I like the hood, the grille, the headlamps, the rear haunches below the quarter window glass, the rear emblem.
I DON'T like the rear tail lights (something aboout the lower portion's angle) or the fact that there are two different styles of dash vents. The square ones in the center don't fit with the rest of the upper portion. The whole center section clashes with the upper portion as well. 2 different themes vying for your attention.
The 19 inch rims are pure, unadulterated shag. I want them for mine.
(http://www.fast-autos.net/data/images/41980.jpg)
(http://www.fast-autos.net/data/images/41981.jpg)
(http://www.fast-autos.net/data/images/41982.jpg)
The new motor doesn't come untill 2011.....
I'll wait.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: DVP on November 18, 2008, 11:41:55 AM
Is that a camera in the deck spoiler or the trunk lock? Think its a camera. The tail lights don't bother me as much as what I saw of the rear bumper. Its really smooth out back yet very aggressive up front. There is more to be desired out back, kind of like the 5.7 GTOs. 6.0 had a little help with the duals and rear bumper but I still thought it should look more aggressive. I wonder if they are going to make and major changes still.
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Post by: V8Demon on November 18, 2008, 11:49:36 AM
Doubtful. Most of this is straight from Ford websites.....
Click on "cars" in http://www.fordvehicles.com/
The 2010 comes up....
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on November 18, 2008, 12:22:26 PM
Eh to each their own i actually like the new rear end at least they did not just leave the rear end alone like they were un-interested in it like in 05 - 06.
Bland and unstyled (http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200606/2007-ford-mustang-gt-5_380x0w.jpg)
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Post by: 88FoxBird on November 18, 2008, 12:56:54 PM
Still dont like it. Back end looks better though.
And whats with all the low angle front shots?
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Post by: V8Demon on November 18, 2008, 01:19:44 PM
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at least they did not just leave the rear end alone like they were un-interested in it like in 05 - 06. Bland and unstyled
The decklid spoilers that Ford has used have ruined the look of the back of every Mustang they have ever put them on from '74 to now.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 5.0 tbird on November 18, 2008, 01:24:08 PM
I like it, but I like the 05-08s too.
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Post by: shame302 on November 18, 2008, 01:53:07 PM
i like it. i like this ones interior more and im getting used to the look. some of the spy shots had me worried but these look okay. would have been nice if they did something with the engine for 10'
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Post by: yellow86coogr on November 18, 2008, 03:10:17 PM
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The decklid spoilers that Ford has used have ruined the look of the back of every Mustang they have ever put them on from '74 to now.
eh. you just don't like wings. No wing is like having a spider butt in my opinion. Like a grandma's car. I always thought the 05-09 body was the best looking mustang ever made. I was hoping they change nothing. like someone said before, to each thier own. Seeing it in person may change my view of course. I am always hoping someone would customize the new stang into a modern cougar just for kicks. Like the aftermarket stangs.
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Post by: Romeo2k on November 18, 2008, 03:28:49 PM
I like the shape of the rear end, the humps on the rear give a nice aggressive look but remind me of a late model dodge though...
The front could be better, the instrument cluster is ugly and the rims are gorgeous.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: Chuck W on November 18, 2008, 03:34:41 PM
Yup, still ugly...
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Post by: shame302 on November 18, 2008, 05:25:22 PM
not digging that little piece of plastic at the bottom of the front fender/bumper location.
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on November 18, 2008, 05:58:48 PM
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The decklid spoilers that Ford has used have ruined the look of the back of every Mustang they have ever put them on from '74 to now
I wanted spoiler delete on my car but my wife insisted on it...so it was either no mustang or mustang with spoiler!
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: Turbo 88 on November 19, 2008, 12:10:00 AM
I agree...to a point. I don't like the factory spoilers, and (lucky for me) my S-197 is a spoiler delete car. I'm considering a 3 piece duck tail for mine.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: tc² on November 19, 2008, 12:16:53 AM
I'm not as impressed as when the '05s were unveiled, but it looks good. One thing that I do like about the new body style is the look of the 4.0. The last V6 Mustang looked like a red-headed step-child.
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Post by: ipsd on November 19, 2008, 08:32:19 AM
Are you sure they are gonna build it? Ford not doing so hot right now. Yesterday they sold off 2/3 of there stake in Mazda. I love to hate the new stang but will they really build it?
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: oldraven on November 19, 2008, 08:48:05 AM
I like it better than the current one. It looks like it has heritage cues without being a full on retro design. Almost refined. The colour coded light up sill plates are a bit ricey, though.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: EricCoolCats on November 19, 2008, 09:04:10 AM
Ugly taillights, but they are sequential...that's a tough call.
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on November 19, 2008, 09:10:36 AM
Are they sequential, Eric? It's against federal motor vehile standards to install sequential lights from the factory (but perfectly legal to install them once the car has been shipped - as you can imagine, I've done some research on the legality of sequential lights). I'm kinda hoping they are sequential - it'll be an advertising boon for me - I'll be able to say "Make your lights sequence like the new ones" instead of "make your lights sequence like the 40-year-old ones that most of you have never seen"...
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: Turbo 88 on November 19, 2008, 09:34:20 AM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;243803
I'll be able to say "Make your lights sequence like the new ones" instead of "make your lights sequence like the 40-year-old ones that most of you have never seen"...
:spit:
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: Chuck W on November 19, 2008, 09:36:04 AM
The only thing I kind of like is that Brick Red and black interior. Not for the fact that I like the car, but that the combo would have looked good in the '80 XR-7....
WAH! I miss that car :(
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: EricCoolCats on November 19, 2008, 09:41:20 AM
Yeah, it's confirmed for the sequentials...from the PDF file on the Ford site:
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EXTERIOR STYLING The new power dome hood, bumpers, fenders, quarter panels, doors, rear end, grilles, fascias and wheels make the all-new 2010 Mustang design look fast … even when it’s standing still. Other key design features include: • All-new wheel designs • LED sequential taillamps • Body-color exterior mirrors • Fog lamps
Also a great write-up about the styling here: http://jalopnik.com/5091681/2010-ford-mustang-design-dissected
And everyone seems to be overlooking the V6 cars...this seems MUCH better and cleaner: (http://www.autoextremist.com/storage/must1.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1227000227415)
Look at how the absence of fog lamps in the grille area makes the V6 cars look wider and leaner. I've said that about the '05 cars also, but the new '10 version really emphasizes that point.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: DVP on November 19, 2008, 10:35:11 AM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;243803
I'll be able to say "Make your lights sequence like the new ones" instead of "make your lights sequence like the 40-year-old ones that most of you have never seen"...
:rollin: LOL
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 50tbrd88 on November 19, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
I like the front end I guess but the more I look at it the more it looks like a Mustang II. Also I hate how the rearend slopes forward the further you get out towards the tail lights.
I don't know I guess I'll have to wait and see one in person before I judge.
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Post by: V8Demon on November 19, 2008, 06:02:04 PM
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Also I hate how the rearend slopes forward the further you get out towards the tail lights.
2 door Accord/G37 styling cues IMHO.
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on November 19, 2008, 06:06:35 PM
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2 door Accord/G37 styling cues IMHO.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Not that G37's are bad looking cars (I actually kinda like them) I just don't like that look on the 'Stang.
One thing I'll say is that the interior of the '10 looks GREAT.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: FLSTCI71 on November 19, 2008, 07:02:21 PM
I watched the unveilling on the Speed Channel last night. I like the new ones, but I like the 05-09 a lot better yet. That may change when I see them in person. I do like the '10 interior better. Overall, they're still looking good!!
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: Turbo 88 on November 19, 2008, 07:24:50 PM
The trunk lid looks horribly foreshortened compared to an '05-09
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: V8Demon on December 23, 2008, 01:44:19 PM
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: pegasus on December 23, 2008, 02:16:22 PM
o yeah i like that tons better then the 05
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Post by: Romeo2k on December 23, 2008, 02:21:38 PM
I dunno man, Looks kinda of awkward to me. And why does the V6 seem to have a better styling. :hick:
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: t3skidoo on December 23, 2008, 02:28:15 PM
The V6 is getting there but Ford needs to figure out how to make the ass-end look better and lose about 500 lb. My suggestion is to make them shorter (as in 'untaller').
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: blackcougar71 on December 23, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
i am glad there making the new mustang but why do they have to make it look like a diaster. but one of the cool things i read about its the one of the svt cobra or special packages is going to be a high output twin turbo v6 diesel to be just some what like the gtr skyline.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: Turbo 88 on December 23, 2008, 03:25:05 PM
um......what?
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: LittleAngel1198 on December 23, 2008, 04:02:52 PM
Those red seats are just shagy! I like the new style....all of it.
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Post by: vinnietbird on December 23, 2008, 04:20:42 PM
I like it.I like the dash as well.The a/c vents seem fine to me.The center vents fit in with the shape of the dash and the rectangle layout beneath it,and the round vents fit the rounded edges of the ends of the dash.The front end is awesome.It seems a lot more aggressive in appearance.I still haven't seen a god pic of the tail end yet.Good looking car,though.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 50tbrd88 on December 23, 2008, 05:35:59 PM
After seeing the picture of the '05-'09 next to the 2010 I gotta say IMO the new ones are ugly in comparison. Oh well.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: Haystack on December 23, 2008, 08:28:59 PM
it almost bugs me how much they changed it. I still really don't care too much for it...
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Post by: BCA on December 24, 2008, 11:01:04 AM
What is with the headlamp assemblies on this Grabber Blue car?
The turn signals and headlights are reversed compared to every other 2010 car I have seen pictures of.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: yellow86coogr on December 24, 2008, 11:48:55 AM
The tail looks awful. I like the 05' much better, but I do like the new interior.
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Post by: V8Demon on December 24, 2008, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: BCA;248683
What is with the headlamp assemblies on this Grabber Blue car?
The turn signals and headlights are reversed compared to every other 2010 car I have seen pictures of.
HID's ;)
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: jcassity on December 24, 2008, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;243653
The new motor doesn't come untill 2011.....
.
I think the 4.6 is on the way out the door. The 5.0 4v coyote is a more cost effective fit for a quote unquote new motor.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: BCA on December 24, 2008, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;248690
HID's ;)
I'm glad I'm not in the market for one of these, I wouldn't know which way to go. I would want HID's but I don't like the look of the headlamp housing compared to the non-HID lamps. Then there is the whole V6 vs. GT styling thing. I would want a GT, but I think the V6 front end looks better (cleaner and less cluttered).
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: V8Demon on December 24, 2008, 02:04:21 PM
There's an aftermarket company that sells a kit for the 05's that moves the fog lamps to the lower section and uses smaller bulbs. I think it would look MUCH cleaner on the new version than what they currently show.
Perhaps something like the 05-09 v6 pony package foglamps in the lower with the v6 upper grille.
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I think the 4.6 is on the way out the door. The 5.0 4v coyote is a more cost effective fit for a quote unquote new motor.
There is speculation that the base GT will still get the 4.6 for '11 and that the 5.0 4v will be an "Heritage Edition" upgrade.
I was wondering how they would make an enthusiast pay more.....guess I know now...
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: vinnietbird on December 24, 2008, 02:40:40 PM
As far as Stangs go,I like the '67/'68 Shelby and the '04 Mach 1's the best.
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Post by: V8Demon on January 27, 2009, 02:23:30 PM
I forgive the tail lights on this one..... (http://www.listangs.com/forum/images/smilies/drooling.gif)
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: Chuck W on January 27, 2009, 02:34:44 PM
Now it looks like a catfish...
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Post by: V8Demon on January 27, 2009, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: Chuck W;253877
Now it looks like a catfish...
No no no, those are F-bodies :hick:
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: rancheronut on January 27, 2009, 05:31:23 PM
sorry ,the 2010 just don't impress me much.i will have to whit and see inperson. the 05 to 08 they where ok and the 2010 is more of the same but loosing the sportyness! but they are fixing the dash looks. so what?
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Post by: Ether947 on January 27, 2009, 05:45:22 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;253876
I forgive the tail lights on this one.....
x2 - I almost never like the new versions of the Stang and then that Cobra (yes, I know) always changes my mind.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on January 27, 2009, 06:50:18 PM
This thread is lacking of actual pictures of the GT500, there we go much better.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: rancheronut on January 27, 2009, 06:53:11 PM
if you say so? but it still just a ok car with much higher price tag!
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Post by: Ether947 on January 27, 2009, 07:56:03 PM
Quote from: 20th anny 5.o;253946
This thread is lacking of actual pictures of the GT500, there we go much better.
Those wheels are pretty sweet! I those much better than the current ones. Hopefully someone will put out some decent aftermarket tails.
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on January 27, 2009, 08:04:07 PM
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if you say so? but it still just a ok car with much higher price tag!
I think this is a little better than just "ok"...lol. GT500's are pretty freaking kick ass imho:burnout: .
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: HAVI on April 04, 2009, 11:03:17 AM
looks too plasticy (plaz-tick-ee) to me
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Post by: Ether947 on April 04, 2009, 11:05:49 AM
I actually kinda like it... minus the RED color and chrome wheels.
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Post by: cougarman on April 04, 2009, 12:13:30 PM
Quote from: Ether947;265792
I actually kinda like it... minus the RED color and chrome wheels.
+1 :burnout:
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Post by: RunninWild on April 04, 2009, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: shame302;243674
i like it. i like this ones interior more and im getting used to the look. some of the spy shots had me worried but these look okay. would have been nice if they did something with the engine for 10'
The engine for the '10 is the the same as the bullitt...315 horsepower I believe.
It's a shame that the 370 Z is faster....
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: jcassity on April 04, 2009, 03:16:49 PM
They keep this up and in a few more years it will look like a cross between a probe and a crx. Colegen(sp) injections perhaps?
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Post by: V8Demon on April 04, 2009, 06:26:22 PM
Quote from: RunninWild;265801
It's a shame that the 370 Z is faster....The engine for the '10 is the the same as the bullitt...315 horsepower I believe.
That's funny because I can't seem to find hard #'s....Only estimates and figures for pre-production cars. FWIW the 350 was at a disadvantage. Equal weight and less torque.
The guesstimates are equal to 05-09 #'s.... Don't forget the new Pony is to have 3.73's
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Post by: 86XR7project on April 04, 2009, 07:36:31 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;265826
Don't forget the new Pony is to have 3.73's
Only if equipped with the track package if my memory serves me correctly.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: V8Demon on April 04, 2009, 07:57:18 PM
Only fair to point it out... Besides.....2011 is what I'M waiting for..
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on April 04, 2009, 08:03:06 PM
There's a comparison between the 370Z, Mustang, and Hyundai Genesis Coupe in the May Motor Trend. The Z is fastest, but the Mustang wins the comparison. The funny thing is that it wasn't a direct comparo - Ford made MT promise not to do a back-to-back comparison with the Genesis. They were actually afraid of it. Absolutely shameful. The Mustang beat the Genesis in nearly every category - what's shameful is Ford's lack of faith in its own product.
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Post by: V8Demon on April 04, 2009, 08:25:46 PM
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Ford made MT promise not to do a back-to-back comparison with the Genesis.
I'm not surprised. Proof positive how advertising dollars can skew test results on matters of opinion....When the S-197 platform first came out the mags praised it. 18months later the cheap shots at the suspension came aplenty -- the same suspension they praised for working so well in spite of the dated architecture.
FWIW Motor Trend and C&D have problems getting decent times out of ANY car with a decent amount of torque below 4000 RPM without AWD/4WD. Always with the wheelspin off the line is the excuse.
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Post by: Ether947 on April 04, 2009, 08:52:01 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;265848
There's a comparison between the 370Z, Mustang, and Hyundai Genesis Coupe in the May Motor Trend. The Z is fastest, but the Mustang wins the comparison. The funny thing is that it wasn't a direct comparo - Ford made MT promise not to do a back-to-back comparison with the Genesis. They were actually afraid of it. Absolutely shameful. The Mustang beat the Genesis in nearly every category - what's shameful is Ford's lack of faith in its own product.
You mean dis one? I was a little disappointed as well. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0905_hyundai_genesis_coupe_mustang_fighter_or_cut_price_nissan_370z/index.html
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Given that Mulally told the universe that Ford's products are essentially world class, you'd think his employees in public relations would buy into what he's selling. If they did, they'd have gladly given us that pipeline's first potent product, the 2010 Mustang GT, for a head-to-head test with Hyundai's Genesis Coupe. But they didn't. "If the Mustang wins," said a Ford PR flack at one point during the tortuous back-and-forth negotiations, "it's still the king. If the Genesis wins, we've only made a hero out of a Korean upstart."
In order to get our hands on a Mustang GT in time to meet the deadline for the April issue of Motor Trend, we had to agree not to do a back-to-back comparison with Korea's new colt. Normally, we would've told Ford to take a hike up the Himalayas. But, in the interest of getting the first test numbers on the new Mustang, we acquiesced. For Ford, it's a shame we did.
Speaking of the PR Dept. They still haven't given me the go/no-go on the brand use license. I suppose they do have more important things on their minds right now. ;)
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on April 04, 2009, 10:17:40 PM
Hey maybe they knew that the pathetic Genesis wasn't a worthy competitor. They mention Ford would have a car ready to compare with the forthcoming Camaro...which is definatley stouter competition than a wanna-be Korean tin can.
I am not impressed with then Genericsis at all...typical Hyundai. No personality.
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Post by: 86XR7project on April 04, 2009, 10:40:14 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;265845
Only fair to point it out... Besides.....2011 is what I'M waiting for..
Ecoboost?
Am I missing something?
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Post by: V8Demon on April 05, 2009, 07:26:19 AM
The rumored special edition 5.0 is slated to make it's appearance in '11.
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They mention Ford would have a car ready to compare with the forthcoming Camaro
See statement above quote ;)
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Post by: 86XR7project on April 05, 2009, 09:50:15 AM
Quote from: V8Demon;265905
The rumored special edition 5.0 is slated to make it's appearance in '11.
See statement above quote ;)
Oh yeah! Boss 302 maybe? I heard they'll be dropping the 6.2 Hurricane in it from the Raptor at some point too.
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Post by: oldraven on April 05, 2009, 04:44:09 PM
I'm one person who won't be brushing the Genesis Coupe off any time soon. Consider that their $26G top line V6 is making a whole 9hp less than the current Mustang, with a DOHC V8, and you can see why Ford was a bit scared. I bet the weight difference would have put the numbers pretty close. I have that issue, but haven't had the time to read the article yet. Anyway, this is their first attempt at a RWD sports coupe. If they're even close, their second try might be the ticket.
I don't think you'll see a V6 ecoboost Mustang any time soon. That has power that trumps the 4.6, with much better fuel economy, and I don't see Ford sacrificing the V8 in the Mustang any quicker than Chevy would for their Corvette. We may see the current dog of a V6 model phased out for an ecoboost 4, though. People are getting this nostalgic idea about the SVO now, so it might even be a really successful model.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 86XR7project on April 05, 2009, 05:12:29 PM
Quote from: oldraven;265953
I'm one person who won't be brushing the Genesis Coupe off any time soon. Consider that their $26G top line V6 is making a whole 9hp less than the current Mustang, with a DOHC V8
The Genisis coupe only comes with a V6 and a turbo 4 cyl. Sounds like the turbo 4 is the one to mod.
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Post by: cougarman on April 05, 2009, 05:30:50 PM
The Mustang is supposed to get the Ecoboost V8 in 2011 or 2012.:burnout:
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Post by: 86XR7project on April 05, 2009, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: cougarman;265959
The Mustang is supposed to get the Ecoboost V8 in 2011 or 2012.:burnout:
This would be awesome! Now I was under the impression the V6 was going to be replaced with a V6 DI Ecoboost but this could be much better.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: V8Demon on April 05, 2009, 06:50:16 PM
Quote from: oldraven;265953
I'm one person who won't be brushing the Genesis Coupe off any time soon. Consider that their $26G top line V6 is making a whole 9hp less than the current Mustang, with a DOHC V8
1. The 4.6 3V is NOT a DOHC. 2. I somehow doubt that v6 has the torque spread of the 3V, one of the shining attributes of that motor and a defining factor pf a ponycar/muscle car IMHO.
Quote from: oldraven;265953
I don't think you'll see a V6 ecoboost Mustang any time soon. That has power that trumps the 4.6, with much better fuel economy, and I don't see Ford sacrificing the V8 in the Mustang any quicker than Chevy would for their Corvette. We may see the current dog of a V6 model phased out for an ecoboost 4, though. People are getting this nostalgic idea about the SVO now, so it might even be a really successful model.
Truthfully, I don't see the 4.6 hanging around at all in the Stang for too much longer. The 3V was exactly what was needed.....in 2001. It was a bit late to the party, but such has been the way with the mod motor. I've heard the 5.0 will get direct injection albeit not at the initial release. Hopefully it does come at the motors inception.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-coyote-v8.html
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: oldraven on April 06, 2009, 06:25:52 AM
Quote from: 86XR7project;265956
The Genisis coupe only comes with a V6 and a turbo 4 cyl. Sounds like the turbo 4 is the one to mod.
I know, I was talking about the DOHC V8 in the Mustang ("Consider that their $26G top line V6 is making a whole 9hp less..."). I guess my sentence structure went to pieces there. I'll take my lumps for the DOHC vs. OHC bit though. ;) You're no doubt right about the torque too, Demon.
The only way the Genesis is going after the Mustang is on price point. The car is more directly competing with the 370Z and RX-8. Import Sport never really has gone after Domestic Muscle. My point was that it's an impressive first crack at a RWD Sports Coupe, and their second generation might close the gap quite a bit.
And Ecoboost V8? Does anyone have any links to this info? I haven't heard a word about a turbocharged V8 coming from Ford. I'd be surprised to even see the Ecoboost V6 in there. If we did, people would be skipping the GT altogether, with the Shelby as the only Mustang above the TT V6 with a performance advantage. Ford is pretty well known for protecting the Mustang and what it stands for, even if that means sacrificing performance to keep a N/A V8 under the hood.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 86XR7project on April 06, 2009, 08:56:09 AM
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I know, I was talking about the DOHC V8 in the Mustang
I'll basically say what has been said before. No Mustang in the S197's has a DOHC V8 right now. Only the Shelby and thats way out of the Genisis price play ground. The old Fox4 Corbras had a twin cam V8 but thats used.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: oldraven on April 06, 2009, 10:18:51 AM
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I'll basically say what has been said before. No Mustang in the S197's has a DOHC V8 right now. Only the Shelby and thats way out of the Genisis price play ground. The old Fox4 Corbras had a twin cam V8 but thats used.
I'll basically say what I did in my last post. Re-read my post.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 86XR7project on April 06, 2009, 10:35:31 AM
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I'll basically say what I did in my last post. Re-read my post.
Genisis Coupe doesn't either. Read post #79.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: oldraven on April 07, 2009, 07:07:48 AM
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Genisis Coupe doesn't either. Read post #79.
Doesn't what? Have a V8? No shiznit. I never said it did. Fack! Read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: V8Demon on April 07, 2009, 07:25:00 AM
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Doesn't what? Have a V8? I never said it did.
+1
Reading Fail. :toilet:
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 86XR7project on April 07, 2009, 09:34:34 AM
I just got confused by your DOHC V8 comment. The Genesis Sedan had a Tau DOHC 4.6 V8. No need to get irritated just a little miscommunication.
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Post by: oldraven on April 07, 2009, 10:30:02 AM
Well, it wasn't my first time being misread in this thread, and explaining the same thing was getting irritating. No worries, though. I do admit I screwed up on the number of cams in a Mustang GT. I honestly thought all 4.6's were Dual after '05. It's easy to see I'm not a Mustang guy. :D
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 86XR7project on April 07, 2009, 10:41:11 AM
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Well, it wasn't my first time being misread in this thread, and explaining the same thing was getting irritating. No worries, though. I do admit I screwed up on the number of cams in a Mustang GT. I honestly thought all 4.6's were Dual after '05. It's easy to see I'm not a Mustang guy. :D
Okay, yeah I gotcha. Its okay I thought I was out of my mind here when I was reading the Mustang had a DOHC. I worked at a Ford dealership for a long while and was confused by that. I didn't know if you had known the Genesis Coupe didn't get the Tau V8 so I threw that out there. I apologize for the mix up.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: oldraven on April 07, 2009, 01:13:45 PM
No problem, man. Though they should have thrown the Tau in there anyway. Maybe there'll be a V8 version in a few years. I wouldn't put that out of the realm of possibility.
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Post by: 86XR7project on April 07, 2009, 02:14:25 PM
That WOULD be cool for Hyundai. If only it looked a bit more masculine.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 50tbrd88 on April 07, 2009, 06:15:39 PM
I wonder why didn't they just put that Tau V8 in there in the first place and be done with it? Cost?
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Post by: V8Demon on April 07, 2009, 06:27:01 PM
I believe it was a packaging issue....Couldn't get it to fit. Much like with the 5.0 in the MN-12's in '89-90.
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Post by: 50tbrd88 on April 07, 2009, 07:15:22 PM
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I believe it was a packaging issue....Couldn't get it to fit. Much like with the 5.0 in the MN-12's in '89-90.
Ahhh I see. That would be a fast car...isn't their V8 rockin' like 370 hp or something? Ahh well its still a freakin' ugly Hyundai.
Title: Well - They finally spilled the beans - 2010 'Stang
Post by: 86XR7project on April 07, 2009, 07:20:07 PM
Looks like the Tau 4.6 V8 has 375 HP and 333lb.-ft. of torque. Would really make it interesting for a car that'd make you look a bit limp wristed.
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Post by: oldraven on April 07, 2009, 09:29:57 PM
I'm sure someone will find a way to get one in there soon enough. Tuners or tuner shop.