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Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: CoogarXR on May 13, 2009, 11:52:05 PM
http://columbus.craigslist.org/pts/1166165860.html

Seems like a decent deal

CoogarXR
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 19, 2009, 11:55:11 PM
everyone stay away this ones mine:evilgrin: no really im talking to them about coming up next weekend so guys please dont buy i have been trying to buy one for a year and a half and finally convinced my mother to let me get one and i want to get one before she changes her mind.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 86XR7project on May 20, 2009, 08:27:28 AM
Uh, if you're planning on tearing a TC up for a Mustang build you aren't going to be liked here just to let you know. :mad:
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: jangus on May 20, 2009, 10:16:18 AM
You come over and post on a Tbird/Cougar website trying to find one to cut up for you Mustang project?  If you looked hard enough and did some local networking, you could probably come up with a motor/trans to perform your swap with out having to trash a good running automobile.
    If you really want to do this swap, get a truck, and come up here and I'll sell you a motor/5speed set up for $650 just to keep you from tearing up a good car.
    It's your money, do with it what you will.  I'm tired of seeing good cars tore up for no good reason.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 20, 2009, 04:27:31 PM
what is the URL of this site? FOX-TBIRD-COUGAR-forums.com so this isnt only your site its ours too.

im not just going to part it out im going to put it back on the road.

if you had my car you would understand if there is no way to make a car faster except to do a motor swap or buy a new car and your mother wont let you sell your car to buy another or put a 5.0 in yours what would you do deal with 100hp besides the car will be going to a girl who would give a  about cars and just drive the car into the ground tell me should the whole car end up in a junk yard or just the shell with a n/a 2.3.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Ifixyawata on May 20, 2009, 05:53:34 PM
Ease up everyone...  First thing I must point out is that the 'fox' in our name refers to the fact that our cars are a part of the 'fox family' too.  Not saying owners of other makes & models aren't welcome.  Just making a correction because I'm a nit-picker like that.

Did anyone read the ad?  It says 'rough around the edges'... ok?  That could mean that the whole bottom edge of the quarters and doors are rusted out.  Still so intent on saving a 'rare gem'?  And what is there to hack or cut?  It's a matter of bolts & wires, people.  How does anyone know it's a good car with those TWO 640x480 pics!?!

Take it easy on the kid... most of us despise the 2.3 anyway because of how finicky they can be.  You guys were nicer to the guy with a Chevy engine in  his T-bird!
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Live Fast on May 20, 2009, 05:57:37 PM
find and SVO and tear it apart! they are ugly anyway! lol
I got a good 4cyl/5speed with new clutch and pressure plate. has 67k original miles on it and its in a mustang, take the motor mounts and cross member too. $400 you can take it all. Just need it out of the car so i can s the body. (its totaled) Hate to see a  good running motor go to waste though.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Live Fast on May 20, 2009, 06:01:58 PM
Quote from: Ifixyawata;273343
Ease up everyone...  First thing I must point out is that the 'fox' in our name refers to the fact that our cars are a part of the 'fox family' too.  Not saying owners of other makes & models aren't welcome.  Just making a correction because I'm a nit-picker like that.

Did anyone read the ad?  It says 'rough around the edges'... ok?  That could mean that the whole bottom edge of the quarters and doors are rusted out.  Still so intent on saving a 'rare gem'?  And what is there to hack or cut?  It's a matter of bolts & wires, people.  How does anyone know it's a good car with those TWO 640x480 pics!?!

Take it easy on the kid... most of us despise the 2.3 anyway because of how finicky they can be.  You guys were nicer to the guy with a Chevy engine in  his T-bird!


I think in the ad when he says "rough around the edges" means it needs a little work, not so much as rust. Just his way of saying it needs a little work. But who knows until you look at it! They always look good in the pictures!
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 20, 2009, 07:28:13 PM
well i want a 5spd and the rear end because these are the only cars with 4 lug disc brakes also im tight on cash so i need to find something cheap i dont have the money to get an ECM flashed.

also your telling me to go out and do the same thing to a SVO are you crazy there are less of them than TC only 10,000 ever made and i almost garantee that 5000 are crushed or rusted through but i want to get a Turbo motor after 86 since they are more reliable.

trust me if there was any other way to do it this cheap without me running all over the country looking for parts i would but this is the cheapest and easiest way to do it i would rather not destroy the heratige of a car and this way insurance doesnt go up if i used the TC as a daily driver it would go up 25-30 bucks i dont have the money for.

also like i stated in my last post a girl who know nothing about cars is going to get it after the swap at least im going to take care of the motor most people gut them just to turn them into drag cars thats not what im doing.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Live Fast on May 20, 2009, 10:55:48 PM
ill take the body when you get done then.
I got an idea! LTD=big block 400 / TC roller would make a nice match! lol
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 88turbo on May 20, 2009, 11:32:22 PM
come get my spare 2.3t if your wanting one that bad.  dont tear apart a complete car....  also TC rears can still be found.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 86XR7project on May 21, 2009, 08:50:06 AM
Quote from: 93stangfutr2.3t;273366
well i want a 5spd and the rear end because these are the only cars with 4 lug disc brakes also im tight on cash so i need to find something cheap i dont have the money to get an ECM flashed.


If you take up his offer for the SVO you won't need a reflashed ECU now will you? I'm sure they are the same wire harness and hookup since others have done an SVO swap before. ;) SVOs have Discs front and rear and 5 lug ;). Not to mention the TC rear is wider than your Mustang's is ;)

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also your telling me to go out and do the same thing to a SVO are you crazy there are less of them than TC only 10,000 ever made and i almost garantee that 5000 are crushed or rusted through but i want to get a Turbo motor after 86 since they are more reliable.


Take a look at the title of the forum and you'll see why a few of us are upset about you Mustang guys tearing up OUR favorite cars. We don't mind if you tear up an SVO we don't care if you tore up a Cobra. Don't destroy a saveable TC to put a Turbo motor in your Mustang.

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trust me if there was any other way to do it this cheap without me running all over the country looking for parts i would but this is the cheapest and easiest way to do it i would rather not destroy the heratige of a car and this way insurance doesnt go up if i used the TC as a daily driver it would go up 25-30 bucks i dont have the money for.


So what is the real problem with 100hp? Its a gas saver car man, you aren't going street racing or bracket racing in a four cyl turbo no matter if you have a turbo or not. Buy a V8 and be done with it, if your mom says no listen to her! Save up your money for a project car or something along that lines, you don't want to be tearing down your DD and get stuck or be without your car do you?

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also like i stated in my last post a girl who know nothing about cars is going to get it after the swap at least im going to take care of the motor most people gut them just to turn them into drag cars thats not what im doing.


Let me just throw a few points in here:
1. turbo cars need special attention (Cool down idleing before shut off, warm up before throwing loads of boost its way.)
2. If she knows nothing about cars how is she going to care for it?
3. You're destroying a TC for a car you aren't going to even drive?
4. If she really knows nothing about cars and I would assume doesn't care, why not just leave it stock?
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: lakenheath24 on May 21, 2009, 12:05:18 PM
Why would you come on an obviously pro T-bird site with the intentions of ruining what is in itself a rare car(getting rarer thanks to people like you) and then expect help?!  That would be like us going to a Porshe site and asking around for a motor from some rare model to put in a dunebuggy. That may not be the best example but you get the point.  If you MUST defile a TC, at least do the rest of us that actually like these cars a favor and follow the links quietly, without posting your intentions.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Ifixyawata on May 21, 2009, 01:22:38 PM
Alright you guys win.  BAN HAMMER! BAN HAMMER! BAN HAMMER!

I guess this makes me a car-rapist and defiler too because the rear end out of my car came from an '88 XR-7 they made more of my base t-bird than they did of those XR-7's so I destroyed a rare car to upgrade my plain-jane t-bird.  Now on to the brakes... my front brakes are off of a *GASP* Turbo Coupe!  Another rare car sent to the crusher!
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: jpc647 on May 21, 2009, 02:31:04 PM
Quote from: 86XR7project;273257
Uh, if you're planning on tearing a TC up for a Mustang build you aren't going to be liked here just to let you know. :mad:


He doesn't care. He obviously just came on here to get the connections to get the motor.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 21, 2009, 04:16:12 PM
guys your not understanding my problem.

xr7 project you just want me to listen to my mother so you can get your way shut it......

I GOT HER TO AGREE TO THIS ALSO YOU DONT KNOW HOW THE CAR IS.

also dont want 5lug......

tc rear ends are 1/8IN longer on each side here is 1 in full scale

________ yes i measured it.

yes i know turbo cars need special attention my brother owns one i plan on getting a turbo timer and boost gauge. its not like im going to be racing from my driveway to the end of the road.

thats my point she isnt going to take care of it it will be in a junk yard in a month. then the car is destroyed anyways. im trying to save some of its heratige.

i am going to drive it its my daily driver now. and dont say its going to blow in a week either why would they put them in a TC just to do a 1/4 mile and have to rebuild them like the TOP FUELS?

why not leave it stock because like i said a girl will be driving the TC.

i understang you guys are big fans of the TC you would die to save one but at least im not buying it to part it out like a junk yard would or other people would you guys were 17 at one time too would you drive a 2.3 now for your only car you could have for the next 2years or would you upgrade it the only thing i can do to my car is CAM and a HEADER witch will give me Hp20 i have the least amount of power in school im so tired of my brother saying ill never beat him and people kicking my car at school because the way it looks and how fast it is they dont belive it will hit 100MPH when i have personally gone faster than that on a hiway in the middle of the night i know how hard it is to understand but atleast try please.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: jangus on May 21, 2009, 04:19:02 PM
Quoted from XR7project:
"you aren't going street racing or bracket racing in a four cyl turbo no matter if you have a turbo or not."
I respectfully disagree. There are alot of street/bracket racing 2.3T cars around.  My sons will be soon,  and my TC's on its way also.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 21, 2009, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: lakenheath24;273486
Why would you come on an obviously pro T-bird site with the intentions of ruining what is in itself a rare car(getting rarer thanks to people like you) and then expect help?!  That would be like us going to a Porshe site and asking around for a motor from some rare model to put in a dunebuggy. That may not be the best example but you get the point.  If you MUST defile a TC, at least do the rest of us that actually like these cars a favor and follow the links quietly, without posting your intentions.



this isnt the same thing if you want to pay for me to redo my head flash my ecu and pay for the forged pistons and rods for my engine ill happily rebuild mine and save your poor precious dieing little TC. porche to a dunebuggy is a bit drastic i would do this if it was for the Baja 1000. LOL:D
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 21, 2009, 04:25:55 PM
Quote from: jangus;273506
Quoted from XR7project:
"you aren't going street racing or bracket racing in a four cyl turbo no matter if you have a turbo or not."
I respectfully disagree. There are alot of street/bracket racing 2.3T cars around.  My sons will be soon,  and my TC's on its way also.


thanx i had actually planned on getting into AutoX once this was done

i dont know if anyone saw this on this site but on ebay a few weeks ago i saw a 88TC with 500HP WOW tell me that thing wasnt for racing.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 21, 2009, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: jpc647;273496
He doesn't care. He obviously just came on here to get the connections to get the motor.


no i just came on this site because someone recommended me to come here also i saw the page on craigslist before he even posted it ive been talking to then for a week and a half. i hadnt been on this site for a month.


god this is alot of typing i could have writen a research paper for english by now.

sorry for all the DOUBLE TRIPLE POSTING alot to type.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: jangus on May 21, 2009, 04:59:52 PM
Buying a wreck/rusted to death/unsalvagable TC and parting it out is one thing.  Taking a running, driving, TC that could be used/respected by someone and parting it out isn't something I look highly upon.  It is too easy to find 2.3T motors already out of the car.
If you plan on using the TC as a TC, and not tearing it apart for a stangbird mutt, then great. More power to you.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 86XR7project on May 21, 2009, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: jangus;273506
Quoted from XR7project:
"you aren't going street racing or bracket racing in a four cyl turbo no matter if you have a turbo or not."
I respectfully disagree. There are alot of street/bracket racing 2.3T cars around.  My sons will be soon,  and my TC's on its way also.


Remember this kid is on a limited budget. He's looking for a stock TC engine not an engine like is in Huber's 10-ish second turbo 4 Mustang.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 86XR7project on May 21, 2009, 05:18:50 PM
Quote from: 93stangfutr2.3t;273505
thats my point she isnt going to take care of it it will be in a junk yard in a month. then the car is destroyed anyways. im trying to save some of its heratige.


You're telling me, they would buy her a car that would last a month? Thats just stupid.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 21, 2009, 05:20:16 PM
you want to know my budget $805 to the point if you can find a tranny wiring harness rearend and complete motor for that much let me know ill happily do it.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 21, 2009, 05:32:17 PM
Quote from: 86XR7project;273537
You're telling me, they would buy her a car that would last a month? Thats just stupid.


im saying she is going to destroy it in a month.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Live Fast on May 21, 2009, 05:41:05 PM
How old is this kid? Dont sound to mature to me.....

On another note, I have seen the Huber Mustang before and that thing is bad ass!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnW4W6ot5kY
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Ifixyawata on May 21, 2009, 05:50:17 PM
Quote from: Live Fast;273547
How old is this kid? Dont sound to mature to me.....

I'm starting to get that feeling too.... I may eat all my  words.  I just hate to see a new person get flame-fested.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 86XR7project on May 21, 2009, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: 93stangfutr2.3t;273545
im saying she is going to destroy it in a month.


And they're buying her a car why?

 I can find you a motor and computer without you ruining a perfectly good car. I don't really want mine. I don't care if people get a little angry that I am not planning to stick with the motor because its my car and I am preserving the car itself anyway. Fact is, with that sort of budget a craigslist ad would get you an engine and computer EASILY.

Honestly, I'd wait and do the V8 swap to be perfectly honest.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: jangus on May 21, 2009, 05:57:24 PM
"you want to know my budget $805 to the point if you can find a tranny wiring harness rearend and complete motor for that much let me know ill happily do it."
Get a truck, drive up here, and I'll set you up for $805.
I've got an 88 out back that was T-boned in the drivers side, complete motor, and a compete 5speed setup in the garage, and another in an additional parts car.
I missed out on a clean 88 5speed TC driver on Tuesday by about 8 hours.  Could've had it for $500 or less.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 21, 2009, 07:11:10 PM
sorry 400 miles is my limit i cant drive farther im trying to make it a one day trip.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 21, 2009, 07:15:44 PM
you guys dont like me fine join the club im doing this so i can show the A## holes at school who call my car shi# and say its slow that a 4cyl can be fast you guys want to hate me fine im never going to meet any of you anyways.

as you have probably noticed ive taken out all my messages im done with this argument have fun discussing it umungst yourselves.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Ifixyawata on May 21, 2009, 07:21:14 PM
Yay!  We did it!  :rolleyes:

/Sarcasm
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 21, 2009, 07:22:32 PM
who says im still not doing it?
just not continuing the discusion since it isnt getting anywere


just noticed something this is from the ADD

 have a 1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe that I will sell as an entire car for $800.00 or best offer; or

(((((((((((((((((( I WILL PART THIS CAR OUT.)))))))))))))))))))))

Has a good 2.3 turbo with a 5 speed transmission. The interior is good , so are the hood and the trunk deck. It is a little rough around the edges; however, it would make a good project car.

even if i dont buy it who says it will save the car.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: cougarman on May 21, 2009, 07:41:18 PM
Part the TC, and put the 2.3T in your Mustang. It'll be a fun little car, just upgrade the fuel pump also. Seen and rode in 2.3T Mustangs before, wicked fast!!!  Have Fun!:burnout::burnout::burnout:
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Ifixyawata on May 21, 2009, 07:48:06 PM
I'd say don't worry too much about other assholes from school... they won't mean shiznit once you graduate.  Build your car the way you want to.  I know your struggle though... I drive a Neon every day....
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 21, 2009, 08:02:07 PM
you drive a skittle LOL this is the way i want it it saves gas and it will be nice to beat all the v8 a##holes.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: lakenheath24 on May 21, 2009, 08:30:41 PM
here's the point 93 stang....these cars, unlike bellybutton, dime-a-dozen mustang's, are getting rarer by the day and mustang/merkur and other's are raping perfectly good cars to steal the motor's.  Sort of like the puppiesanese cutting of shark fins and throwing them back in the sea. Those boys think it's OK but we don't.  It is disrespect to the marque. People here are perfectly willing to save you some mad cash by selling you the motor you need in order to preserve a potentially good, rebuildable t-bird, not to mention the wealth of knowledge here building a 2.3t motor.  Now it is up to you...be childish and carry on, g off people , or listen to some old farts with some pretty  good advise.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Ifixyawata on May 21, 2009, 08:36:18 PM
93stang, I'd find out first what condition the car is in before you decide to buy it.  If you can get engine/tranny/ecm/wiring/rear from someone on here cheaper then I would do that because it will probably be cheaper that way.  It'll educate you a bit in this wierd world of fox cars when you're all done with it.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Haystack on May 21, 2009, 08:57:23 PM
Just buy it. When ever there are nice parts for these cars, no one buys them. This is the land of $500 clunkers overall. Some people its different. Others bought there cars brand new and fell in love with them. I personally drive these cars because there cheap. If the price jumped up to $1000 for the car I drive now, this would be the last one I would drive.

These cars are not rare. They made turbo coupes. Everyone already rapes them on the rear end, the springs and spidles as well as interior. And every single peice can be bought from another car.

If you have all the money to buy what ever parts for your car you want, then do it. A 2.3 turbo would be cool in a mustang, but unless your going to spend real money on parts, you may be better off with a 5.0.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: jcassity on May 22, 2009, 03:42:09 AM
Quote from: Ifixyawata;273587
93stang, I'd find out first what condition the car is in before you decide to buy it.  If you can get engine/tranny/ecm/wiring/rear from someone on here cheaper then I would do that because it will probably be cheaper that way.  It'll educate you a bit in this wierd world of fox cars when you're all done with it.


you've come full circle.  :flip:

seems like someone (you) should have sat back for a moment and asked himself
"why is it i am the only one on this side of the fence"

a kind and gentle person you were,, then you flip flopped.  Your not alone,, dont feel bad because it happened to about 55% of you recently.

He's gonna do what he's gonna do.  It is what it is.  I think i am better off not knowing this happens to a nice bird because I agree with the majority here.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 86XR7project on May 22, 2009, 09:11:21 AM
If he's going to part it out and junk it, you might as well. I just so happen to be one of those people who hates seeing Mustang guys destroy our cars for their benefit. One day I'll buy a rare Mustang and tear it up so they understand...
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: Ifixyawata on May 22, 2009, 09:43:32 AM
Scott, it's just that there's two things I dislike:  People jumping all over someone, basically telling them they're not welcome here.  And people assuming from tiny pictures that that TC is worth saving... no one knows what condition the body is in on that thing.  Oh well... I'm done with this thread anyway.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 23, 2009, 05:36:55 PM
i will happily let you guys know that im not buying this one which the only problem is that the front fenders are rusted easily replaced.

im buying one closer to my house that is a junker and would take a good $5000-8000 to fix.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 86XR7project on May 23, 2009, 05:53:03 PM
Well to be honest I'm sure you can find all the parts you need/want for cheaper than buying a car. Just a wayward thought.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 23, 2009, 07:04:17 PM
$400? full car beat that and i get resale of the chasis
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: jangus on May 23, 2009, 08:11:20 PM
I'm glad you found a suitable donor.  If it truly is beyond saving, that's the one I'd use.  Be sure to offer what's left up for sale.  Parts are usually pretty popular.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 23, 2009, 09:35:46 PM
ill probably offer as a roller easier to get rid of.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 86XR7project on May 23, 2009, 09:43:28 PM
Or since you'll have a spare car lying around can you say V8? :D
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 93stangfutr2.3t on May 23, 2009, 10:53:37 PM
dont i wish ill just probably sell it so someone can make a drag car or put a v8 in it that way ill get some of the money back that i put in it.
Title: 1987 TC / 5-Speed 800 obo
Post by: 86XR7project on May 24, 2009, 07:50:41 AM
I suppose if its an ugly mess pulling the motor isn't a big deal just hang in there man, if you want it bad enough you'll have your V8 at some point.