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Technical => Suspension/Steering => Topic started by: mcb82gt on July 31, 2009, 07:35:15 PM

Title: manual rack question
Post by: mcb82gt on July 31, 2009, 07:35:15 PM
Anybody put a manual rack in their coug/bird?

How was the low speed steering effort?
Title: manual rack question
Post by: mcb82gt on August 13, 2009, 07:52:10 PM
Nobody has done manual steering?  Guess that should tell me something right there. LOL
Title: manual rack question
Post by: Cougar5.0 on August 13, 2009, 08:16:07 PM
After reading about it, I decided that it would be too much work for me.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: vinnietbird on August 13, 2009, 08:25:11 PM
Why manual steering?The pump doesn't draw that much power at all,and the easy of steering far exceeds the loss of weight and horsepower lost.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: mcb82gt on August 14, 2009, 07:54:16 AM
Mostly because of my leaking rack, leaking messy lines, and noisey as hell pump.

Just kicking around the idea of getting rid of it once and for all, but wondering how it was driving around town.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: Watchdevil on August 14, 2009, 09:49:37 AM
I wouldn't do it! The cars are too heavy and you would certainly find it uncomfortable to manuver...
Title: manual rack question
Post by: vinnietbird on August 14, 2009, 12:42:53 PM
Quote from: mcb82gt;286618
Mostly because of my leaking rack, leaking messy lines, and noisey as hell pump.

Just kicking around the idea of getting rid of it once and for all, but wondering how it was driving around town.


Replace the pump and rack and hose seals.That's what I did,no issues or leaks since then.WELL worth the time and effort.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: mcb82gt on August 14, 2009, 08:06:31 PM
Quote from: Watchdevil;286626
I wouldn't do it! The cars are too heavy and you would certainly find it uncomfortable to manuver...


That was my concern, these are a little heavier than Stangs and my front tires are 235's.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: Haystack on August 15, 2009, 01:01:46 AM
I rather liked my car without power steering. It did take alittle bit more effort, but nothing like a mazda or ranger pick up is without it. I really enjoyed it actually.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: fordguy on August 19, 2009, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: Watchdevil;286626
I wouldn't do it! The cars are too heavy and you would certainly find it uncomfortable to manuver...


i'm a little late on this but............

i used a manual flaming river rack in my 85. easy to steer. it had 225-55-16's on the front and a 460 under the hood.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: mcb82gt on August 20, 2009, 07:59:36 AM
Quote from: fordguy;287228
i'm a little late on this but............

i used a manual flaming river rack in my 85. easy to steer. it had 225-55-16's on the front and a 460 under the hood.


Thanks fordguy, how big a fella are you? lol:D
Title: manual rack question
Post by: fordguy on August 20, 2009, 08:45:00 AM
Quote from: mcb82gt;287280
Thanks fordguy, how big a fella are you? lol:D


i'm an average 190# out of shape 37 yo guy :D

really, the steering is easy. at speeds under 5mph you need to give a little more effort but it's not bad. as long as your not using a 10" steering wheel you will be fine.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: mcb82gt on August 20, 2009, 11:03:58 AM
Quote from: fordguy;287289
i'm an average 190# out of shape 37 yo guy :D
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Sounds like me 225# out of shape 37 y/o LOL

I should be able to turn it also then.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: Haystack on August 21, 2009, 01:04:18 AM
I liked it when I was 16. 140lbs and 6'4. Its not like older cars are without power steering. I just blew the pump though. I didn't actually swap in a new rack.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: mcb82gt on August 24, 2009, 08:43:12 PM
Is it the standard Mustang rack, to use on a 88 cougar?
Title: manual rack question
Post by: fordguy on August 24, 2009, 10:24:38 PM
yup
Title: manual rack question
Post by: 4bangen on September 04, 2009, 11:27:26 AM
dont you have to use different tie rods than the mustang?
Title: manual rack question
Post by: mcb82gt on September 04, 2009, 12:02:32 PM
I dunno, anybody?
Title: manual rack question
Post by: Haystack on September 04, 2009, 02:57:06 PM
I pulled a rack right out of an 87 mustang gt and threw it right in my thunderbird. I couldn't tell any difference and reused the old parts connected to it. They looked like they were brand new and had a blue color to them. I didn't modify anything.
Title: manual rack question
Post by: quick50stng on September 04, 2009, 02:58:55 PM
Thunderbird rack length = Mustang rack length

Tie rod ends are different for an 88 like mine. The 86 and earlier might be same as a mustang