General => User Rides => Topic started by: daboss351 on November 02, 2008, 01:23:51 PM
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 02, 2008, 01:23:51 PM
Well I brought home my newest addition friday! 700 cash got me a 1990 lincoln Mark VII LSC(that I can register), included are 4 low mile bridgestone potenza tires on the car, and a trunk loaded with a ford racing aluminum radiator, full set of control arms, full set of poly bushings(front and rear control arms, swaybar mounts and end links), set of rubber front control arm bushings, set moog sway bar end links, misc. computers, set of ride height sensors, and its all stock(and rear end is worn, only does peg leg). It has 97k on it, paint is florida baked as well as dash and seats, car needs rear quarters, and a bit of body work but its mostly solid(underside is not rotted). Inside is trashed but it runs and drives great!
Now the bad: Anyone know ANYTHING about an old school kill switch set up by a company named Chapman security systems? There was no key for it to be given to me so I was gonna remove it and hide it in the dash were it couldnt be pressed untill my buddy got in and hit it with his knee. Now the car doesn't start... Today Im gonna start removing the interior and gonna look up under the dash and see were it goes and maybe I can trace the wires and remove it.
and a question: Next what is the easiest way to install poly bushings?? I spent all last night cleaning the rubber out of the bushing cups, and lubed up the small one and i barely got it in a 1/4 of the way. Anyone got some tips? I wanna get both front arms prepped, bushings installed, and ready because when I install my good front bags im gonna put in my KYB struts, my spindles with drilled rotors, and my turbo coupe sway bar since I made out and got a set of control arms and every poly bushing I need.
There will be pics of every new part, and every step of the way. Thanks for the help and the hints I leave you with are it will no longer be red on red, and boring stock lincoln looking, I promise that much. And my buddy is getting my ROH ZS wheels stripped and powdercoated for free, so he says. We will see. First pics come later! I'll check in for info soon! Now I need to get to work!!
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 02, 2008, 02:06:58 PM
well chapman is still in business and whats in my car is called a chapman "Kar-Lok", but wouldnt you know there is NO INFO anywere about this god forsaken contraption!!
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Post by: ZondaC12 on November 02, 2008, 02:45:39 PM
Yea I'd either find what it hooks into and bypass it or break the thing open and go from there :hick:
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Post by: daminc on November 02, 2008, 04:18:19 PM
I'm sure it would wire in before the ignition, possibly into a connector like the one that kept my car from starting.
This is the one that kept my car from starting, that I'm going to wire into a kill switch. I believe it connects the starter and the solenoid to the ignition switch. This one is located just behind the console on the drivers side. (http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee79/daminc/IMG_3629.jpg)
Hope it gives you a clue on what to look for.
Can't wait to see the new pics.
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Post by: 5.0 tbird on November 02, 2008, 08:23:42 PM
Pics!
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Post by: daboss351 on November 02, 2008, 08:48:38 PM
Yep found the relay for it under hood, and all the shiznit wireing the person did to install it that tied into the starter solenoid and coil. Once I found it, 5 mins and it fired right up!! Had to cut out the hood lock that thankfully didnt work as well Installed my 65mm tb, 65 to 60mm egr spacer I made, new IAC, my CAI, 9mm ford racing wires, ngk plugs, accel cap and rotor, motorcraft oil and filter, and my nicely painted explorer intake plaque. All and all a good day. Have to pull the TB again and get a real gasket, its sucking in coolent. Pics coming tomorrow!! Swapping the flat black front clip on tomorrow, with new shagy fog lights, blacked out grill, and polished headlights
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Post by: thunderjet302 on November 07, 2008, 10:54:47 AM
:pics-stfu: ;)
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Post by: DVP on November 07, 2008, 01:00:44 PM
Quote from: thunderjet302;242038
:pics-stfu: ;)
:beatyoass:
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Post by: 5.0 tbird on November 07, 2008, 07:25:51 PM
picsorban
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Post by: SR71TC on November 08, 2008, 06:09:21 PM
Stick the bushings in the freeze over night.
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Post by: daminc on November 08, 2008, 08:23:00 PM
:ttiwwp: :pics-stfu:
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 10, 2008, 12:27:16 PM
today I swear!! Theres a BUNCH, because I got a shiznit load done to the car
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Post by: DVP on November 10, 2008, 01:50:02 PM
Quote from: daboss351;242458
today I swear!! Theres a BUNCH, because I got a shiznit load done to the car
:beatyoass:
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Post by: Vbelisle on November 10, 2008, 01:58:16 PM
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 12, 2008, 06:54:20 PM
Here you go!! all the updates from FvC i made about the car! More to come ;) ok ok these are some starters (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1103081509.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1101081753.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1102081156.jpg) I put some seafoam in the gas, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, oil change, and my CAI, o and a new IAC
next: Lost power one night and the outage fried my monitor, so thats why there has been no updates. I got a TON done on the car, mostly little , but step towards making it what I want it. Got the entire front clip off, and the whole front clip of the blue car, prepped and painted flat black and ready to go on. Lights are polished and ready to go, grill is painted and ready to go, as are foglights(need to find out why they dont work on this car either...). Pulled door panels, started replacing broken parts, fixed power door locks(car had no actuators), painted red parts black, painted dash cover black, just little things to make it looks better. O and its got its first cleaning in 3 years hahaha. The red isnt to bad when its clean! Also installed pioneer door speakers, and my old cars factory JBL 3 ways. Those things ROCK for 20 year old speakers!!! Still got a TON more work to do inside before I'm happy with it. Tomorrow the front clip and lights will go on, then its on to redoing the front end. New control arms with poly bushings, my old cars front bags and solenoids, my KYB's, T/C sway bar, and my drilled rotors and new wheel bearings. Should help handling ALOT, and keep the front end off the ground! Ordering a trac lok rebuild kit, and a full bearing, shim, and seal kit for the rear end in the blue car. Gonna have it redone and gonna install it with new control arms, poly bushings, and im getting a set of the spherical bushings from UPR. This way I have trac-lok for the winter, and the rear end is leaking anyway so it will be a very nice noticeable upgrade(I'm keeping the 3.27's)! 5 more days till the insurance is all set, and then its registering it and inspection!! So far everything is on schedule!
TONS of pics tomorrow!
last: pulled bumper shell today welded the bumper bolts solid so its easier to remove it, cut old fog light bolts out, welded in new ones, installed new fog lights, and installed bumper. toggled switch back and forth and WHOLA! Lights work!! For 20 dollar walmart lights, holy shiznit they are bright as HELL. Hung the front fender, gonna pull them off, reinstall the trims, and bolt them one, then bolt on the header and bumper fillers, lights and grill. Should look awesome!!
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 12, 2008, 07:04:41 PM
heres a starter more pics tomorrow, takes for ever to send all the pics from my cell (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1112081708.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1112081708a.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1112081600.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1112081600a.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1108081555.jpg)
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Post by: DVP on November 12, 2008, 07:34:32 PM
Bout time! LOL! I though it was a Mass air car? Guess not. We need more!
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 13, 2008, 11:28:26 AM
no such thing as a mass air mark 7. They never changed to mass air like they did on stangs. from 86 i think till 92 its 5.0 HO SD. More pics will come as I do more work haha Front clip gets installed today i hope.
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Post by: DVP on November 13, 2008, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: daboss351;242875
no such thing as a mass air mark 7. They never changed to mass air like they did on stangs. from 86 i think till 92 its 5.0 HO SD. More pics will come as I do more work haha Front clip gets installed today i hope.
Yeah I never knew. Looks good so far though. I cant wait to tear into the SHO
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Post by: thunderjet302 on November 13, 2008, 05:01:50 PM
So you got a red one eh? ;)
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Post by: daboss351 on November 14, 2008, 10:59:20 AM
its not all red anymore ;) TONS of pics from last night, and i've found issues now. Need motor mounts, and trans mount to hopefully get rid of a vibration, the rear end HAS to be done ASAP, SUCKS in rain spins up one tire WAYYY to easy, clutch fan needs to go bye bye, and I need my exhaust lol.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 16, 2008, 05:52:33 PM
who wants picsss?
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Post by: daboss351 on November 16, 2008, 06:07:02 PM
Enough teaseing you guys. Here you go you pic ws: (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1113081755.jpg) How I drove it to my grandparents to work on it(rode my buddys ass on backroads)
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1113081756.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1113081756a.jpg) Some better pics of the body
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1113081756b.jpg) New front fender
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1113081759.jpg) All new parts ready to go on.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1113081837.jpg) After I aligned the front fenders and bolted them in, they are not perfect, and I tripped over and bent the pass one a little, but they look good.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1113081940.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1113081940a.jpg) New fenders, header, grill, and lights.
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1114082242.jpg) My new Rockford Fosgate CD player.
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Post by: daminc on November 16, 2008, 07:05:31 PM
This one looks like it's in better shape at least. You know we're gonna need more pics, right?
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Post by: 5.0 tbird on November 16, 2008, 07:14:32 PM
Looking good Mason, but we need :D
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Post by: vinnietbird on November 16, 2008, 07:52:34 PM
Nice looking car. Congrats !!! You should have a litle easier time on this with all you learned from the other one.LOL.
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Post by: 32VFoxBird on November 16, 2008, 09:18:15 PM
if i send you a REAL camera, will you use it?
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Post by: daboss351 on November 17, 2008, 12:24:26 AM
Quote from: 32VFoxBird;243362
if i send you a REAL camera, will you use it?
gladly you know how much of a PITA it is to get all these pics on here! I have to send each one separate by my cell to my email, then upload to photobucket. Took me a hour to get all those pics up. I have a digital camera but it rarely works anymore, and someone stole my memory card....
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Post by: daboss351 on November 17, 2008, 12:29:42 AM
Quote from: vinnietbird;243350
Nice looking car. Congrats !!! You should have a litle easier time on this with all you learned from the other one.LOL.
O trust me it is. That front clip took me all of a hour and a half to install. Its redundant as hell, but shiznit its SOOO much better the second time around, with a better car to start with. It has PLENTLY of annoying issues though... Mostly the transmission right now...
Quote from: 5.0 bird;243335
Looking good Mason, but we need :D
They are coming. Forgive me its so time consuming to send all the pics off my cell, plus they suck anyway.
Quote from: daminc;243333
This one looks like it's in better shape at least. You know we're gonna need more pics, right?
Its not bad. Body isnt as rotted, but it needs its fair share. Was a florida car so underneath is pretty friggen nice. Has a weird rattle/vibration when you punch it, and it sounds pretty bad. Trans doesnt like going into reverse, and it shifts into 3rd at WOT with a horrific chatter. I have to recipt for the rebuild the trans had too. EVERYTHING was done, and it has had fluid changes and flushes periodically. I will iron all the probs out eventually. Right now i'm making the inside nice for the ladies ;)
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Post by: daboss351 on November 17, 2008, 08:38:30 PM
its LOUD now unhooked the H pipe for its first day as a registered car registering it bright and early tomorrow!! wish me luck! burnout pics will come
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Post by: 32VFoxBird on November 17, 2008, 10:10:52 PM
why did you "unhook" the h-pipe?
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Post by: daboss351 on November 17, 2008, 10:24:20 PM
has stock replacement sucky lers and tail pipes so i unhooked them so it actually sounds like its running
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Post by: daboss351 on November 17, 2008, 10:38:09 PM
http://www.westcoastlincolns.net/forum/showthread.php?t=333 bad ass mk7
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Post by: 5.0 tbird on November 17, 2008, 11:29:57 PM
Well at least you didn't disconnect the h-pipe from the headers. It kind of sounded like you did that.
Quote from: daboss351;243569
http://www.westcoastlincolns.net/forum/showthread.php?t=333 bad ass mk7
I'm the one that spent 45 minutes scanning that in btw. :giggle:
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Post by: DVP on November 18, 2008, 01:32:47 AM
Whats infront of the Buick? Looks good... Now we need more. If you could send more than one pic in a pic message to a phone you could send them to my phone and I can load them straight on Photobucket from there.
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Post by: daboss351 on November 18, 2008, 04:25:57 PM
haha 54 chevy delray need to get the AOD shifting right...... and idle down but shes registered
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Post by: daboss351 on November 19, 2008, 08:09:48 PM
I can not get this stupid car to idle lower!! it stays at around 1-1200k in park, 850-900 in drive its g me off, car is sucking gas down at red lights and such other then that its averaging 13.4 around town
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Post by: daminc on November 19, 2008, 08:19:39 PM
Bad temp sensors?
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Post by: massCougarxr7 on November 19, 2008, 08:44:47 PM
13mpg....jeeze you could go big block and still average the same....still looks cool and you gotta make a vid when shes done!
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Post by: daboss351 on November 19, 2008, 08:45:22 PM
only done it since I swaped tb and egr spacer
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Post by: 32VFoxBird on November 19, 2008, 08:59:04 PM
swap it back
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Post by: daminc on November 19, 2008, 09:00:06 PM
any codes?
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Post by: daboss351 on November 19, 2008, 09:16:07 PM
not sure since I swapped parts it eliminated the check engine light(egr related) I really dont wanna swap back, because I know im not the only one running a explorer TB so its got to be something else... Its a BRAND NEW IAC as well, and i have another brand new one in a box... car runs GREAT, and has NICE top end power, and spins off the line(never did when I bought it). Its just this stupid idle..... How do you set the TPS??
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Post by: daminc on November 19, 2008, 09:38:55 PM
Swap it back just to see if it goes away
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Post by: daboss351 on November 19, 2008, 09:40:54 PM
gah that involves a lot of work, and using a crusty old tb and egr spacer... I got to reset the comp and a few other things and then i just might have to...
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Post by: 32VFoxBird on November 19, 2008, 09:42:07 PM
just swap the t/b back. be sure to use new gaskets though.
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Post by: daboss351 on November 19, 2008, 09:44:34 PM
Quote from: 32VFoxBird;243951
just swap the t/b back. be sure to use new gaskets though.
I only have one gasket on the whole thing, used high temp silicone on the rest. EGR is port matched to the 65mm tb so if i swaped one the both gotta go. I gotta tinker more... story of my life
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Post by: Turbo 88 on November 19, 2008, 10:10:26 PM
Quote from: daboss351;243933
only done it since I swaped tb and egr spacer
I think I'd try swapping them back one at a time to see if the problem is corrected. If so, then put the replacements back one at a time to see which is the cause.
you might have thought of that already
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Post by: Clayton on November 19, 2008, 10:34:18 PM
someones got a vaccume leak
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Post by: Turbo 88 on November 19, 2008, 10:52:58 PM
guess we all thought about the same thing at the same time huh
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Post by: V8Demon on November 20, 2008, 12:03:43 PM
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since I swapped parts it eliminated the check engine light(egr related) I really dont wanna swap back, because I know im not the only one running a explorer TB so its got to be something else
Post a few DETAILED HI-RES pics of the Explorer TB hooked up to your setup, please.
FWIW I'd leave it. Why?
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someones got a vaccume leak
Very good chance of that.
Get a vacuum guage and check this out: http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,3020.0.html
Before you even do that, disconnect the EVP sensor and EGR vacuum line(and plug/cap the line). What happens?
Let us know.
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Post by: daboss351 on November 20, 2008, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;243963
someones got a vaccume leak
idk it never did it before when I bought it it idles soild 1350-1400 in park....
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Post by: daboss351 on November 20, 2008, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: V8Demon;244002
Post a few DETAILED HI-RES pics of the Explorer TB hooked up to your setup, please.
FWIW I'd leave it. Why?
Very good chance of that.
Get a vacuum guage and check this out: http://sbftech.com/index.php/topic,3020.0.html
Before you even do that, disconnect the EVP sensor and EGR vacuum line(and plug/cap the line). What happens?
Let us know.
EVP?? Ill try that and see what it does. high res pics ill try I swaped the throttle arm, welded the new one on, rotated the vacuum port, and cleaned it out.
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Post by: V8Demon on November 20, 2008, 12:11:25 PM
You swapped some stuff around.....Might have pinched a gasket/seal or cracked a vacuum line. You need to diagnose the situation.
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Post by: 32VFoxBird on November 20, 2008, 01:35:19 PM
or you can spray carb cleaner around the gaskets, and see if the idle changes.
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Post by: daboss351 on November 20, 2008, 03:18:07 PM
whats the evp?
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Post by: thunderjet302 on November 20, 2008, 03:26:03 PM
If you find no vacuum leaks:
1. Use a gasket between the TB and EGR spacer as well as the EGR spacer and Manifold. It will leak either air or coolant into the intake track.
2. Is the gasket between the IAC and TB good?
3. Rest the idle with the screw under the throttle body. Check the voltage at the TPS. As long as it's above .5 volts with the throttle closed and above 3.5 volts at WOT you're fine. Then disconnect the negative battery cable for at least 15 minutes to reset the computer. Start car and let it relearn the idle.
Your car should be fine with just a 65mm TB. Before I swapped to MAF I ran my combo on a '89 Mark VII LSC SD computer with virtually no problems.
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Post by: daboss351 on November 20, 2008, 04:12:18 PM
freaky i fixed the dash ground so now my gauges work with the lights on idle is perfect now, and turns out my gas gauge read over half a tank ABOVE what was in it... I had a little over a half, turns out i had a 1/8 left.....
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Post by: 32VFoxBird on November 20, 2008, 05:42:04 PM
what fixed the idle issue?
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Post by: daboss351 on November 20, 2008, 08:47:24 PM
the ground wire DID for about 3 times i started and ran the car now the idle is back up, but sometimes goes down to 850-900 in park and my rear end is coming apart..... time for switching...
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Post by: daboss351 on November 20, 2008, 08:52:45 PM
tomorrow im gonna try spraying carb cleaner on the joints and see if ones leaking. shouldnt be I just put on a new gasket because it was sucking coolent, but who knows. Then i will plug the egr vac port, and unplug the sensor on it(thats the EVP correct?) and see what that does. If I get no results then I will try my old TPS, and the gasket on the IAC is BRAND NEW, came with the car, I had to brand new IAC's in the trunk in boxes with gaskets.
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Post by: Turbo 88 on November 20, 2008, 09:46:50 PM
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the ground wire DID for about 3 times i started and ran the car now the idle is back up, but sometimes goes down to 850-900 in park and my rear end is coming apart..... time for switching...
Your rear end is coming apart? Switching?
My TC has a extra ground cable running from the battery to the intake. Not sure why, but the P.O. seemed to think it was necessary. If the gauges need an extra ground cause Ford in it's infinite wisdom didn't provide one good enough to begin with, then maybe yours need one on the motor too.
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Post by: daboss351 on November 21, 2008, 10:57:31 AM
Quote from: Turbo 88;244083
Your rear end is coming apart? Switching?
My TC has a extra ground cable running from the battery to the intake. Not sure why, but the P.O. seemed to think it was necessary. If the gauges need an extra ground cause Ford in it's infinite wisdom didn't provide one good enough to begin with, then maybe yours need one on the motor too.
Yea if you take a courner about like 20 the rear end clunks and pops.... need to take the rear end out of my 88 and swap it into the 90..... my car has enough grounds.... the gauges have a ground mostly for the fuel gauge when i grounded it first time, the half to the gauges was grounded, but the other half teh wire feel off, everything worked but the gas gauge. hooked them all up again started the car and they all worked..... its weird.... car NEEDS my new brakes too, they SUCK and one rotor has a warp i can feel the pedel pulsing, o and the check suspension light comes on and off and now the pass bag drops almost every time i shut off the car....
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Post by: Turbo 88 on November 21, 2008, 12:40:09 PM
Other than that, it's in perfect shape huh....:D
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Post by: thunderjet302 on November 21, 2008, 12:42:03 PM
Just wondering but how's the ignition switch? It *could* cause some of your funky ground trouble.
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Post by: daboss351 on November 22, 2008, 04:00:47 PM
It was the IAC computer needed to reset. Unhooked the battery, swapped in my new one, let it relearn the idle and perfect!!! re hooked up the exhaust so its quiet, and now the front air ride finally went poof
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Post by: V8Demon on November 22, 2008, 08:03:13 PM
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and now the front air ride finally went poof
No worries.....you can find that stuff fairly cheap nowadays.
EVP = EGR Valve Postion sensor
http://fordfuelinjection.com/?p=35
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Post by: daboss351 on November 22, 2008, 10:59:02 PM
i got a 88 whole car left swaping in new control arms with poly bushings, my spindles with new rotors, my kyb's, my old air bags/soliniods, and new calipers. Along with a turbo coupe front sway bar. Should handle and stop soo much better.
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Post by: 32VFoxBird on November 23, 2008, 10:17:06 AM
since when is motorcraft oil, filter, and a new IAC a mod? :/
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Post by: daboss351 on November 23, 2008, 10:51:44 AM
Quote from: 32VFoxBird;244398
since when is motorcraft oil, filter, and a new IAC a mod? :/
... idk I just listed what I had done to it
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Post by: daboss351 on November 23, 2008, 12:19:59 PM
got the full spindle assembly almost out of the blue car, then got to clean them up, grand them and the sway bar and head out to my grandparents to do the front end swap!!
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Post by: daboss351 on November 23, 2008, 11:40:11 PM
stupid car is the biggest stupid PAIN IN MY ASS ****ing passenger side bag mount is completely rotted to shiznit, and the drivers ball joint would come out so its all screwed to shiznit. Got the turbo coupe sway bar in, with new bushings, one new spindle with kyb in, and one new endlink in. Need to put in new ball joint tomorrow and finish brake/suspension upgrade.... god i ave the best friggen luck I swear
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Post by: vinnietbird on November 24, 2008, 12:03:00 AM
Can't you bolt in the Turbo Coupe K-Member and do away with the air bags?
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Clayton on November 24, 2008, 12:09:30 AM
Feel lucky that you have luck at all. It could be worse, you couldn't have a car at all ya know? Good luck, bad luck... luck is luck. You have an 19 year old car... theres bound to be some problems along the way.
Im glad I grew up with no money, I had to learn how to fix things with what I had layin around. If it was broken I'd fix it.
Quit complaining about rusty bolts and busted knuckles and rotted parts and get the thing done man.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 24, 2008, 12:32:33 PM
Yea I thought about it last night shiznit happens got to do what I got to do. Im gonna make a plate and weld it in the bag mount and see if i can repair it. It sucks but I gotta rig something I COULD use a t/c k member and springs but screw that I LOVE my air ride.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 25, 2008, 05:40:29 PM
got it all in need to build the new air bag perch i hear it banging around needs ball joints and the new control arms with poly bushings. Brakes are 100% better, and it has SOOOOO much less body roll now I LOVE it. Needs more work and subframe connectors and ill be happier with it. Getting a custom kit put together for my AOD build, should be one STOUT trans. and Hopefully rebuilding the rear soon cause I cant STAND one tire fires
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 27, 2008, 03:19:16 PM
Got some metal Gonna fab up a nice plate for the bag and fix that. Gonna go price out new ball joints and other odds and ends in a bit so I can finish up the front(for now). Gotta finish installing the poly bushings and prepping the arms for install. Car has been running great, got 25mpg on the highway yesturday at 75-80, im very pleased with it so far!
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: vinnietbird on November 27, 2008, 03:29:56 PM
Can you take those needed parts from the other Mark VII,like the lower a frames with those ball joints,etc.?
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 27, 2008, 03:44:41 PM
I have a complete set of control arms that came with the car that I have already started cleaning and installing the bushings into. Ball joints in them are not great, and the ball joints on the blue car are not much better.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: rancheronut on November 27, 2008, 03:46:09 PM
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;244505
Im glad I grew up with no money, I had to learn how to fix things with what I had layin around. If it was broken I'd fix it.
Quit complaining about rusty bolts and busted knuckles and rotted parts and get the thing done man.[/QUOTE
boy i'm with you there:punchballs: ! i live in a state where there little than 400,000 of us fool's that live here in the forth biggest state in the union. i was raised ,you had to fix what you have. there was no aftermarket stuff or internet to order from. when you have to think how to fix something,thats where the mind grows.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Romeo2k on November 28, 2008, 12:05:44 AM
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;244505
Im glad I grew up with no money, I had to learn how to fix things with what I had layin around. If it was broken I'd fix it.
Quit complaining about rusty bolts and busted knuckles and rotted parts and get the thing done man.
I'm still living like that. :hick:
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: DVP on November 28, 2008, 03:55:22 AM
I think you have more respect when you have to pay for everything yourself and know the value of a dollar. Its more than just repeting your car because it YOURS and is YOUR money, I think it effects the respect you have for everyone nd everything also. I dont care if I become a millionaire. My kids will work and buy their own cars. Im glad I had to.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: vinnietbird on November 28, 2008, 06:38:56 PM
I understand.I've built my entire car with NO money from our paychecks.It's been a wicked challenge,but it's been worth it.Now I'm selling some car parts and model kits on Ebay to regain my paint money back.Getting close.$135.00 in 48 hours so far.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: ZondaC12 on November 28, 2008, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: Romeo2k;245070
I'm still living like that. :hick:
I'd like to think, (I'm sure we ALL would like to think about ourselves)...that I could grow up as a rich kid, with my parents the same, that the money itself not get to my head. I think if my parents still didn't wait on me hand and foot and teach me not to have my hand out, it would make a difference...but it's still there. I think I'd be a much different person. Someone who I wouldn't like if I saw them on the street from the outside looking in.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: 32VFoxBird on November 28, 2008, 08:37:42 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;245176
I understand.I've built my entire car with NO money from our paychecks.It's been a wicked challenge,but it's been worth it.Now I'm selling some car parts and model kits on Ebay to regain my paint money back.Getting close.$135.00 in 48 hours so far.
how did you acquire the parts you sell then? :mullet:
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: vinnietbird on November 28, 2008, 08:54:23 PM
I'll spend say...$30 or $40 on a bunch of parts.Sell them all.The first $30.00 I make goes back to the bank account from which it came,the rest is my profit for the Sport.A lot of parts I had came from my old Bird,and the Bird i got my doors and front fenders from.The guy told me I could have anything I wanted from the '88 LX (except the engine and tranny) if I'd put a heater core in his '93 Stang....DEAL !!! That made some good money.The engine harness,lights,switches,etc.I picked up 3 sets of 19# injectors,two Crown Vic Mass Air meters/sensors,3 or 4 '87/'88 T-Bird right side tail light lenses,Mark VII seat controls (from the doors),'85 or '86 T-Bird 1/4 windows and trim,a bunch of '87/'88 dew wipes in awesome shape,2 or 3 hood to header panel seals,a 130 amp 3G alternator (just had it checked and got a print out stating A-OK)and a few other parts for $35.00.That all will be sold and whatever comes of it will go towards the Sport.I just ordered a couple of FPV (Ford Performance Vehicles) parts from Australia and that was paid for like everything has been,from selling parts.If I'd taken money from the bank accounts we have,I'd have been finished a long time ago,but,18 months later,here I am,still working on it.Almost done,but not quite.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: 32VFoxBird on November 28, 2008, 08:59:07 PM
well, you certainly deserve it. i personally wouldnt go through all that time scouring junkards or buying parts online to sell them.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: rancheronut on November 28, 2008, 11:17:53 PM
Quote from: 32VFoxBird;245198
well, you certainly deserve it. i personally wouldnt go through all that time scouring junkards or buying parts online to sell them.
i all so buy wrecked cars/truck and part them out to make extra money for stuff i need or want on my fox body.;) :roxor: it a good way to learn how to plan your money with little elbow grease. well i was raise to make you own money and work on your own cars. then at one time i was retired from the work force and tired a couple of times to pay to have work done on couple of rigs. after i got them home. i alwise had to finish what they missed or better yet, had to redo it myself. i figure if i have to follow up on there bad work, then i can do it myself. at least i can mess it up like they did for less money.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: vinnietbird on November 28, 2008, 11:34:54 PM
I don't really devote but a few hours a month to the boneyards,and I won't do it unless I know I can make it worth the time and money.I won't spend 3 hours ata yard to make a few dollars.99% of the time,I am grabbing parts for myself as well when I'm at the yard.I picked up a 3.55 TC rear last year for super cheap.I'm just now getting around to doing something with it.Also,I really search Ebay and other places for bargains.I got my NOS lights super cheap,my NOS lock sets for the entire car with the TC keys.NOS fog lights and harness.A few really cool Australian parts.I bought a set of NOS Ford Falcon (Australian) hood twist locks like the '71 Mach 1,complete with mounting hardware.They may or may not go onto the Sport.Tough call.It all comes down to time and patience.I got the NOS 1/4 windows (Sport/TC style in black) for about 25% of what they're going for now.'04 Mach 1 front spoiler still in the Ford box for uber cheap.The Sport will really be a great car.It actually already is,but it'll also look the part.I still need the dynomat type sound deadener for the car,and window tint later.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: jangus on November 28, 2008, 11:53:24 PM
Originally Posted by 32VFoxBird well, you certainly deserve it. i personally wouldnt go through all that time scouring junkards or buying parts online to sell them.
I also like to go to the junkyard and pull parts to resell for car money. Actually teaching my two sons how to use there brains to make money where there didn't appear to be any. Absolute nessecity in our house, as money is tight. Hats off to anyone who can say they built there car without having to tap the budget.
Rancheronut, where in Montana are you? Spent six years there myself. Sure do miss it.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Jim_Miller on November 29, 2008, 02:22:12 AM
What on this page has to do with Masons Lincoln?
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: rancheronut on November 29, 2008, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: jangus;245258
Hats off to anyone who can say they built there car without having to tap the budget.
Rancheronut, where in Montana are you? Spent six years there myself. Sure do miss it.
i'm where the wind never stops, it just changes speed.(great falls) i have three cars that i'm building as parts come along and buying wrecked cars/truck and parting them out to make extra money and NOT using my pay checks.
(http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/599451/fullsize/great-pumpkin-003.jpg). this factory orange 1983 capri is completely been done to show our young kids how you can do it with used/traded/elbo grease. (http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/599454/fullsize/fh000007_edited.jpg)
(http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/600402/fullsize/84converta-006.jpg)i sold a complete 1994 black interior from fire wall to trunk floor just to use the money for 1986 front and rear bumpers for this car. (http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/600400/fullsize/1984-covertable-003.jpg)
the other car is casper my 1982 cougarxr7 (http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/650009/fullsize/dcp02280.jpg)
personal, i have more respect for some one that can scouring junkards parts and resells parts. than just pulling out a check book and pay for it done! because thats how we did in the 60's/70's/ 80's where there was no aftermarket world/internet/ hired car building shops. i have been in car clubs/car projects/car shows for the past 35+years. i also have been three ways in my life, from living pay check to pay check, to have more money than knowing what to do with , having nice income every month . using your brain to get parts or how to work on you own project is the only way to go! there nothing worst than going up to some one and asking about there ride and being told idon't know i got this car this way!:disappoin
as for; "What on this page has to do with Masons Lincoln"? :repost: :dunno: :laughing: :toilet:
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 30, 2008, 12:16:24 PM
lol hyjackkkkkk Car hasnt changed much, installed the 3g alt and somethings off, need to check it all over again....
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 30, 2008, 12:17:34 PM
and I guess I need to start figureing out Ebay, and get better on my speed shipping stuff and start selling my piles of parts.... My mom and grandparents are breathing down my neck to clean my "junk"...
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on November 30, 2008, 12:27:42 PM
OK so I put the 3G in the new car. Hooked A to A, I to I, and the black and orange up... No good, car dieing while driving. Amp light was coming on past 2k rpms. Only difference between the 88 and the 90 is the 90 has TWO yellow wires in the I spot on the plug from the old V/R.. So I hooked them both up to the I on the alternator. Im at a loss. Hooked the 4ga cable to a 130amp mega fuse, and to the right post on the starter soliniod like I did in the 88. I did forget to unhook the battery at first and the black w/orange stripe wire hit and sparked on a bracket. Did I fry something? Gonna check the fuse incase I broke it during install, and I broke the tab holding the S wire in, but its hooked up. So what could it be? Once again the colors dont match the colors on the harness I got, and now theres 2 yellow wires.... And Im suppose to hook up the black wire right?
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on December 01, 2008, 10:01:51 AM
Had it wired right my fuse cracked its all good now! Next step is swapping rear ends and exhaust with my new rear brakes
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on December 12, 2008, 10:56:27 AM
Yea and yeaturday after I got a letter from the dmv saying that I am gonna get my registration suspended because i didnt inspect it yet. So I go to get a inspection. Im on a side street as a truck is pulling in the street. So i pull out. The carbehind him crosses the yellow lines to pass the back of the truck and slams into the back of my car. Hit right after the drivers door, dented almost all the way up the the quarter window, I think it bent my rim, and pen 15ed the rear end because it vibrates from a stop now. I dont know the extent of the damage because the car is at the inspection station so I can prove that I was on the way to get it inspected. I fixed the brakes though, the drilled rotors and new pads make it stop great now! Didnt help me yesturday though..... O yea get this the car that hit me a little toyota corolla it was my principle
rear brakes came apart 2 days before, fixed them. Drilled rotors all four courners and new pads stops much better now, but doesnt drive good anymore
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Haystack on December 12, 2008, 09:10:06 PM
Sue em. Get insurance money for your car and buy a new one in better shape.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: ZondaC12 on December 12, 2008, 10:08:44 PM
Wow man stuff just aint workin out huh? :( I'm with haystack tho...you should totally try and find one that's more solid bumper to bumper so you're not worrying about fixing all kinds of bugs and kinks, especially that wants to prevent it from moving under its own power (ie bad rear end lol) :hick:
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Romeo2k on December 13, 2008, 01:47:00 AM
owch... Yea man, do what you can to get some money from the accident and look for another one. Just doesn't sound like this one was meant to be...
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Kitz Kat on December 13, 2008, 12:27:04 PM
"Yea and yeaturday after I got a letter from the dmv saying that I am gonna get my registration suspended because i didnt inspect it yet."
It must be alot different up there, how do they know if you did or not? Here in pa. you can register a car and never inspect it. As long as its on private property, and not sitting on the street. Now insurance is another thing.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on December 15, 2008, 12:28:09 PM
everything is in the computer inspection station sends info right to state when they inspect a car It sucks I was on the way to get the inspection so id be ok when I got hit so I have a document saying that date so I can prove I was trying to fix it before the accident so I dont get screwed out of insurance money. Idk if they are gonna fix it or total it State deemed the car worth 2,150 and I wont take a penny less
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on January 29, 2009, 12:33:05 PM
Hey everyone!! its been awhile.... Cars not fixed yet, still fighting. Got my exhaust in, system in, getting a 8.8 with 4.10's for 50 today, and this weekend, a complete 5 speed swap kit for bout 500. Then now that I have a job building the entire rear end(hopefully with insurance money) rear suspension, front suspension, gonna do EVERYTHING awesome. Ill give more updates from the fourm I frequent about my car since ive posted alot on there, I will put them on here.
Sorry ive been away for a long time!
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: vinnietbird on January 29, 2009, 01:19:34 PM
You've been cheating on us? I......I....I feel so violated.
I just want to take a shower.You've made me feel dirty.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Kitz Kat on January 29, 2009, 01:52:39 PM
Quote from: vinnietbird;254289
You've been cheating on us? I......I....I feel so violated.
I just want to take a shower.You've made me feel dirty.
You probably are dirty. from being in the bone yards.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: vinnietbird on January 29, 2009, 01:59:03 PM
That IS true.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: ZondaC12 on January 29, 2009, 02:28:26 PM
I too feel abandoned, Mason. :(
You are officially.....IN THE DOGHOUSE!!!! :evilgrin: :rollin: jk man good to hear from ya
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on February 01, 2009, 10:27:48 PM
man never cheating!! they trade me lots of good parts though!! got a mark 8 electric fan, and some new air bag solinolds coming in the mail for some junk i had kicking around lets just say that mark 8 fan, is one of many things that are coming soon to the hoopty. it should be killer when shes done ;) your gonna just have to wait though, and see.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on February 03, 2009, 10:01:19 AM
Well my principles insurance company just called me and said that they wont be paying for my damages...... This sucks, my rear end is bent, its pen 15ED sideways(btw makes it SUCK in the snow, and left hand turns it SLIDS like nothing), the car bangs, rattles, squeeqs, and whistles. I'm going nuts now. I bought the car a MONTH before the accident and now its messed up. I cant afford this... Its bad enough im trying to afford tires, now I need to get the frame checked, and rebuild the rear suspension, swap in my 88 rear end, etc....... PLUS, i took a courner too fast last night, slid in the water, almost ped my pants, held it and straightened out and got pulled over. Got ANOTHER ticket, for care starting from stop... Im screwed... but its my own fault. I should have slowed down knowing it was a left turn and seeing it was wet. Might lose my license now for a little bit.. Gives me time to fix the car at least...
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on February 03, 2009, 10:02:07 AM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1212081540a.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1212081540.jpg) thats the pic of the dent, and the rim that I think is bent(i swaped it off the day after.
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Post by: daboss351 on February 03, 2009, 11:00:45 AM
Im letting the cat out the bag Future soon mods are as followed: 4.10 gears(bought them used with SUPER low miles, ford gear set) Complete 5 speed swap(buying soon) mark 8 electric fan U/D crank pulley Short belt, no smog pump Rebuild rear end, Boxed arms, poly bushings, ChuckW shock mounts, mustang fox shocks New front K member, Possibly GTC air bags, new control arms with poly bushings, and new ball joints, maybe koni struts Hawk brake pads New drilled&slotted rotors/calipers/hoses GT40 intake, 65mm TB and EGR/or 70mm TB and EGR and port intake Mac 1 5/8 shortys MSD cap/rotor/coil/wires NGK plugs BFG comp T/A tires 245/45/zr16
Of course this is gonna be over months, but 5 speed and rear end are ASAP. Tires are ASAP as well.
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Post by: 32VFoxBird on February 03, 2009, 11:20:51 AM
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Post by: daboss351 on February 05, 2009, 10:30:07 AM
why am I a dumbass? Getting the frame checked this week, and the BFG tires, and headers on sat. Headers are a package deal, so im re selling h pipe they come with to re coup some cash. Then once I sell my old motor and trans getting the 5 speed kit, its EVERYTHING, with new crossmember, poly bushing, new clutch, and trans has 70k on it Im getting excited!
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on February 05, 2009, 10:59:34 AM
Yea if the frame is messed up im getting a lawyer and going after insurance company to fix or pay for the car.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Kitz Kat on February 05, 2009, 05:49:28 PM
They need to pull your license, sounds to me you don't drive all that good. You can't handle what you got now, don't make it faster. Do they take your stuff from you up there for being stubid? Think what your doing!
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: ZondaC12 on February 05, 2009, 06:40:37 PM
Seriously Mason, there is really (and I should even go so far as to say has been) a pattern of events/actions that seem really irresponsible and careless. Now Im HARDLY one to talk, I've done more than my share of dopey stuff, but come on man. You admitted it yourself..sounds like you hit a turn, wet road, slid into a barrier or something? I mean, I drive too fast thats for sure, but when conditions are inclement, even, just rain, I stick to them white signs. If that.
Also the pen 15ed rear end...I mean you really need to be driving something that's roadworthy. Worn shocks? Okay. Dinged up body? Obviously. Rear end thats pointing the wrong way?........
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: DVP on February 05, 2009, 09:34:33 PM
Quote from: daboss351;255054
PLUS, i took a courner too fast last night, slid in the water, almost ped my pants, held it and straightened out and got pulled over. Got ANOTHER ticket, for care starting from stop... Im screwed... but its my own fault. I should have slowed down knowing it was a left turn and seeing it was wet. Might lose my license now for a little bit.. Gives me time to fix the car at least...
He does admit fault. Ill give him that. You know you are driving a car that is not that safe with the rear end all screwed (which might just be an axle but I can tell anything from body shots) and you KNEW the ground was wet and you KNEW how fast you where going. If they are anything like Missouri you will lose your license until you are 21 with the accident and the ticket if you dont get it fixed.
I am not trying to sound like an ass (I probably am though) but seriously man you just screwed yourself. If they are going to try and take your license i suggest this. You ell EVERYTHING you have EVERYTHING. Part the car or whatever and get the money for a lawyer. This something that no one wants to do but weigh it out really quick.
Sell everything and replace tangible items as time goes on.
or
Lose your license, pride, hurt you chances at getting jobs, have the stain on your record for years, have even more OUTRAGEOUS insurance IF anyone will even carry you after losing your license.
If I sound like and a**hole fine but take what I said into consideration. Dont waste time you dont have thinking about what to do. State doesnt give a about you or your situation and will show no pity when court comes around .
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Post by: Haystack on February 05, 2009, 09:58:13 PM
you can get insurance fine after losing your license. I paid $240 a month on a $110 car for 6 months, then I made my freinds drive.
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Post by: Clayton on February 05, 2009, 11:35:29 PM
get some better pics. if thats the extent of the damage your a panzy. it may have dented the outer parts doesnt look like it hit any vitals.might have pinched the torque box a little to make it squeek.
hang a string with a nut tied to it from the lip on the quarter panel on both sides... measure out from the disc to the string on both sides that will tell you roughly if your rear is pushed. and how far.
by the looks of that it should be fine. just needs pulled
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Post by: daboss351 on February 06, 2009, 12:12:23 PM
Quote from: ZondaC12;255445
Seriously Mason, there is really (and I should even go so far as to say has been) a pattern of events/actions that seem really irresponsible and careless. Now Im HARDLY one to talk, I've done more than my share of dopey stuff, but come on man. You admitted it yourself..sounds like you hit a turn, wet road, slid into a barrier or something? I mean, I drive too fast thats for sure, but when conditions are inclement, even, just rain, I stick to them white signs. If that.
Also the pen 15ed rear end...I mean you really need to be driving something that's roadworthy. Worn shocks? Okay. Dinged up body? Obviously. Rear end thats pointing the wrong way?........
It wasnt rain water The snow had been melting so it was dry, but not on that side of the turn. I was doing 30-35, and cut it to hard, my stupidity. I did not hit anything, i held it, and straightened out(doesnt help the tires are HORRIBLY hard and dryrotted. They are from the blue car). I am smartening up. I havnt been speeding, spinning tires that much, im backed off alot. Im buying all new tires, got new control arms, rear bushings, gears, gonna re do the whole back end. I have to drive it, the insurance wont fix it as of right now, and I need to get to work(its about 10-15 min drive from my house). Im gonna fix it over vacation I hope... Im trying guys I am... Its to expensive and bad to screw around. I had my fun, now I'm gonna save it for the track. Doing brakes, suspension, trans, and rear end before performance mods, and exterior and interior work. I Wish I could afford a new car, but I have to do what I have to do...
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on February 06, 2009, 12:16:50 PM
Quote from: DVP;255479
He does admit fault. Ill give him that. You know you are driving a car that is not that safe with the rear end all screwed (which might just be an axle but I can tell anything from body shots) and you KNEW the ground was wet and you KNEW how fast you where going. If they are anything like Missouri you will lose your license until you are 21 with the accident and the ticket if you dont get it fixed.
I am not trying to sound like an ass (I probably am though) but seriously man you just screwed yourself. If they are going to try and take your license i suggest this. You ell EVERYTHING you have EVERYTHING. Part the car or whatever and get the money for a lawyer. This something that no one wants to do but weigh it out really quick.
Sell everything and replace tangible items as time goes on.
or
Lose your license, pride, hurt you chances at getting jobs, have the stain on your record for years, have even more OUTRAGEOUS insurance IF anyone will even carry you after losing your license.
If I sound like and a**hole fine but take what I said into consideration. Dont waste time you dont have thinking about what to do. State doesnt give a about you or your situation and will show no pity when court comes around .
Im taking it to a shop getting a write up on the damages so that I have it to bring to court, then im gonna fix it, since i have everything to replace pretty much right now. Just need shocks. The drivers shock is almost resting on the back of the shock tower, pass shock is almost resting on the front of the shock tower. Does that give you any indication to its not just cosmetic
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on February 06, 2009, 12:35:03 PM
I am going to court for the other one im in rydd for on the 19th. im my essay to the judge im gonna talk about what I learned never really sunk in till I got this last ticket. Its only a hearing, theres no fine for it. Im gonna talk about getting my job, working alot, saving money, paying my bills, fixing the damage myself. Im serious about turning shiznit around
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: DVP on February 06, 2009, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: daboss351;255547
I am going to court for the other one im in rydd for on the 19th. im my essay to the judge im gonna talk about what I learned never really sunk in till I got this last ticket. Its only a hearing, theres no fine for it. Im gonna talk about getting my job, working alot, saving money, paying my bills, fixing the damage myself. Im serious about turning shiznit around
All sounds good in theory but this is what worries me
Quote from: daboss351;255054
Got ANOTHER ticket, for care starting from stop...
Might lose my license now for a little bit..
The fact that you have multiple offenses now, your age, and (at least this one is a careless I can remember what the other was) it was a careless act I dont see the judge being very forgiving. Im sure some people can chime in on there experiences in court. I have only had 3 tickets, 2 court dates, and I had them dealt with before to avoid points. Honestly if you know this will work, fine. Dont take the chance. It will be worth the sacrifices now though life.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Clayton on February 07, 2009, 10:23:34 AM
Quote from: daboss351;255540
(doesnt help the tires are HORRIBLY hard and dryrotted.
dont blame stupidity on dry rotted tires guy. I drove my bird when I first started driving on the origional michelin gatorbacks.
dry rot doesnt have anything to do with slipping or sliding.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on February 09, 2009, 12:16:44 PM
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;255738
dont blame stupidity on dry rotted tires guy. I drove my bird when I first started driving on the origional michelin gatorbacks.
dry rot doesnt have anything to do with slipping or sliding.
You are correct, but the fact that they are dry and hard does, along with the angle of the rear end...
And yea they might not let me go but who knows. Bringing the car to a body shop, having it checked completely front to back, and a paper made by the shop saying the mechanical defects. Then im gonna get all the parts, box the rear arms, reinforce the tourque boxes, put in the poly bushings, install the arms, and the rear from the blue car. I bought my tires last night so i got that covered. We will see, im being positive and hoping since this one was out of carelessness/mehcanical defect and not screwing around im gonna pray. My grades are going up, I have a job that I have been working my ass off at, so im hoping if i bring in documentation of all that i might be ok.
But anyway!! My tires are SWEET. BFG Comp T/A's 245/45 zr16's I got them all for 250, they have LESS then 500 miles on them, they are just about perfect. one had a nail, it was pulled out, and patched from the inside at a ford dealer Im excited to get those bitchs on the car after the rear end is settled.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: DVP on February 09, 2009, 12:47:34 PM
Quote from: daboss351;256058
You are correct, but the fact that they are dry and hard does, along with the angle of the rear end...
And yea they might not let me go but who knows. Bringing the car to a body shop, having it checked completely front to back, and a paper made by the shop saying the mechanical defects. Then im gonna get all the parts, box the rear arms, reinforce the tourque boxes, put in the poly bushings, install the arms, and the rear from the blue car. I bought my tires last night so i got that covered. We will see, im being positive and hoping since this one was out of carelessness/mehcanical defect and not screwing around im gonna pray. My grades are going up, I have a job that I have been working my ass off at, so im hoping if i bring in documentation of all that i might be ok.
But anyway!! My tires are SWEET. BFG Comp T/A's 245/45 zr16's I got them all for 250, they have LESS then 500 miles on them, they are just about perfect. one had a nail, it was pulled out, and patched from the inside at a ford dealer Im excited to get those bitchs on the car after the rear end is settled.
Sounds like you are turning things around and I commend you for that. Its hard to try and turn a lot around in little time but I can see that there is effort. All you need is to keep the determination. That alone is what is getting me though this semester. I failed everyone around me last semester, that is bothers me more than failing myself.
If I was you I would try and do as much footwork to make sure that when you go in to court that you will be prepared to the fullest extent. ANYTHING you can do to get information about anything to do with your court systems there, real life info though not book info (although still helpful it can cause you to sound like you know everything). Ask anyone and everyone about any dealing they had with your court system. You might also want some character witnesses such as a respected teacher (secondary education level teacher) that you have had, employer, neighbor, someone not related that would be respected by the judge. Although he might not ask them to comment it looks better if you have some support. Appearance is the first impression. Neatly pressed dress clothes, clean and in good repair dress shoes, and a tie.
I know I sound like a brother or dad or something but I dont think that just because there was a little mistake made I shouldnt try and share any help I can think of. Not trying to tell you what to do but just give you some pointer on what might help you.
I really dont know if the fact that your car had a defect is going to help though. Where were you headed and coming from? Do you have any way of proving this? If it was not school or work or an emergency then I dont see that one holding up. Only because you were consciously driving an unsafe car on a PUBLIC road. They might use that to show you where endangering other citizens because of that.
On the other hand I know a guy that has gotten 3 tickets in STL City for defective ler (had a fart can on his Saturn LOL). He would go into court with his Mom and the judge would ask did you fix it? He would tell him it was never broke and that was the end of it. So you might be able to get away with showing that you are in the process of getting it fixed but due to your situation it is taking some time. They might also respect the fact that you are funding all of this on your own and your parents are not paying for your insurance, cars, or repairs.
I wish you good luck and hope that everything pans out alright. I still think that is was a careless act but you admitted it was a mistake and that is all you can do so there is no need for me to rag on you about it. Good luck.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Haystack on February 09, 2009, 11:52:16 PM
You'll smarten up in a few years. We all do.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on February 11, 2009, 10:44:24 AM
I already have. Im done with this stuff. I dont wanna lose my car, or license. Im fixing the car. Slowing down, doing what I can to make it so im less likely to screw around (I.E putting tires I PAID FOR on the car, dont wanna buy more so they gotta last.). Ive been working mad amounts, and im hoping that that will help me, as well as trying better in school. Ive always just not cared about what people said, or thought, but now they all think im not smart, or capible. And I know I am, so im gonna prove it.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: Kitz Kat on February 11, 2009, 03:32:04 PM
Quote from: Haystack;256184
You'll smarten up in a few years. We all do.
Maybe? I wonder about myself sometimes. But I'm old so I don't care!
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on March 06, 2009, 11:25:03 AM
Lucked out big time The court for some reason thought it was my frist time and gave me 15 hours community service so, everythings good there
Done some more little stuff to the car, but looking at a 92 bill blass for 600 that has one little rust spot and a SPOTLESS interior only thing is the abs master shiznit the bed
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: 32VFoxBird on March 06, 2009, 11:55:09 AM
and why are you buying another car?
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: 86XR7project on March 06, 2009, 12:16:59 PM
I was under the impression the Bill Blass didn't have the 5.0 HO just an SO. Whats wrong with the car you have?
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daboss351 on March 06, 2009, 12:32:09 PM
bill blass has 5.0 HO my car needs both rear quarters, its got a giant dent in the panel after the door which is gonna be major money to fix, needs a passenger door, powerlocks dont work, interior is a mess, and has a bird drivers seat, front k member air bag perches are rotted out, rear end is bent and whineing, theres a possiblity my drivers lower torque box is bent. This car has one little rust spot, interior is PERFECT, paint looks amazing, has had all matenince done. I mean look at mine: (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1212081540.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1212081540a.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/1112081600.jpg) and the 600 BB (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/mark72.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/mark7.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/mark73.jpg) (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/boss3512/mark74.jpg)
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: 86XR7project on March 06, 2009, 02:05:38 PM
Yeah I'd buy the Bill Blass too. Wish I could find a nice Mark VII, I always wanted one.
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: DVP on March 06, 2009, 02:24:40 PM
So when are you going to give me a rear? LOL
If you can swing it get the new one. Why is he selling it so cheap though? Seems like there would have to be more wrong to sell that cheap if it is as nice as it looks.
So did you get rid of the first one yet or is this going to be 3?
Title: Masons stinkin lincoln number 2!
Post by: daminc on March 06, 2009, 05:54:35 PM
nice car, I'm looking for some seats just like that.