I found a fairly cheap 302 out of a 94' GT, would it go into the Cougar without a fuss? Are there any differences between the SN95 block and one out of a fox? If so, what would have to be changed in order to use it in my 87' Cougar? I think the accessories may use different brackets, but I'm not sure. Any info would be greatly appriciated.
EDIT: Decided against the SN95 engine even though it'd fit. Still have a few question though, refer to my newest post....
The SN95 Block is the same as the one used in the Fox. The front accessory brackets are definitely different, but should fit no problem. You might have to do custom A/C hose and P/S lines or just switch it over to Fox front accessory drive. Intake Man is lower than Fox and has 45deg bend to Throttle body, but should fit no problem.
Just swap all of your current accessories and brackets onto the new engine.You'll also need a computer for it.I'd imagine if the engine is stock,just get a Speed Density computer from a Stang or Mark VII and plug it in.Use all of the current harnesses and intake (although a Stang intake (upper,throttlebody) would be better.If the engine is complete,you'll have the 19# injectors.If not,you'll need a set.use the fuel rail and everything from your car's current engine.In a nutshell....
Only swap the engine.Take everything from your current engine and bolt it to the new engine.Re-use all of your stock fuel lines (fuel rail) and harnesses.You should upgrade the exhaust if you haven't already.Grab a computer.They're cheap on Ebay.
I would use the newer front acessories if it were me. The upper intake is just about the only thing really different on the engine. I have some e7 heads off of a 91 cougar. The 91-93 cougar/birds with the 5.0 is (almost) the same as the 94-95 mustang intake. The mustang uses a better alt and could be wires up pretty easy. The 94-95 mustangs use electric fans if I remember right, so you will need to use your old water pump pulley.
SN-95 engine bay for reference:
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I like the SN 95 accessories as well,but as far as a/c,and preventing having to plumb new lines,I'd keep the original stuff.The water pump is different as well isn't it?
Water pump and Timing cover are shorter. In fact all of the front accessories sit closer to the motor than on fox 5.0's.
Well my plan was to use everything off of my motor, just use the long block from the SN95. I was also planning on grabbing fox HO stuff that I'll need to go along with it.
As long as you have a plan ;)
Nice sig BTW!
no point in buying a longblock, if you're going to get HO parts. sn95 302's made less HP than the fox version. plus they have cast pistons. best bet, is to keep your eye out for a HO fox motor.
I always plan ahead for everything, but things never go the way you plan so it's kind of pointless. Here's hoping for the best.
I'm pretty sure the horsepower change was due to Ford's changing the way they rated them. The SN95's were rated with the accessories driven, pre-94 (possibly 93) cars were rated without the accessories driven. The hypers wouldn't be a problem for me either as I don't want anything too outrageous, just a justifiable upgrade from stock. The biggest thing I'd be eliminating is fly-cutting the pistons so I can use a decent cam. While a forged pre-93 short block would be nice I think the 200 bucks for a long block and AOD is well worth the price!
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There's a longblock by me right now with forged slugs and 80K on it for $100.....If I can arrange transportation to my house, I'm on it!
I was in Hawaii nabbing GT-40 P motors for $300 a pop, but a forged Fox motor and tranny for $100 is too sweet. Save your other money for a re-ring or spray can rebuild and viola....a fresh motor for less than $300. Lucky you!!
Lucky you - s yards around here think motors are made of gold, nearest one that has decent prices is around 100 miles away. I really want the forged engine so I think I may hold off on the SN95 engine+tranny.
Since I'm waiting I guess I could throw in the random thought of a T-5. How much work is that? Column shift AOD to a T-5 I mean. I almost have the right mind to sell the 20th to someone that'll keep it original and buy a XR7 or similar. I knew nothing about these cars when I bought it and I bought it with the intentions of modding it. Now that I know more about the 20th it doesn't feel right modding it, does that make any sense?
Unless you plan on spraying or blowing it, there's nothing wrong with cast pistons...
Swap the front accessories, timing cover, etc, use a earlier HO upper and '87-'88 Stang SD or '88-'92 LSC EEC and you are good to go...
Thinking about it though I've decided that some form of boost in in my car's future. Hopefully sooner than later I will be able to pick up a Vortech V-1 SC-Trim. But that'll be a while, for now I'm just working on the HO conversion, so I guess my bottem end will be fine for now.
I have a couple more questions if anyone's got a few minutes. I want some real guages so I'm going to pull my stock equalizer and add voltage, oil pressure, and temp guages there. How should I go about hooking those up?
I found some injectors, rails, and FPR from a 95' GT and one set from a 5.0 Explorer, would either be usable on my car?
I'm still curious about the gauges if anyone here has any input. Wouldn't hurt to know about the injectors and all either. But I'm not going full HO right now.
I am going to pick up some stock Mustang headers in the next couple of weeks though. How much work is involved installing them? I've heard so many different things I can't really tell if I'm going to have problems with them fitting or not. Some say fitment is great, but I've also heard others have had problems with the them and the column shifter linkage. I'm going to replace the valve cover gaskets pretty soon too. I've never done anything more involved than a water pump install, or similar. Any tips or anything else I might need to know. Other than just pulling the valve covers, replacing the gaskets, and torquing the covers to the correct specs is there anything I need to know? I'm eventually going to tackle getting some E7s on here, but thats further down the road and alot bigger job I'd assume.