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ignore the missing headlamp housing's...

i found some NIB through a buddy of mine,and i bought an HID light setup.

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its filthy,but ive been driving the hell out of the thing

wasnt this the one that was o nthe forum for sale for a long tiime? lol

yes it is,why?

The wheels look great.New lights will really look good also.Any plans coming up for the old Cat?

just had a c4 built for the car,wit ha decent converter and transbrake.

in the process right now of getting the mark7 rearend built with the gears/axles/girdle

the motor is getting a new cam/timing chain{if it needs it} this coming weekend,and a NOS 2 stage cheater kit,with my holley double pumper.

im redoing the entire fuel system with -10 feed for the motor,and mounting the 3 gallon cell in the trunk for the nitrous enrichment,also need to remount both fuel pumps,mount both regulators and run a ton of new lines.

-10 feed,with a -8 return for the motor
-8 feed,with a -6 return for the nitrous enrichment
will aslo be routing -6 line for the trans cooler,and mounting the new transcooler w/efan combo.

tearing the JUNK megashifter out and putting in a cheetah shifter.

im also going to mount a double din screen in the dash,and redo how the previous owner has the gauge's laid out,i also need to remove the speedo/tach cluster out and wire in turn signal blinkers,and high beam led's so i know whats going on.

adding a trans temp gauge,and 2 fuel pressure gauges,and jsut tidy'n up some of the stuff done,that i do not aprove of.

i have my hands full...but all in all,its not that bad,ive already gotten alot accomplished.


in the spring,im just going to spray the current motor until it pops,and then most likely build a REAL motor for the car.

most likely a 418ish cube motor,afr heads and all the other usual goodies

by the end of the year,the car better be going 10.50s or im going to burn it to the ground lol.

edit, i forgot its also getting a repaint had planned on going with a gunmetal mettalic greyish....but,i think im just going to stick with the blue for ease and simplicity.

This will be the last thing i say on this thread, subtle but slandering the previous owner. Oh well! Its only human....oh ya...its a Star Shifter by the way!! Good luck with the project! Seem you got your work cut out for ya! Plans seems to be good! Hope you enjoy blowing up the motor!!!!

should i jsut let it go then? and go about my merry way....

hmmm...lets see here dude.

within 5 minutes of you guys leaving...

i discovered the following.

the thermostat housing blew and pissed antifreeze everywhere.
the trans you claimed to be fresh,slipped horribly in every gear.
bolts on the trans bellhousing were loose
speedometer stopped working within 5 miles of you dropping it off.
the fuel cells mounted the wrong way
the car continued to run when the key was shut off
the headlight switch was all kinds of jacked up
there was no PCV in the motor,instead you had an open vacuum leak the entire time,and you told me it was caused by the choke being misadjusted.
the shifter was horribly misadjusted,would skip over gears.
plug wires were all burned on the headers

i could go on and on.


and please,point out to me where i "slander" you? that would mean i am falsely saying something about you,and i have not...everything i have spoken is 100% fact,therefore my friend,its hardly slander...its just considered the cold hard truth.

just be lucky i am as understanding as i am,if you would have sold this car to someone ELSE with all the BS claims you made,someone else might be so understanding. you claimed this car was a daily driver for what..2 years? there isnt a chance in hell you drove this for 2 years,with all the issues it had when it rolled off the trailer.

im not upset about any of that anymore however,in reality im only in this car 200 bucks,and i have my other transam,i do however know,not to deal with you again,and id highly advise against anyone else doing so.

It sounds like you're pretty much starting from scratch.Good luck,and keep us up to date on everything.

not really,just fixing a few things here and there,and updating some items. but its a decent amount of work...

i will keep you guys updated with pics and then some vids in the spring.

Your a joke dude!!!! I drove that car with no problems and you are thinking up things!! And you just make a list of probs to once again make me look bad!!! I could make a list tens time as long with how you mislead me on the car you gave me, so don"t get me started!! Many people have seen that car out on the road everyday, so you can just shove your BS accusations!! And i did advise to leave the tranny in the car, but instead you wanted the other one that sat for  a little while, that was rebuilt WITH MILES ON IT, before i took it out of a car, and never once stated that i had it rebuilt and it was fresh!So glad that you like misleading people into thinking i am an A**!! Good Day!

love is in the air..........:jerry: 

(always wanted to use the jerry emoticon :beatyoass:)

ha ha! Just not very happy with the situation and i apologize for spouting off on the forum!

i mislead you about the transam? i took pictures of ANYTHING and everything you wanted and asked for...kinda hard for pictures to lie,you knew about EVERYTHING.

you had the car listed on ebay as perfect mechanical condition....

yet 4 days before you were supposed to be bringing it here,a trans issue magically popped up,of course id want the trans you had that you stated was rebuilt in the car,whoever rebuilt that trans is a moron.

and actually,it has nothing to do with me being happy,im happy about the car...just unhappy with your BS.

just like the carb we traded,you said said was a holley 4150...WRONG...its a holley 4160 vac secondary,yet you got my 800 edelbrock....THAT ACTUALLY WAS an 800 edelbrock.

funny how im making shiznit up according to you, but i texted you and CALLED you instantly when i found this shiznit out...,and you probably hadnt even made it back to the freeway when i called.

Never said the Holley was a 4150 anyways! I only said it was a 600 Holley! and you got the 600 edelbrock that was 2 months old, that i GRACIOUSLY left on it!  And that 800 looks like it when through a warn zone! And i did not know everything about the T/A! Almost left with the Cougar on the trailer, but could not see SPENDING ALL THAT TIME AND MONEY FOR NOTHING! But in the end will be worth it, MAYBE! It just so happened to stumble across things as i tore it apart! The tranny that was in the car worked just fine, except for the, an i mean the slightest hang from 2nd to third, and was only noticeable barely at high RPM's! Did you not have one problem with that car other than the ignition prob, which i mentioned to you, i take it all apart, it goes back together, down the and on a trailer, all the way to Illinois, and poof, its a completely different car! Amazing how that happens! I could make a real nice list of things that were mislead on the T/A, or not even said, until i saw it with my own eyes, six hours across two states, but i wasnt going to say anything till you started running your mouth and bad mouthing me! First on the T/A forum, and now here! Everything i told you was FACT, and frankly at this point don't care what you think about it! You say are HAPPY with the car, so why you still griping about it? Funny how i went from a stand up guy, to a guy who everyone should not buy anything from, or sell to! I forgot to mention the VERY MINOR, ALMOST NOT EVEN THERE tranny hang, so rather than driving up there with and you not knowing, i thought i would tell ya, but yet that wasnt good enough, i am a bad person for changing out the tranny at your request, rather than sticking you with it! I put a tranny in that had sat for some time, but worked perfectly fine when it was taken out, but i guess from sitting around it just started slipping! Maybe it magically got burned up! I NEVER BS'ed about anything i told you, you just now that you are a little unhappy, you can run your mouth about me! It's ok i can take it! And i was pretty much on the Pike when you called about the leaking water neck! shiznit happens when its 20 degrees out! Wooppie a 20 dollar fix! I gave you a non roller, and i got a roller that i have to put $1200 if not more, (3 times that if i buy new panels) in an interior, that only needed panels redyed and a carpet, and build a drivetrain for! Hope the rear end has a diff and some gears, might tear into it and find them blew apart! Also needs every piece of weather stripping replaced, rather than just the T-top pieces! Flares are junk, and need new ones now, need a windshield, and the rest of the glass is pretty well scratched up! Oh yea, and i cut half the passengers side floor pan out today because it was rusted out, and or full of pin holes! Looks like that 20 MINUTE job, will take a little longer! Any among other things, looks like you made out! You SAY u need a tranny in the Cougar (700 fix), and guess what, you can go down the road and enjoy your car! I have to put $4000 in the T/A to get it down the road! Looks like you made out like a BANDIT!!!!!!

whats done is done fellas. Hold grudges but dont bicker back and fourth. think of the cars not the people.

they make an ignore button for a reason

Sounds Like A Great Plan!! End Of Story! Whats Done Is Done And Im Over It!  Sorry For Bringing This To The Forum Guys! My Apologies And Sorry For Messing Up This Thread! Its Done!

LOL...you knew EVERYTHING i knew about that car,PERIOD end of story.

and you saw EVERYTHING i saw,in pictures...pictures do not lie,they were all HIGH RES,not some shiznitty ass cell phone pics.

i think what your failing to realize,is im not upset about the car,i have the mechanical know how to fix all the stupid little shiznit that is wrong,or was put together wrong...what has me irritated,is the dishonesty involved,and you are trying to just turn it around back on me?

and FYI,there isnt any way in hell you were back on the "pike",you MAY have been on i80,thats about it. it was 15-20 minutes at the max when i called you,told you the speedo didnt work,the thermostat housing blew....this is when you acused me of "running the hell out of the car".....


lol and you wanna say i mislead you about the car...LOL,and that you almost left with the cougar? haha...i looked at it for 5 minutes and you guys unloaded it,and this was AFTER you had already looked at my car.

now yo uwanna claim the rearends blown up? hmmm

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that is the VERY last time the car ran/drove under its own pwoer udner my ownership...drove it back into the driveway...and it sat there...yeah,your right,rearends do just blow up out of nowhere. get a clue man.

and FYI,you never told me that "rebuilt" trans had sat there for awhile....and another FYI,its entirely possible for a trans to go bad if its been just sitting long enough.


explain to me why i would even bother saying any of this,i have no reason to bullshiznit,and its not like i have asked you for ANYTHING,in fact when i told you after you had just left that the thermo blew and the speedo didnt work...you pretty much told me to **** off.

and uhm yes...

and about the holley 4150/4160 debate...so,like your previous storys to me...which ones the truth? because now i have heard 3 different storys about the same carb.....

and you claim you never said it was a 4150?...are you ENTIRELY sure about this?....?........

here is the COPY and paste from your original ad,as well as your EBAY ad...which is still up.

Engine: Originally 3.8, Now has an 87 302 truck motor
Engine: 302 with E-7 heads
        Ford Racing Chrome Valve Covers
        Edelbrock Aluminum Intake (Dual Plane)
        Holley 4150 (650 CFM)
        Has little over mild cam (can not remember specs)
        Internals are stock (other than cam and lifters)
        March Alternator and Power steering brackets
        March Under drive Pulleys
        March Ram Air Kit

so now is it a 650,a 600,750?

and my 800 looked like it went through a war zone? LOL,it was dirty,it came off a RUNNING/DRIVING vehicle,a quick shot of carb cleaner would have made it look brand new again,and you again,said absolutely nothing to me when i handed it to you,in fact yo uasked me about it,because i had forgot we agreed to that on the phone. again,you got what promised you,and i got another BS lie.


you also said the car had been repainted....its NEVER been painted,except of course...in 1988

i could go on and on.



and keep in mind,in this thread...i made no statements about you,YOUR the one who felt the need to chime in,maybe your a little pissy because your mechanical skills are severely lacking,im not quite sure...all i know is myself,i will never deal with you again,and id HIGHLY advise against anyone else doing so.

MECHANICAL SKILLS LACKING!! THAT MADE ME LAUGH! Not True, i did not no everything about the car! I am tired of going back and forth about it! All i said was its a starshifter and you were slandering me, saying i did this and that wrong, and you get all pissy! and the car was re painted before it sat for 3 years, something else that i did tell you, and any person could tell that it was by looking at the bottom of the rockers! I done with this, as you claim i am a liar, which i am clearly not, and then you go and tell me my mechanical skills are lacking...YOU DON'T know shiznit about me, not my fault i had to tear a  near perfectly working car apart, to appease you, in a matter of two days, because you had no time, or space to work on something! By u saying the tranny does not work, does not mean my mechanical skills are lacking, and the rear end statement, was a figure of speech, not a real thing! It was a joke, and i was not saying it was literally blown up, but rather, if it was, then what? I just want to say goodbye to this thread, as i am done with it!

Nice wheels i always wanted them for old T-Bird thanks for showing me how they look. i sorta wanted to buy that cougar nice ride. Also the dash and gauges are nice 2.

hmm,let me question your mechanical skills...

first off...

the cars ignition system was wired improperly,this is why the car continues to run after the ign key is shut off.

the car had no thermostat gasket,this is why it blew on me 5 minutes after you left.

the fuel cell was mounted wrong,facing forward,when the sump should face the rear of the vehicle,along with that,you put the wrong fuel sender into the cell,the cells 11 inch's deep,you put the 8.5 inch sender in it,this is why the gauge reads EMPTY when it still has 4-5+ gallons left in it,and you STATED it was acurate{of which i asked you if it read correctly}

the PCV connection on the carb,went into an open element BREATHER straight into the valve cover,WITHOUT a PCV valve,thus causing a tremendous vaccuum leak,which also caused the high idle that you claimed was a choke misadjustment.

the stereo doesnt even have a mounting kit,it was just shoved in.

the gauge's arent even properly mounted,they just lay in there,with nothing securing them.

shall i go on?

funny thing about the paint,every cougar ive looked at,has had the same style paint on the rockers.....there is no overspray ANYWHERE.... so about that repaint again?

thanks for the compliments,yea..it just needed a new owner and some TLC here and there,otherwise,its a good car.

Guys, This thread is turning into a big waste of time for everyone.
Lets keep on the subject without the bashing.

meh,im done and over it,i have been...he came into the thread,not my issue.

people need to be aware of this thought,wouldnt you wanna know that if buying a car/motor/anything from him?

I'm with Jerry.I truly hate the drama.There's a PM for everyone to use for this stuff.Maybe it's the holiday season starting to shorten tempers.

what boggles my mind is,how nobody even cares to know what happened,they would just rather not hear about it.

but like i said,im done with it...the guys a tool,and his work is shoddy,at best...