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Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: stvrrr on March 29, 2009, 08:01:35 PM
My parents bought an 20th Anniversary Cougar new. It has never been winter driven. It only has about 80000kms/50000miles +-on it. It has all options available. They never did get the trunk kit for it for some reason.Still smells new inside. Always covered. All original except battery and tires. The gatorbacks got flat spots from sitting so much.NO scratches or dings anywhere.The only flaw that I could see was the paint was peeling abit on the rear window trim. Anyways my parents are getting up in years and are thinking of getting rid of the car. I would love it for myself, but I already have my 85 HO T-bird and my 64 Fairlane so another car is out of the question. What do you think a car like this is worth today?
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on March 29, 2009, 08:07:59 PM
Never saw one without the trunk kit??? It's really hard to tell how much they are worth....I guess it depends on who really wants it bad enough. I have seen 20th's go for 2500 in great condition with less than 100k miles, and Seen them go for the higher 100's low 1000's, but all in all, it's hard to judge.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: jcassity on March 29, 2009, 08:08:10 PM
2000,
thats about what you would be lucky to get.

so your saying it has a moon roof?

f not, get to know the 20th a little better.  Post up a pic of that cat if you can.  It would be nice to see here and maybe even sell if your going that route.

One just about in the shape you described just sold up in va for 900 i think.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on March 29, 2009, 08:09:26 PM
Quote from: jcassity;264685
2000,
thats about what you would be lucky to get.


The guy i was telling you about in ohio dropped his from 3500 to 2500, said he had it appraised for 5000, I think it's bs.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: jcassity on March 29, 2009, 08:14:07 PM
yeah,, thats an odd one,
for some reason i thought that car had issues other than the tranny.  I would have never asked him for the parts i got from you if it wasnt on its way out to the jy anyway.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on March 29, 2009, 08:17:07 PM
He said he done a lot of work to it in the past year, suspension, tranny, some motor work, ect. Have you ever heard of a 20th without the rear luggage rack?
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: jcassity on March 29, 2009, 08:33:43 PM
anything/option is possible.  depends on the buyer. 

this guys car sounds sweet though just by how he describes it and all.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on March 29, 2009, 08:39:29 PM
It does sound awesome.....never had a car that still smelled new.....
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 29, 2009, 10:23:31 PM
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Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: 86XR7project on March 30, 2009, 08:52:19 AM
Quote from: ZondaC12;264724
PIIIIIIIIICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS PICS!!!!:beatyoass: :D


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Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: shorangerbird on March 30, 2009, 09:25:51 AM
:ttiwwp:

i'm on a roll.....:hick:
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 30, 2009, 09:42:24 AM
Quote from: 86XR7project;264762
X1

No no noooooooo!! IM the "x1" you gotta be "x2"!!!!! :hick:
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: 86XR7project on March 30, 2009, 09:48:33 AM
Ooops, I fixed it.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: stvrrr on March 30, 2009, 04:10:44 PM
What I meant by the trunk kit was the little tool kit that was supposed to come later from Ford/Mercury.Has the proper floor mats. As far as the post being worthless without pics, well just look at a brochure of a brand new 20th and that's what it looks like. Yes it has the sunroof.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: EricCoolCats on March 30, 2009, 04:22:02 PM
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As far as the post being worthless without pics, well just look at a brochure of a brand new 20th and that's what it looks like.
The 20th in the brochure was a painting. ;)

All options...are you sure? Because there's been some misinformation about 20th options for years.
Full list of options and some of their order codes here:
http://www.coolcats.net/fox/20thanniversaryoptions.html

Not trying to discredit you, just making sure that the car does indeed have every option.
While full- or close to full-optioned cars were pretty common, just the price of entry for a 20th was a lot of money in 1987, so there are a lot that were just "basic" optioned (no moonroof, no power antenna, no ATC, etc.).

Your folks should have received the tool kit in the mail separately from the floor mats and the book.
If they didn't, tool kits pop up on eBay about once a year on average. Prepare to pay a lot of money for it, though.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: stvrrr on March 30, 2009, 08:54:29 PM
Yes ALL options. I think it might even have the block heater and it does have the license plate frame since it is a Canadian car.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: jcassity on March 30, 2009, 09:02:39 PM
Quote from: stvrrr;264879
What I meant by the trunk kit was the little tool kit that was supposed to come later from Ford/Mercury.Has the proper floor mats. As far as the post being worthless without pics, well just look at a brochure of a brand new 20th and that's what it looks like. Yes it has the sunroof.


wow,,
who here has a 20th with the sunroof?

wonder how many of those options were ordered.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: FLSTCI71 on March 30, 2009, 11:41:57 PM
Quote from: stvrrr;264879
As far as the post being worthless without pics, well just look at a brochure of a brand new 20th and that's what it looks like.

As far as what the car would be worth today, well just look at the window sticker and it will tell you. jk. If you are serious about selling, you're going to need to post some pics, hopefully, big ones and close ups. That is the first thing any potential buyer is going to want to see.

Another thing you could do is list it on evilbay with a big reserve and see how high it goes. That's not always real accurate, but it'll give you a rough idea. It sounds like a beautiful car and I am sure would bring a premium. The amount of that premium is anybody's guess.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 31, 2009, 12:08:45 AM
Quote from: jcassity;264949
wow,,
who here has a 20th with the sunroof?
 
wonder how many of those options were ordered.

 
Mine's got the sunroof. Actually everything but the block heater. Almost fully loaded. Dangit!!! :hick:
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: jcassity on March 31, 2009, 01:43:14 AM
wish i had a moon roof
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: shorangerbird on March 31, 2009, 09:03:17 AM
Quote from: FLSTCI71;264983
If you are serious about selling, you're going to need to post some pics, hopefully, big ones and close ups. That is the first thing any potential buyer is going to want to see.


yes, not that you are not truthful in what you say, but for a buyer, as they say, the proof is in the pudding......:)
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 31, 2009, 09:24:08 AM
Quote from: jcassity;265001
wish i had a moon roof

Before I put my stupid-loud dual exhaust on, I kinda wished I didnt. The seal isnt right (doesnt look degraded just lterally not made to actually seal to the body) so on the highway theres a lot of wind noise....and in touchless carwashes the high pressure water comes right in around it. Sooooo I stopped going to those. :rollin:
 
And of course last summer it stopped working. Kinda not a big loss...Im funny like that I almost NEVER used it. Yeah. Figure that out. Not even jokin. Just wouldnt cross my mind. But Im just as happy to be able to see through the roof, so whatever I'll fix it when Im BOOOOREEDDD :hick:
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: mcb82gt on March 31, 2009, 06:49:26 PM
My guess in value would be somewhere between 4-6K.

Could vary alot, just a guess of what you may get with the right buyer.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: Cougar5.0 on March 31, 2009, 07:29:55 PM
I was told that I was lucky not to have the moon roof. Based on the one 20th I found at the junkyard with one, I tend to believe that. I don't miss the block heater either since the car sits in the garage all winter anyway. BTW, I have a gold plated grill - is it true that most had a chrome grill?

I'd like to see pictures of this car - then we can give some idea of value.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: stvrrr on March 31, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
Parents are away on vacation and the car is parked away for the winter, but I will get pictures as soon as possible.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: stvrrr on March 31, 2009, 08:21:35 PM
Another related question. Does anyone know what the actual production numbers were for these cars? I know there was supposed to be 5000 for US and 350 for Canada but I was talking to someone back around 1990 that said Ford/Mercury didn't end up making that many because they ran out of the material for the seats. Anyone heard of this?
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: 20thanniver-ls on March 31, 2009, 10:29:36 PM
Quote from: Cougar5.0;265136
I was told that I was lucky not to have the moon roof. Based on the one 20th I found at the junkyard with one, I tend to believe that. I don't miss the block heater either since the car sits in the garage all winter anyway. BTW, I have a gold plated grill - is it true that most had a chrome grill?

I'd like to see pictures of this car - then we can give some idea of value.


The 20th I had in high school also had the gold plated grill
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: ZondaC12 on March 31, 2009, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: Cougar5.0;265136
I was told that I was lucky not to have the moon roof. Based on the one 20th I found at the junkyard with one, I tend to believe that. I don't miss the block heater either since the car sits in the garage all winter anyway. BTW, I have a gold plated grill - is it true that most had a chrome grill?
 
I'd like to see pictures of this car - then we can give some idea of value.

Yes mine's not gold-plated. Eric had a comment about that...something to the effect of dealers doing it...maybe the NY auto show ones having it...but none bound for sale from the factory had it.....just that plenty of people requested the dealership make the grille match too/some dealers deciding it should be done etc. Kinda neat IMO!
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: EricCoolCats on March 31, 2009, 11:51:56 PM
I've never found any literature or Ford official specs that listed a gold-plated grille surround or grille emblem. The grille fins are supposed to be body color. The other items...I have no evidence on them. The center emblem seems to be logical in gold so I tend to believe they all had this feature. The surround I believe was supposed to be the standard chrome finish, except for the NYAS cars. I do know that dealers were gold-plating them like crazy back in the day.

However, I can't disprove anything either so anything is possible. ;)
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: Cougar5.0 on April 01, 2009, 12:26:23 AM
Mine originally came with a chrome grill. I got hold of a parts car with a gold version, so I used that one. I have since bought a couple more of the gold plated ones. All of the gold ones have the center and surround gold plated. None of the 4 grills had the body color fins.

One of the gold ones has a sticker on it - "Celebrity Custom Grills" it says.
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: 86XR7project on April 01, 2009, 08:42:30 AM
We gonna see this car soon?
Title: Question about 20th anniversary Cougar
Post by: stvrrr on April 01, 2009, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: 86XR7project;265239
We gonna see this car soon?


See post #25