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Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: bhazard on August 14, 2009, 12:01:09 AM
At a truck scale in WV, supposed to be accurate to within 20 lbs.

With Me (145lbs), gf (100lbs) and full tank of gas (140lbs?) spare tire and jack, and minimal other .

3600lbs flat

Ive got the AC gutted under the hood and thats about it I think, weights on the tranny and rear end are gone.... some rust on the body.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: jrad235 on August 14, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
Now that is odd, because, I weighed mine the other day at a truck scale, and it said I weighed 2550 w/ AC, an automatic, full interior, and subs. I mean, I took out the underhood liner, but I'm sure it didn't weigh 1000Lbs  :)  Granted, the Spare tire I took out might have...
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: TurboCoupe50 on August 14, 2009, 10:25:32 AM
2550 surely isn't correct, a 4cyl notch Stang weighs more than that...

Mine weighed 3760 with me(200), 3/4 tank and probably 40lbs of tools, spare and jack...
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: 88turbo on August 14, 2009, 12:02:52 PM
I weighed the cougar years back empty and it was about 4500. but thats a 79
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: RoyLPita on August 14, 2009, 12:28:53 PM
I weighed a 92 Grand Marquis with me in it and it was 4000lbs.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: ZondaC12 on August 14, 2009, 01:11:34 PM
At the town dump scale, 5 gallons of gas (so 40 lbs there), me, (135), nothing in trunk....3680.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: jrad235 on August 14, 2009, 08:14:43 PM
Hmm, I knew it was too good to be true! I guess I'll have to run it across a couple other scales to verify.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: Thunder Chicken on August 14, 2009, 09:08:37 PM
I must take the T-Bird to the local dump and weigh it some time. It should be a relative lightweight (base model, no power seats). I lightened it by swapping the T5 in but added weight by installing the 8.8 and subframe connectors (but overall weight distribution probably got better, as the weight bisas should have shifted rearward).
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: FLSTCI71 on August 14, 2009, 11:53:45 PM
I'd take my DD to the syard to weigh it, but my buddy told me they'd never let me take it home. They'd take one look at it, fork it up onto the s pile and it would be gone. lol.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: bhazard on August 15, 2009, 12:05:22 AM
I dont remember what my dads old 83 Tc weighed when he sped it, but it was stripped to the bone. No driveline, front end yanked (k-member and suspension), and it had a power nothing interior that I so wish I woulda kept...
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: jrad235 on August 15, 2009, 01:24:29 AM
Well, according to my "T-Bird, 45 Years of Thunder" Book, the curb weight of the 1983 Thunderbird was 3169Lbs, and the 1/4 Mile ET (V6) was 19 Sec at 72.9MPH....

As a side note, the Promo Pic of the 1983 Ford lineup shows a cougar with TRX rims on it.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: bhazard on August 15, 2009, 02:28:54 PM
Im sure a no option tc would be lighter than that since my 88 is 3200 with prc and abs and such things
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: Thunder Chicken on August 15, 2009, 08:03:45 PM
I believe PRC and ABS were mandatory on 87-88 TC's
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: Beau on August 15, 2009, 08:57:47 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;286823
I believe PRC and ABS were mandatory on 87-88 TC's


Correcto ;)

And would anyone hazard a guess roughly what a iron headed 5.0 Sport would weigh, after a fair bit of weight reduction?

ALL the sound deadener inside, rear seat, ALL A.C. stuff, spare, trunk carpet, removed all the stereo equipment.
Car has/will have T5/8.8/TC brakes and suspension/wheels...
Just looking for a baseline number...don't even have a goal, just seeing if anyone has done the same and wondering what their car weighed out at...

I suppose I could've weighed it as I pulled it out, but that would've been too fun lol
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: bhazard on August 15, 2009, 09:15:57 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;286823
I believe PRC and ABS were mandatory on 87-88 TC's


I know, Im just saying, its an addition compared to an 83.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: t3skidoo on August 15, 2009, 11:54:16 PM
3200 for an 87-88 TC is pretty light, IMO.  They usually come in a couple hundred pounds heavier.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on August 15, 2009, 11:56:01 PM
The 20th I parted out and sped (R.I.P....) weighed 3300 lbs with no motor, tranny, gastank, and a lot of other misc. parts that i took off
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: vinnietbird on August 16, 2009, 09:20:33 AM
I'll weigh the Sport this week sometime and post it for all to see.The a/c and smog delete took off a little weight,as did the 5 speed swap,but,I took the 7.5 out and installed an 8.8,and took off the factory 14 inch wheels and installed 17x9 and 17x10's,so,I added weight here and there as well.I'm interested to know.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: jrad235 on August 16, 2009, 08:37:23 PM
Ok, apparently I took the scales a little quickly last time, it ACTUALLY weighs 3250Lbs. Base 83 V6 Power seat, windows, mirrors, locks, no spare, no subs,  an automatic, 135# Driver, and tools.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: 83-88T-Bird Guy on August 18, 2009, 03:45:14 PM
Quote from: FordTruckFreeek;286829
Correcto ;)

And would anyone hazard a guess roughly what a iron headed 5.0 Sport would weigh, after a fair bit of weight reduction?

ALL the sound deadener inside, rear seat, ALL A.C. stuff, spare, trunk carpet, removed all the stereo equipment.
Car has/will have T5/8.8/TC brakes and suspension/wheels...
Just looking for a baseline number...don't even have a goal, just seeing if anyone has done the same and wondering what their car weighed out at...

I suppose I could've weighed it as I pulled it out, but that would've been too fun lol



After the gutting, I predict 3150-3200.

My 87 TC with the factory wheels and the 460 (720 lbs) and C-6 trans weighs 3400 exactly without driver and 1/4 tank of gas and has subframe connectors.
(it still has the full interior without sound deadener )
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: bhazard on August 18, 2009, 06:34:14 PM
I forgot that I pulled all the carpet insulation out a long time ago. Nasty stuff.

Wonder how much converting the drivers seat to non-power would drop. My guess is at least 30 lbs.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: jrad235 on August 18, 2009, 10:27:53 PM
Realistically, more like 10-20Lbs. There is no way the motors weigh 30 Lbs.

As an aside, I ALMOST took the Pass. Side power stuff from a Heritage I saw, but the control bezel was in worse shape than mine.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: 83-88T-Bird Guy on August 19, 2009, 07:23:53 AM
Quote from: jrad235;287140
Realistically, more like 10-20Lbs. There is no way the motors weigh 30 Lbs.

As an aside, I ALMOST took the Pass. Side power stuff from a Heritage I saw, but the control bezel was in worse shape than mine.


10-20 lbs does sound realistic.

On our 87 Turbo Coupe 460 I weighed alot of stuff out of curiousity when  I lightened the car and I think that electric seat setup was a 18 lbs difference.

I know that all of the unnecessary wiring I took out added up to 40 lbs ! That shocked me.

The door side beams were 10 lbs each. Not worth the trouble.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: Cad-T-Bird 500 on August 20, 2009, 09:45:07 PM
So how much does your 460 Coupe weigh?

Edit, sorry I found it, My 87 TC with the factory wheels and the 460 (720 lbs) and C-6 trans weighs 3400 exactly without driver and 1/4 tank of gas and has subframe connectors....
Not sure what you did to get it to 3400?

My Cadillac Powered TC weigh 3,500 with a full tank of gas and no one in it.  The trunk is empty, all the fancy wires have been removed for the suspension and brakes. Leather seats and power drivers seat.

I'm gong to have to put a roll bar in it soon and not really looking forward to the extra weight but maybe while I there I can take out more sound deadener and the back seat to make up for it.

TED
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: fordguy545 on August 24, 2009, 12:03:18 AM
this prompted me to reweigh my car.  I remembered it weighing 3800 last year.  But this year, it weighed 3580.  I changed the front seats, but reused the electric tracks, subframe connectors, boxed control arms, battleboxes, and the only thing I took out was that insulation/sound deadener(HEAVY ) behind the rear seat back.  Full a/c and everything along with a heavy holset turbo.
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: bhazard on August 24, 2009, 08:22:38 AM
So yours is still like 200lbs more than mine?
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: Thunder Chicken on August 24, 2009, 02:46:29 PM
Just weighed the T-Bird at the local dump. The weight was 1670 KG (I'm in Canada, so it's metric). That was with me in the car, 1/4 tank of gas, and my 12" sub in the trunk. The car was weighed in "as driven" condition (I stopped in at the dump on a whim, so I didn't do anything to lighten it before weighing it). That means the spare and jack were present (as was my mini compressor and jumper cables).

1670KG works out to 3674 pounds (2.2 pounds to the KG). Subtract my weight of 235 pounds and we're left with a 3439 pound Thunderbird (including sub, booster cables, and compressor). This is a base model 5.0 car, 100% stock under the hood (right down to the smog pump and cast manifolds). It has few options (Power windows, locks, mirrors, air, cruise, tilt). The AOD was swapped out for a T5, the 7.5 was swapped out for an 8.8 with discs, and it has subframe connectors and a class II trailer hitch. The exhaust is full duals with no cats. There are two amplifiers mounted to the back of the back seat as well.

All in all, at 3439 pounds, it's lighter than I would have thought, especially with some of the not-too-light things I've added (8.8" rear, SFC's, trailer hitch, sub & amps). I now wish I'd weighed it before the additions, just to see what it weighed bone stock...
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: fordguy545 on August 24, 2009, 09:53:26 PM
Quote from: bhazard;288031
So yours is still like 200lbs more than mine?


yeah, I guess, but yours is rust lightened:mullet:
but whose is faster:burnout:
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: gumby on August 24, 2009, 10:20:39 PM
87 TC

less:
more:
misc relocation:

car is 3199lbs w/half tank of fuel and no driver. 51F/49R, cross weights 50/50.

more to come, eventually. need to remove all the wiring from the parts i have deleted, and i want an aluminum head.....
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: FLSTCI71 on August 24, 2009, 11:14:44 PM
Quote from: gumby;288136
car is 3199lbs w/half tank of fuel and no driver. 51F/49R, cross weights 50/50.

more to come, eventually. need to remove all the wiring from the parts i have deleted, and i want an aluminum head.....

Are you going for 2999?
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: gumby on August 24, 2009, 11:24:55 PM
Quote from: FLSTCI71;288143
Are you going for 2999?


if i can do it without turning the car into a tin can, yes. id love to be under 3g's
Title: Weighed my TC
Post by: FLSTCI71 on August 24, 2009, 11:33:32 PM
Quote from: gumby;288148
if i can do it without turning the car into a tin can, yes. id love to be under 3g's

That's what I thought. You're getting close, good luck!!!