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Title: I finally get it
Post by: jcassity on March 08, 2009, 03:00:55 AM
back when these words were said

"create 2.5 to 3 million jobs by 2010"

which evolved into the following (go figure)
"create or save 2.5 to 3 million jobs by 2010"

I finally understand what it all means.
By 2010, there will be 3 million jobs available.

With 12,800 McDonalds around the nation (and recently having been added as a "services sector" job catagory), I would assume that would mean a quarter million of the 2.5 - 3 million saved.  Awsome!! 

I'm lovin it
Title: I finally get it
Post by: shame302 on March 08, 2009, 08:57:37 AM
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back when these words were said

"create 2.5 to 3 million jobs by 2010"

which evolved into the following (go figure)
"create or save 2.5 to 3 million jobs by 2010"

I finally understand what it all means.
By 2010, there will be 3 million jobs available.

With 12,800 McDonalds around the nation (and recently having been added as a "services sector" job catagory), I would assume that would mean a quarter million of the 2.5 - 3 million saved. Awsome!!

I'm lovin it
I'd LOL at this if it weren't both true and disgusting. So many people will have lost their jobs by then, god willing the market bounces back hopefully some jobs will be available.

Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: 86XR7project on March 08, 2009, 10:34:26 AM
I lost my job in December and haven't gotten one yet. I wish I could find this funny.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: massCougarxr7 on March 08, 2009, 11:43:48 AM
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Rest of the country, Welcome to Massachusettes. Enjoy your stay.[/QUOTE]

LMFAO!!!!you said it man.......this frggen state has been in a recession forever....
Title: I finally get it
Post by: shame302 on March 08, 2009, 12:11:02 PM
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LMFAO!!!!you said it man.......this frggen state has been in a recession forever....
It's not only that. It's the liberal left idiocracy BS that makes your head spin off. Only here could you have a legitimate opportunity to vote to abolish the state income tax, vote 75% to keep it but cry and bitch every day about how bad the taxes are, how much worse they are going to get as well as all the bogus spending etc. that goes on here.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: Cougar5.0 on March 08, 2009, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: 86XR7project;260114
I lost my job in December and haven't gotten one yet. I wish I could find this funny.

Same here, but more recently :( It's not meant to be funny - Scott's only function here of late is to stir the pot over clearly political topics.

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...recently changed...

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In the New Economics: Fast-Food Factories?
By DAVID CAY JOHNSTON
Published: Friday, February 20, 2004

Is cooking a hamburger patty and inserting the meat, lettuce and ketchup inside a bun a manufacturing job, like assembling automobiles?

That question is posed in the new Economic Report of the President, a thick annual compendium of observations and statistics on the health of the United States economy.

The latest edition, sent to Congress last week, questions whether fast-food restaurants should continue to be counted as part of the service sector or should be reclassified as manufacturers. No answers were offered.

Economy in state outpaces US growth

(http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Graphic/2008/05/01/1209626055_0875.jpg)

"recession forever" :rollin:
Title: I finally get it
Post by: shame302 on March 08, 2009, 12:26:31 PM
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Scott's only function here of late is to WAKE PEOPLE UP IN LOU" OF RECENT political EVENTS
Fixed. It's called awareness.

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It's not meant to be funny
Nothing funny about any of it.

Your cute little chart does not reflect up to date trends. The market in general is horrible and the state is at its HIGHEST unemployment rate in 25 years. This time next year post another one of your little charts. Preferably not one from the boston glob.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: Cougar5.0 on March 08, 2009, 12:31:24 PM
"recession forever"

...you miss the point - as usual.

:rollin:
Title: I finally get it
Post by: shame302 on March 08, 2009, 12:42:37 PM
I didn't miss the point, your just trying to change the topic. 07' was a great year for me as well as much of 08' but the closer 09' got the slower things got. Things are bad and things will get worse.

fortunately, and ironically you well point out the fact that the "bush" years weren't too bad now were they, fiscally speaking.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: Cougar5.0 on March 08, 2009, 12:45:36 PM
Depression = Bush's legacy

You'd have to me a moron not to comprehend the consequences of his utter failure.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: shame302 on March 08, 2009, 12:56:31 PM
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Depression = Bush's legacy
Typical and predictable. They will have you believing everything negative that will happen for the next 10 years was Bush's fault. Go ahead, keep looking the other way.

None of whats going on right now has anything to do with Obama, I understand completely.;)

Its just going to take longer for some of you to wake up i guess.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: Cougar5.0 on March 08, 2009, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: Cougar5.0;260135


You'd have to me a moron not to comprehend the consequences of his utter failure.


Confirmed.

DeNile, not just a river in Egypt any more!

:rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :evilgrin: :mullet:
Title: Worst President Ever!
Post by: Cougar5.0 on March 08, 2009, 01:09:11 PM
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George W. Bush presented his valedictory last night, desperately seeking thanks and congratulations. So here goes: Thanks and congratulations, W, for showing the world that today's conservatism is an abject failure.

Thanks to Bush, we know that conservatives are not fiscally responsible, they are not for small government, they don't stand up for moral values and they won't make Americans one bit safer. Conservatives aren't even true defenders of "free markets" -- having presided over the biggest market bailout in the world.

After eight long years, Bush can no longer fool the public. Polls show that he is the most unpopular president in the history of survey research. When the 2006 and 2008 elections are considered together, Bush policies resulted in the landslide rejection of his party at both the federal and state levels. There are probably a hundred examples where Bush conservatism failed, but let's stick with the top 10.

1. The worst recession since the 1930s. The current recession will be the deepest and longest downturn since the Great Depression. And unlike other recessions, this one was directly caused by conservative anti-regulatory policy. In fact, recent evaluations show that Bush policies never created any real growth -- the ephemeral financial upswings of the past eight years were based on market bubbles and economic Band-Aids.

2. The worst financial crisis since the 1930s. The Bush administration, flacking an "ownership society," helped manufacture the housing bubble. When it burst, Americans lost $6 trillion in housing wealth (so far), fueling a market crash that has cost Americans $8 trillion of stock wealth, according to economist Dean Baker. On a grand scale, we've been mugged.

3. The worst foreign policy mistake in the history of this country. That's what Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., correctly called the Iraq war. This pre-emptive war -- based on phony pretenses -- is now the second longest in our nation's history (after Vietnam). Some 35,000 Americans are dead or wounded, as well as an enormous number of innocent Iraqis. And even today, more than five years later, can anyone explain why Bush marched us into this quagmire?

4. Unprecedented rejection of human rights. Recently, a Bush administration official finally admitted that the U.S. government engaged in torture at Guantanamo Bay detention center. Bush admitted that he personally authorized waterboarding. While these clear violations of the Geneva Conventions would have been unthinkable a few years ago, today we're not surprised. From Abu Ghraib and extraordinary rendition, to years-long detention of innocents and the unrestrained killing of civilians by U.S.-paid mercenaries, this administration has systematically squandered our nation's moral standing in the world, making us less able to protect Americans and American interests worldwide.

5. Watergate-style abuses of power. As the House Judiciary Committee staff has documented, Bush used the politics of fear and division to justify warrantless wiretapping of innocent Americans (including U.S. soldiers fighting overseas), spying on peaceful domestic groups and the use of national security letters to pry into the private records of millions of Americans. He also presided over illegal politicization of the Justice Department and retribution against critics. In fact, Bush claimed the authority to disobey hundreds of laws -- as if Richard Nixon were right when he famously said: "When the president does it, that means it's not illegal."

6. Unprecedented increases in inequality. The Economic Policy Institute reports, "For the first time since the Census Bureau began tracking such data back in the mid-1940s, the real incomes of middle-class families are lower at the end of this business cycle than they were when it started." That's because Bush policy was designed to increase economic inequality. The richest 1 percent of the population received 36 percent of the Bush tax cuts; the least-affluent 40 percent received only 9 percent. While the rich got exponentially richer, the poverty rate and the percentage of uninsured dramatically increased.

7. A culture of sleaze. This was an administration without shame. Kicked off by Vice President Dick Cheney's secret energy task force, the administration fostered a "greed is good" culture. The subsequent conservative money scandals (Jack Abramoff; White House officials J. Steven Griles and David Safavian;  Republicans Rep. Bob Ney of Ohio, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas, Rep. Duke Cunningham of California and Sen. Ted Stevens of Alaska) and other lawlessness (Cheney's Chief of Staff O. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana, Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho) have toppled the conservative "moral values" façade into the gutter, where it belongs.

8. Blind rejection of science. The Bush administration thumbed its nose at scientific evidence that contradicted conservative political goals. The resulting lies about global warming, endangered species, toxic chemicals and consumer products threaten the health and safety of every American. And the virtual outlawing of stem cell research has delayed important medical advances by years, causing immeasurable suffering and loss of life.

9. Utter refusal to protect the health, safety and legal rights of Americans. Following the conservative business-is-always-right philosophy, Bush dismantled the agencies and rules designed to protect consumers from unscrupulous businesses, workers from reckless employers and small companies from anti-competitive large companies. If conservatives didn't like a federal law, they blocked, hindered or defunded agency enforcement.

10. Presiding over our nation's worst natural disaster, and not caring. Hurricane Katrina was transformed from a calamity into a national disgrace by the sheer incompetence and indifference of the Bush administration. Before the hurricane struck, Bush had downsized the Federal Emergency Management Agency and placed in charge a political crony with no relevant experience. When Katrina ripped through Mississippi and Louisiana and inflicted nearly $100 billion in damages in New Orleans to become the costliest hurricane in U.S. history, FEMA was unprepared to help, and thousands of Americans suffered the consequences. More than three years later, New Orleans still has not recovered.

So, congratulations for being the worst president in American history. That's not just my personal opinion; that's the opinion of 109 historians polled by the History News Network. Fully 61 percent ranked Bush as the "worst ever;" 98 percent labeled his presidency a "failure." And this poll, taken in early 2008, predated the cataclysmic housing and banking crashes. Bye-bye W -- history will not be kind.


:bowdown:

:D
Title: I finally get it
Post by: HAVI on March 08, 2009, 01:15:23 PM
mark-to-market rule, and C.D.O. are the blame for the failure.  Not Bush.  These are banking and mortgage terms, which are a private lending service...not governmental.  Technically you could trace this all the way back to the Carter administration, and the Clinton administration for creating the bubble that has now burst.  However it's much more complicated than that, yet can be summed up in one word:  GREED.  not government.

BTW, after 9-11, the economy sank, but has rebounded faster than any previous time.  You can't fault Bush for getting the U.S. back on track..... it's unfortunate though, that the banks and mortgage lenders took advantage and ran with it. :)  my $.02
Title: I finally get it
Post by: V8Demon on March 08, 2009, 01:15:38 PM
Can we go a week without a political thread on a forum where the rules state that we shouldn't have any?


I'm gonna go drive my Cougar and have a photoshoot.  Behave while I'm gone :shakeass:
Title: I finally get it
Post by: HAVI on March 08, 2009, 01:19:57 PM
In re to #2, it was the Democratic House that proposed the mark-to-market rule that caused all that.  The same people now trying to fix it.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: shame302 on March 08, 2009, 01:31:41 PM
Bush was no doubt the worst prez. ever, UNTIL NOW. We all know that but as bias as that article is, Just you wait till Obama is done with you. I told you so is already appropriate but eventually you will feel that buyer's remorse on your own. Hating bush is just a distraction. Wake up dude.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: Cougar5.0 on March 08, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;260142
Can we go a week without a political thread on a forum where the rules state that we shouldn't have any?


I'm gonna go drive my Cougar and have a photoshoot.  Behave while I'm gone :shakeass:

Agreed.

I've been posting for about 10 years on automotive forums and can count on one hand the number of political type threads that I've started. It only leads to a bad atmosphere and I thought we were all car enthusiasts? If I could resist correcting the "usual lies" that I see posted I would, but the BS in this thread reeks to high heaven.

Off to test my new invention on my car - it's finally warm enough to get out there and start experimenting.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: 86XR7project on March 08, 2009, 01:43:54 PM
Honestly guys politics is NEVER a good topic, always  someone off.
Title: I finally get it
Post by: HAVI on March 08, 2009, 01:46:50 PM
I'm not one to get political....I leave that to my wife who is in politics, and don't like to start any bickering over something we can't control.  That said, it's still greed that got us in this mess.  You can place blame on government people, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the conscience of bankers and mortgage lenders that could have kept it from getting as bad as it has.

BTW, up here where I live, it's been a mini-depression since the early 1980's.  We just deal with it.

i don't take any of this personally either :D
Title: I finally get it
Post by: Thunder Chicken on March 08, 2009, 03:25:25 PM
*sigh*

I'm seriously considering adding "Bush" and "Obama" to the banned words list for this forum...