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Technical => Drivetrain Tech => Topic started by: Superdavesds on March 12, 2009, 11:20:39 PM

Title: Shifting problems
Post by: Superdavesds on March 12, 2009, 11:20:39 PM
I drove the cougar today and it is still shiifting oddly, It wants to shift really late, around 3500-4000 depending on what gear.. It is the three speed auto, 2.3 turbo, "86" btw. At first I thought it had to be the kickdown cable because this problem arose after I had the head off. Figured I just tweeked it with the removal of the intake or something. Shifted great before. Today I pulled the kick down completely off. It seems to make no difference. Now I did notice there was a little coil spring hanging off of the shift linkage down on the transmision. I cant see where it was supposed to be because it is all rusty and the spring is missing the other end completely. I figure that has to have something to do with it. I have checked for vacume leaks to the diaphram btw. Any ideas? Thanks for the help.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: Superdavesds on March 18, 2009, 04:45:32 PM
Wow, No one has any ideas?
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: atariman on March 18, 2009, 08:51:29 PM
Why not replace the cable or spring and readjust the cable and see what happens? If it was fine before you took it off and now it is not, I would say that is the problem.

I think people have ideas but are too scared to be wrong or something. I don't care if I am wrong, I won't suggest anything that would damage anything anyways. That my opinion for what its worth to ya!:D
Brian
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: atariman on March 18, 2009, 08:55:21 PM
Well, it sound like you just need to buy a new cable or that spring setup and just re-adjust the tv cable. If it wasn't doing crazy things before you messed with it, thats probly it.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: softtouch on March 18, 2009, 11:52:52 PM
Does the 86 have a C3 tranny?
The spring is probably needed to return it to the normal (not kick down ) position.
You probable also have a vacuum line running down to a diaphragm on the tranny.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: 86XR7project on March 19, 2009, 09:02:06 AM
A4ld
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: softtouch on March 20, 2009, 04:13:04 PM
Quote from: 86XR7project;262526
A4ld

The 87 EVTM shows the EEC controlled A4ld converter clutch and kickdown solenoids.
The 86 EVTM does not show this.
Just curious about when they switched from C3 to A4ld.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: 86XR7project on March 20, 2009, 06:11:55 PM
Looks like I was mistaken. I apologize, appears to be C3.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: Superdavesds on March 21, 2009, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: 86XR7project;262887
Looks like I was mistaken. I apologize, appears to be C3.


Yep C3, three speed auto. Does anyone have a pic of how the linkage and spring on the bottom is supposed to look?
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: 86XR7project on March 21, 2009, 02:37:38 PM
I'll see if I can get a photo at some point.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: softtouch on March 21, 2009, 04:28:36 PM
From the 84 shop manual, sorry no pic:
"Kickdown Linkage Check:
Check for wide open carburetor and linkage travel at full throttle. The carburetor full throttle stop must be contacted by the throttle linkage and there must be a slight amount of movement left in the downshift linkage.
[COLOR="Red"]Be sure the downshift linkage return spring is connected and the downshift lever returns to a closed position"[/COLOR]

You will have to transpose the carburetor stuff to the EFI throttle stop.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: Superdavesds on March 25, 2009, 05:13:09 PM
Sweet. Got it on jack stands now. i can see where it is supposed to be and the kickdown cable is sticking. A pic would still be cool if somebody has one.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: 86XR7project on March 25, 2009, 05:26:32 PM
Yeah, you'll have to give me a while my digital cam konked out and we had to order a new one..... Sorry, hope you're not it a huge rush.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: Superdavesds on March 25, 2009, 07:48:51 PM
Na, no rush. going out of town for the weekend anyways. wont work on her again till next week. Just want it in good shape fo CJ
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: 86XR7project on March 25, 2009, 08:52:16 PM
yeah give me a week then remind me if i forget.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: 86XR7project on March 26, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
Now I hope I got what you wanted, If I need to get another picture just let me know.

(http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3203/881/33005440006_large.jpg)

(http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3203/881/33005440007_large.jpg)

Hope this helps.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: Superdavesds on June 26, 2009, 02:42:15 AM
hehe, Three months later, thanks. I have been doing mad man electrical work to the car and have not been to the site for a while. I found that I had a hole in the modulator valve that was causing it to shift late and that spring is not on my car. I will have to lookaround and get one. I hate when the passing gear dont work
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: CatCarMan2012 on June 26, 2009, 11:50:28 AM
86xr7 I think you might have an oil leak of some kind. :rolleyes:
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: 88turbo on June 26, 2009, 12:05:30 PM
are you sure its not the anti rust coating from up north?:rollin:
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: CatCarMan2012 on June 26, 2009, 12:13:19 PM
So thats why my SC rusted out.  I'll have to remember to stab a hole in the oil pan next time.
Title: Shifting problems
Post by: Superdavesds on June 29, 2009, 10:24:58 PM
Mine dont look much better. I blew the rear of the valve cover out and it pretty much coated everything.