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Technical => Suspension/Steering => Topic started by: rob302 on December 27, 2008, 11:38:05 PM

Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: rob302 on December 27, 2008, 11:38:05 PM
im currently running 225 55 16 on the front but im gonna swap spindles so i can put 13 inch brakes on it but am im gonna slow it down switching to 245 45 17 thanks let me know guys, cause i dont wanna slow it down any switching to a wider tire?????

any input needed

thanks
Robert
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: Haystack on December 28, 2008, 05:34:47 PM
the larger your tires are, and the faster you run, the more your tires weigh. Throw some 16" skinnies on the front.
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: shame302 on December 28, 2008, 05:49:17 PM
it wouldnt really effect et enough (probably not a noticable ammount) to warrent not upgrading brakes/wheels unless you are serious at the track. then skinnies wouldnt be a bad idea if thats your concern but in terms of being any slower than the wheels and tires you have already....probably not.
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: V8Demon on December 28, 2008, 07:18:55 PM
Those sizes are close.  If you search you could most likely find a rim/tire combo that is lighter than what you're currently running while getting the 17's so you can have the 13" brakes.  The question is are you willing to pay for it?

Why do you want 13 inch brakes anyway?
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: 5.8fastcat on December 28, 2008, 08:36:45 PM
The reason for the 13in brakes is the fact that the cougars are very heavy.

 That is the reason for the 13in brakes on my car.  I would put them
on there and not be worried about the track times dropping much.

 Just my  2cents
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: rob302 on December 28, 2008, 09:38:01 PM
what fastcat said the car is strapping over 128 mph in the 1/4 mile and it may be better than that if i add some more timing, basically the 11 inch brakes werent cutting it, also the 98 gt wheels should look good

another question is swapping the 94 mustang spindles gonna throw the camber outta whack? i know i had to compress the spring more to be able to bolt up the strut, ill check the alignment this week, cause i hope to have it back on the track by sunday my rear rotors will be ready tomorrow


Robert
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: Haystack on December 28, 2008, 10:33:49 PM
http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advanced/4to5lug.html
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: V8Demon on December 29, 2008, 07:55:49 AM
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what fastcat said the car is strapping over 128 mph in the 1/4 mile


1.  That's a valid and very good reason
2.  128 MPH? I hate you :hick:
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: 87crzypssy on December 29, 2008, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: 5.8fastcat;249171
The reason for the 13in brakes is the fact that the cougars are very heavy.

 That is the reason for the 13in brakes on my car.  I would put them
on there and not be worried about the track times dropping much.

 Just my  2cents


the words heavy and cougar dont really belong together. FoMoCo hit the power to weight ratio about perfect on these car for sport/daily use. With a v8 anyways.

and for the e.t.,

the wider tire causing that much more rolling resistance might cost you a tenth or two, doubtful you loose much more. Im at a loss to some peoples aspects of wider tires though, unless its a weekend driver the wider tires are not much help in foul weather. ie. hydroplaning and things of the sort. I guess what they loose in versatility they gain in dry traction though.
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: shame302 on December 29, 2008, 11:03:24 PM
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the wider tire causing that much more rolling resistance might cost you a tenth or two, doubtful you loose much more. Im at a loss to some peoples aspects of wider tires though, unless its a weekend driver the wider tires are not much help in foul weather. ie. hydroplaning and things of the sort. I guess what they loose in versatility they gain in dry traction though.
well yeah...every time you mod your car for performance, you lose an ammount of streetability. tis the nature of the game. on the other hand, a new set of 245s or even 275s arent going to hydroplane any more than a 225 if driven reasonably.
 
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the words heavy and cougar dont really belong together. FoMoCo hit the power to weight ratio about perfect on these car for sport/daily use. With a v8 anyways.

not sure i got this. tbirds and cougars are porkey. i do think they are over exaagerated when people call them heavy, but they arent light. with the stock engines and aods in them they feel just gross. my tbirds werent much heavier than my new edge but my new edge is heavy too.....
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: 5.8fastcat on January 02, 2009, 10:34:42 PM
Atleast the new edge car had 285HP which is alot better than
the 150HP NonHO Cougars
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: V8Demon on January 03, 2009, 08:54:59 AM
new edge = 260...
Title: input on tire sizes vs times at the track
Post by: shame302 on January 03, 2009, 01:00:31 PM
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Atleast the new edge car had 285HP which is alot better than
the 150HP NonHO Cougars

true that.
 
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new edge = 260...

yep. still both heavy though. :0(