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Technical => Misc Tech => Topic started by: jpc647 on November 29, 2008, 10:44:24 PM

Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: jpc647 on November 29, 2008, 10:44:24 PM
I'm looking for a photo or two of the sticker on the radiator shroud. I am particularly interesed in the vacuum diagram on the right side, but clear digital picture of each would be great.

I cant read the part number on it, and I doubt that they would still be availible, there are a lot of nice cars on here, I'm sure one of you has a sticker in good shape.

Also a picture of the belt routing from the radiator support would be great!

Feel free to email them to JPC647@charter.net

Thank you guys!
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: Haystack on November 29, 2008, 10:50:02 PM
(http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/mustangFoxFordVacuumDiagram.jpg)

(http://www.cjponyparts.com/Pictures/Tech_50belts.gif)

you guys need to start doing searches.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: Carpimp1987 on November 30, 2008, 02:32:27 AM
sorry mine all peeled off or got black paint on them
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: Haystack on November 30, 2008, 05:04:50 AM
Quote from: Carpimp1987;245424
sorry mine all peeled off or got black paint on them


Because nothing I posted could possibly help him at all, and your post really added and helps him solve his problem.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: jcassity on November 30, 2008, 09:51:51 AM
:rollin:
Quote from: Haystack;245440
Because nothing I posted could possibly help him at all, and your post really added and helps him solve his problem.


:rollin:

classic!!!

nice vac pic, ill add that to the diy for future ref.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: jpc647 on November 30, 2008, 09:35:09 PM
Thanks You!

Now does anyone know if any company makes a belt that elimintates the ac? I know on my sticker if showd the routing for a belt "less ac". Were the 5.0's availible in 87 without an AC option? If thats true, I would love one of those belts to simply eliminate my ac compressor. Anyone know the brands?

I've called CAP, Napa, and Autozone, and none have a listing for an 87-88 without an AC? How does the Ford AC eliminator part work? How does the power steering pump bolt where the AC was?
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: Haystack on December 01, 2008, 12:19:47 AM
The v-8's all had ac stardard. I dont see how you could eliminate the ac and still have power steering unless you litterly elimintae it.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: jpc647 on December 04, 2008, 04:38:17 PM
Anyone have the colored vacuum diagram like the one above?
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: V8Demon on December 04, 2008, 04:58:34 PM
Quote from: Haystack;245556
The v-8's all had ac stardard. I dont see how you could eliminate the ac and still have power steering unless you litterly elimintae it.


To use any of the A/C eliminator kits on the market, you'd have to also use a fox Mustang power steering bracket as the eliminator kits will not work with the Cougarbird brackets.  I'm partial to the Ford kit as it actually was a factory option in '85 or '86 and looks the cleanest as it does not replace the A/C pulley with an idler, it deletes it altogether.


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Anyone have the colored vacuum diagram like the one above?


I've never seen one like that one in color.....Here's one 88 5.0 HO specific.  Differences, if any, will be minor (elec. wire colors)

(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk191/V8Demon/Car%20Tech/88Stang5_0Vacuum.gif)
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: vinnietbird on December 04, 2008, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;246160
.  I'm partial to the Ford kit as it actually was a factory option in '85 or '86 and looks the cleanest as it does not replace the A/C pulley with an idler, it deletes it altogether.

I agree.I am using that setup on the Sport.Very clean,functional,and using factory parts.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: jpc647 on December 04, 2008, 07:44:50 PM
You mean the belt that simply bypasses the condensor? There are 2 availible at the local parts store, I wasn't sure if it was oging to simply delete the ac or require a idler.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: V8Demon on December 04, 2008, 08:41:34 PM
If you delete the A/C you'll have to move the power steering pump with the Ford kit, replace the A/C pulley with another kit, or run without power steering.  You can't just slip on a belt and bypass the A/C and attempt to run the power steering with it in the stock location while doing no other action.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: jcassity on December 04, 2008, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: jpc647;245524
Thanks You!

Now does anyone know if any company makes a belt that elimintates the ac? I know on my sticker if showd the routing for a belt "less ac". Were the 5.0's availible in 87 without an AC option? If thats true, I would love one of those belts to simply eliminate my ac compressor. Anyone know the brands?

I've called CAP, Napa, and Autozone, and none have a listing for an 87-88 without an AC? How does the Ford AC eliminator part work? How does the power steering pump bolt where the AC was?


you need to learn about belt part numbers.  next time your in a parts store, ask them how the part number works.  You will learn how to just look at the belt and determine if it will work for your car.

another thing you have to learn,,,, belt makers do not make a belt for a car,, the belt is simply made and the car happens to fit in it.  Belt makers make a variety of belts based on many things but one specific car is not a reason to make a belt.  My coug belt may be find for another car but since I short belted , my new belt is simply a qty of ribs, and length.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: jpc647 on December 14, 2008, 11:36:06 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;246191
If you delete the A/C you'll have to move the power steering pump with the Ford kit, replace the A/C pulley with another kit, or run without power steering.  You can't just slip on a belt and bypass the A/C and attempt to run the power steering with it in the stock location while doing no other action.


So you can put the power steering where the ac is? How does it bolt up? Is there a seperate mounting bracket? Will the power steering line I already have reach or will I have to change the line? I definately want the power steering.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: Haystack on December 15, 2008, 01:08:25 AM
read what every one else said
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: V8Demon on December 15, 2008, 10:29:25 AM
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So you can put the power steering where the ac is? How does it bolt up? Is there a seperate mounting bracket? Will the power steering line I already have reach or will I have to change the line? I definately want the power steering.


Mounts right up.  Just follow the directions that come with the Ford kit (or whichever kit you choose) and find a fox Mustang power steering bracket to use with it.

Here's mine.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: Cougar5.0 on December 15, 2008, 11:33:24 AM
Quote from: Haystack;245440
Because nothing I posted could possibly help him at all, and your post really added and helps him solve his problem.


Thanks, I was shaking my head and checking time stamps :punchballs: :flame: :mullet: :toilet: :flip:

Edit, oh, and I'm partial to replacing the AC compressor with another compressor. It's a little bit more money up front, but a whole lot more fun :hick:

(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e360/Domeskull/Engine9-30-06.jpg)
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: jpc647 on December 15, 2008, 11:52:13 AM
Thats was funny. I just don't have the money for that at the moment. Will any fox body mustang power steering bracket work or only specific years? The reason I'm so adament about this is trying to change a thermostat in one of these cars with the ac there is a pain. It is near impossible to get at the bottom bolt for the elbow with it there.

Would this be what I'm looking for?
http://dagostinoracing.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=15983
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: V8Demon on December 15, 2008, 05:43:59 PM
yup.
Title: For those of you with an 87 V8
Post by: jpc647 on December 15, 2008, 06:01:11 PM
Sweet, thank you!