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I dare say the bubble has officially been burst. I've been arguing with my friends over this since I first read their initial letter drafted in 2007. There are so many reasons to get off of our dependence on oil, why not focus on those? Creating fear based on lies will only serve to create more distrust for our leaders, the UN, and the scientific community.
They sold us all on this story. Now I have one for them.
The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
Not all of us, they cry "global warming" and my pipes froze last year, were having record cold days here in my area, for me it all boils down to simply "look out the window" there idiots.
it's just an argument that's not worth making, people will believe what and who they want to believe, is not for me to change there mind, so I seldom argue the point.
Great post. i kind of just borrowed it.
Feel free, man! And thanks. :cheers:
Never bought into it...have always felt sorry for those who felt pressured to change and probably didnt want to. My uncle can well afford the gas but got rid of his '99 Suburban and got a COBALT 4 door....because he thought it was the right thing to do. Bragging to me about it having the "california emissions package" so its cleaner than anything out there blah blah. He ALWAYS has had big cars...before I was born it was a cordoba then a marquis etc etc. He had the thing a year and compromised by getting an Equinox. So you downgrade to some tiny go-kart that you DONT like at all because someone says you should and you don't even know if theyre right.
I've just always felt that the planet and its athmosphere is waaaay too big for us to have an impact, other influences like the sun considered as well lol.
I'm like Heston with my car...."from my cold dead fingers".
Don't get me wrong. Cutting down on pollution is a noble cause. Air pollution kills a frightening amount of people. 440 annually in Toronto. Imagine how many die in cities with real smog. It kills more people in California than car crashes. http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/11/13/why-we-care-dirty-air-in-california-kills-more-people-than-car/
It's the lie to get us to cut down on our emissions that is the shame here. Their attempt to scare people into action may be the thing that makes everything worse. Talk about bad timing, to hear this news just as gas is at $1.50/gal. So many people may now abandon the cause of seeking clear skies because they felt they were deceived, and that there really was no threat. Well, the threat to our polar bears is null, but the threat to our lungs is very real, and should be our real reason to become green. Give your uncle a pat on the back, but remind him that he did it for the wrong reasons. ;)
So no, we don't have a measurable effect on our weather. We do, however, kill ourselves every day.
Well yeah it was the global warming nothing else that's what I can't stand.
Once again, I agree with Oldraven: Global warming or not, there's nothing wrong with cutting emmissions and conserving fuel.
One of the worst things about the global warming scare is that it focuses everyone's attention on what is probably the most harmless byproduct of fossil fuels (CO2) and invites seriously polluting alternatives (*cough*Prius*cough*). I've been to Sudbury, Ont (I was there 29 years ago, before it was cleaned up). Nobody will ever convince me that avoiding a little CO2 is worth that mess.
The same scientists warning of global warming were trying to convince us we were heading into the next ice age three decades ago.
Just think of all the cheap domestic energy we have access to (coal) that we can't burn because of a bunch of Chicken Littles are worried about the CO2...
My v-8 tbird gets better emissions then my wife's 98 neon. Get almost the same gas mileage too. If I keep my foot outta the gas, my car would get alot better. Like 5mpg or so.
i was hoping someone would have posted a tree stump last year along side of this one just to see what they both say.
At the least, it would make a good field trip for the kids.
Darn, and I was hoping we'd have warmer weather here in the Northeast (as I sit here in the dark typing on my Blackberry with no power due to an ice storm, trees falling all around my house :( )