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Title: programmers
Post by: hellsing73 on June 10, 2009, 10:09:28 PM
dose any one know if they sell any programmers or stuff like that for are cars?
Title: programmers
Post by: Haystack on June 10, 2009, 11:13:10 PM
If you have done the H.O. upgrade, anything for a mustang should work. If not, I would bet they could modify a stock mustang ecu to run 14lbers?
Title: programmers
Post by: hellsing73 on June 10, 2009, 11:15:30 PM
i dont know what 14lbers are?
Title: programmers
Post by: thunderjet302 on June 11, 2009, 06:30:42 PM
These cars have EEC-IV so you can't use one of those hand held programmers they sell for 96 and up (OBD II) cars. To change the program on an EEC-IV computer you need to have a chip burned and then insert it into the J3 service port.
Title: programmers
Post by: dominator on June 11, 2009, 08:00:48 PM
Anderson pms or a tweecer are about your only choices.
Either of these are excellent programmers,but require quite a bit of knowledge to use.
Title: programmers
Post by: hellsing73 on June 11, 2009, 09:13:07 PM
ok what about the ones that u can moniter your motor. like the pods that would plug in to the obd2 port?
Title: programmers
Post by: Haystack on June 11, 2009, 11:04:52 PM
The guy with the kennebell powered 20th has alot of information for a stock ecu.
Title: programmers
Post by: Ductape91 on June 12, 2009, 01:04:44 AM
Quote from: thunderjet302;277140
These cars have EEC-IV so you can't use one of those hand held programmers they sell for 96 and up (OBD II) cars. To change the program on an EEC-IV computer you need to have a chip burned and then insert it into the J3 service port.


i keep hearing that but im certain i read in an old issue of hemmings muscle machines they tested some mods on a 91 or so tbird supercoupe that had a programmer plugged into the ECU socket and attached to a computer. not exactly a hand held but not having a chip burned either.
when i go down to my storage container over the weekend ill dig it out to be sure. unless someone here is more familiar with what im talking about and im not crazy.
Title: programmers
Post by: jangus on June 12, 2009, 08:47:53 AM
Moates Quarterhorse plugs into the ECU's J3 port and connects to a computer with a USB cable.  Capable of on the fly tuning with a laptop. http://www.moates.net
Probably the closest you'll get to the hand held units that are so popular these days that'll work with the EEC-IV.
Title: programmers
Post by: thunderjet302 on June 12, 2009, 11:51:13 AM
Quote from: Ductape91;277211
i keep hearing that but im certain i read in an old issue of hemmings muscle machines they tested some mods on a 91 or so tbird supercoupe that had a programmer plugged into the ECU socket and attached to a computer. not exactly a hand held but not having a chip burned either.
when i go down to my storage container over the weekend ill dig it out to be sure. unless someone here is more familiar with what im talking about and im not crazy.


Quote from: jangus;277243
Moates Quarterhorse plugs into the ECU's J3 port and connects to a computer with a USB cable.  Capable of on the fly tuning with a laptop. http://www.moates.net
Probably the closest you'll get to the hand held units that are so popular these days that'll work with the EEC-IV.


True but when you unplug those tuners from the computer doesn't it revert back to the stock program? I could be wrong.
Title: programmers
Post by: jangus on June 12, 2009, 02:47:28 PM
The Quarterhorse stays with the ECU it's installed on, or yes, it reverts back to stock coding.  You can also purchase the J3 chips, a burner, and software to reprogram the ECU.  That way, the chip stays with the computer, and you can use the burner and software to burn additional chips.  The neat thing about the Moates is the ability to have two different tunes on one chip, and being able to select which one you want to use with a switch you can mount where you want.  The Quarterhorse allows you to tune on the fly, car running, without getting "bumped off" by the ECU. With the regular J3 chip you have to reburn the chip when you want to make adjustments, which means shutting the car down first. You can reburn the same chip alot.  In fact, I can't recall ever hearing of any one that "wore out" a J3 chip.