AM
You can do it, but you need to use cruise switches because the cruise buttons have internal resistors, they're not simple "on/off" switches. Here's a photo of the setup I had back when I had an aftermarket wheel:
Title: Help! Relocating Cruise Control
Post by: Dogcharmer on August 17, 2009, 11:49:52 AM
Just found a post where jcassity scanned in a bunch of great info on cruise control. It looks like there should be a 3 wire plug above the steering column that has the wires I need... and judging by the wire diagram, this shouldn't be too hard to pull off. Fingers crossed!

Quote from: Thunder Chicken;286944
You can do it, but you need to use cruise switches because the cruise buttons have internal resistors, they're not simple "on/off" switches. :


Very cool! How did you anchor the switches? Do you have any pics with the panel off? That's freakin awesome!
Title: Help! Relocating Cruise Control
Post by: JeremyB on August 17, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;286944
You can do it, but you need to use cruise switches because the cruise buttons have internal resistors, they're not simple "on/off" switches. Here's a photo of the setup I had back when I had an aftermarket wheel:

IRRC, the shop manual has the resistances listed. So you could use a 3rd party switch and manually add in resistors.
Title: Help! Relocating Cruise Control
Post by: ipsd on August 18, 2009, 10:08:05 AM
Grant makes switches to add on there aftermarket wheels so it is more than possible. You might even like the way there stuff looks but custom is always better.

Stuckman
Title: Help! Relocating Cruise Control
Post by: Watchdevil on August 18, 2009, 11:13:07 AM
In salavge yards you can also find the dealer installed cruise control turn signal stalk. It's squared off like 1983-84 models. Typically you can find them in old Ford Tempos and a few other lower trim model Fox bodied cars.

If you take off the steering column shroud, look for the brushes at the 2 o'clock position behind the steering wheel which has three contacts. The wires run off the back of this and down to the cruise control module under the left side of the dash. IIRC, it was a blue wire and black wire. The cruise switches pulls ungrounded voltage off a 3rd wire attached to the brush contacts which serves as the horn function. When that wire is grounded, it sounds the horn.
Title: Help! Relocating Cruise Control
Post by: Thunder Chicken on August 18, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: Dogcharmer;286945
Very cool! How did you anchor the switches? Do you have any pics with the panel off? That's freakin awesome!

The switches were ancd by dremel-ing out the holes in the panel, sticking the switches in from the front, and two-part-epoxying them in place from behind. You can see how I did it in the photos below. The irregular cutting (the gaps you see under the switches) was necessary to clear the switch bodies, which have protrusions in those areas.

When I did this I had to tap into the three wires in the column, but I had to cut one of them to prevent the horn blowing every time I pressed a cruise button. In my case it was likely the aftermarket wheel's slip rings causing it - the wheel's adapter only had two slip rings, and one was wide enough for two, so it likely shorted the two circuits together.

By the way, I no longer have this panel installed in the car, as I went back to a stock TC wheel. If anyone wants to buy this I'd let it go for $20 shipped...
Title: Help! Relocating Cruise Control
Post by: Dogcharmer on August 18, 2009, 12:36:40 PM
I'll buy it from ya, PM me your addy and I'll send you a money order or whatever your prefered method of payment is.

Thanks,
Scott
Title: Help! Relocating Cruise Control
Post by: ProTouring442 on August 19, 2009, 08:53:03 AM
I have a very nice Momo steering wheel I was thinking of installing. I think I'll be putting the switches in the ashtray lid on the console.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill