My aod will not shift out of first gear. It should shift even if its behind a carburated 302 RIGHT? im not sure its my first time trying this combo and wonder if i did something wrong. It goes right into gear in 1st and rev. Just wont shift at all into 2,3,4. any help would be nice!!!!!!:burnout:
Mine was wasted when I had that experience.The bands were toast.My TV cable came out of the grommet and within no time,goodbye AOD.I'm glad I did the 5 speed swap thanks to some rather strong peer pressure here on the board.LOL.
Its what i get for not knowing if it was good huh!! haha
A 5 speed swap is a good idea.I took my time and gathered parts and actually did it pretty cheap.
To each their own, but I'm an automatic fanatic personally. A good automatic is pretty hard to beat. A good forum for you to visit would be Clickclickracing.com. Go to the "clickclicktech" forum. There's a guy in that forum who goes by the screen name "Silverfox" that has forgotten more about AOD's than most tranny guys will ever know. It's hard to believe how much I've learned about AOD's by reading as much as I could in that forum. I'll bet I wore the "search" button out!
"Silverfox" (Dan) is going to build a valve body for me that's got a lot of great features. One of the features included, is no longer needing to adjust the TV cable. Another great feature is that his VB is going to make my overdrive switchable. In other words, my AOD won't shift into OD unless I flip a switch. I'll also be able to adjust shift points, by dropping the pan and turning a screw. These valve bodies are very affordable too (right around $200).
To address the weak, 2-piece input shaft AOD's come with, I had Dirty Dog Performance make a high-stall converter for me that has no direct drive function. That means it doesn't lock up like a normal AOD would in 3rd gear, or 4th gear.
It's a really efficient converter, so I should only run about 200 RPM's higher at cruise on the freeway than I would if my AOD locked up. Silverfox has said on many occasions that deleting the direct drive like I had done, will double the power handling capabilities of your average AOD. Features offered in his custom valve bodies drastically improve the performance these transmissions.
Head over there and start a thread about your tranny. He'll be able to tell you with whatever you need to know Dude. Without spending too much money, you can make AOD's much more durable and pretty potent performance-wise too. Good luck with that thing. :D
That is a good tech sight. Heres a few post to check.
http://www.clickclickracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7339
http://www.clickclickracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7297
possibly the kick down cable not used? they make i think a special adapter to use the aod on carb vehicles i didnt see any mention of it
If you have any questions, I'll do the best to help with the linkage. I'm running a carbed 302 with an AOD.
Here's a pic of the TV Linkage.
Just what I was gonna suggest. Putting a carburetor on an AOD-equipped 302 requires a special bracket for the TV ("kickdown") cable.
The TV cable and/or linkage also may be seized right at the transmission, if the car has sat around for any time. It has a very weak return spring on it, and if there's too much resistance it will go to WOT position the first time you floor the car (even if only pumping the gas to start it) and will not return. This will cause the tranny to act like you've always got your boot into it (near redline upshifts). It happened to my '88 Cougar before I bought it (the dealership thought the tranny was fvcked)...
I would like to add what I learned about the kickdown.
You don't want to use a carb designed with the kickdown linkage. It only "kicksdown" when at WOT.
What you do want is a standard throttle assy like the one in my picture. For an AOD you need to have increasing pressure on the TV cable/rod through the whole range of motion on the throttle.
If you run a C4/C6 etc... you would use the kickdown method.
Hope this helps.
I have the same problem, on my 87 fuel injected 5.0. It worked fine when removed from the car, which leads me to believe it should still be fine. Is there supposed to be a vacuum line? Where does it connect on the tranny, where on hte other end?
as said once....the AOD need solid connection and must be stroked through the whole motion of the throttle...it is a TV system (THROTTLE VALVE) and kickdown is just for c4/c6
Welcome silverfox. Red a lot of your articles, very infomative.
Mine was a problem I think of both low tranny fluid and the indicator thing with the prndl thing. I had the one from a turbo coupe which has an extra gear over the aod.
Just thought I would let you know.
I got the aod to work but I was just wondering if any one knows if there is a braket for the TV cable to hook up to the 302 carb witch is a holley. Thanks for your time.
yes,, what you are looking for is a bracket that is found normally on a CFI application. The Throttle / TV orientation is on the driver side of the CFI, perfect for your appication. It is a bracket that mounts to the drivers side rear intake.
I couldnt find a decent shot of it but someone here has a CFI without aircleaner installed pic im sure. Typically this bracket only holds the cruise / throttle be can be adapted for a TV cable as well. Once you lay it out, your going to need to hook the cable end directly to the lower part of one of your Carb linkages, not upper. This will get you moving the cable in the correct direction (pulling) while push on the gas pedal. From here, you can figure it out. Typically there is a set screw fine tune up at the CFI / Carb as well as a fine tune at the trans linkage. Again, this is stuff you can figure out when you get to it.
the biggest part is finding a bracket.
if you want to use the braket AND ROD(like your photo) is also on the 82/83/84 crownvic, that had the AOD with the motorcraft 2V carbs.
also check 81/82 cougar/t-bird with the 255V-8 and AOD. thats what casper has and i'm switch over to 306 roller and motorcraft 4V.
i use the same system when i installed a 1970 351W 4V engine into a 1985 mustangGT with factory AOD. that was 8 YEARS AGO for friend. he still daily driving that same car.
if you want to know more about that system .pick up a ford factory shop manual. not one of those aftermarket book. the factory manual tell you how to adjust the rod system. you can find one on ebay cheep.