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Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: BCA on October 08, 2008, 02:07:41 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/01/pariss-preview-four-door-lamborghini-estoque-unofficially-reveal/

Without revealing to him what brand it was, I showed these pictures to my Dad just to see what he thought about it. He is not a car guy and is very practical about his transportation purchases and I pretty much got the answer that I had expected..."I wouldn't buy one, it's too sporty looking".

How can a car be too sporty looking :confused:
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: EricCoolCats on October 08, 2008, 02:46:12 PM
Other than the front bumper being incongruous with the rest of the car, I think it's a pretty nice start to a fairly well-designed car. Isn't quite finished yet though.

Just for an opposing POV:
http://www.autoextremist.com/on-the-table1/

Quote from: AutoExtremist
(Three down arrows) Lamborghini. Right about now we're quite sure you're reading a report from the Paris Auto Show on some fan-boy auto website that positively gushes about how sensational the four-door Lamborghini Estoque is. Don't be fooled. The Estoque is this year's hands-down winner of AE's Answer to the Question that Absolutely No One Was Asking. The thing is an absolute abomination from every angle. Just remember one thing, while you're trying to rationalize that "for a four-door Lamborghini, the Estoque doesn't look half-bad," repeat the words four-door Lamborghini to yourself, and hopefully, you'll come to your senses. If that doesn't work, pay the high school kid next door $50 bucks to hit you across the forehead with a 2x4, because your sorry ass deserves it.
:rollin:
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: Beau on October 08, 2008, 03:34:21 PM
The front-end reeks of late-90's Saturn-esque bull ...while the rest of the car (can we call it a car, or a turd?) screams out in ized Camaro concept-meets-Dodge Charger wedlock....


Personally...whoever designed that car needs beaten by 2x4's from the whole  block, not just one neighbor...

FFS, it's hideous...i'd rather have my eyes gouged out by a rusty spoon!:mad:

EDIT: if Ford's design team came out with some shiznit like that...well....i'd probably junk my Tbird, delete my user account here, and start modding my Caprice Classic...
who in the hell in their right mind thinks that is "good looking"?
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: ~AC on October 08, 2008, 04:03:12 PM
well it is a Lamborghini saloon.  as in its 4 door car to rival a bmw type car.  its also never going to see production. i dont get why your all shooting it down.  yes youre all right about how ridiculous it looks, but i guess this means they're trying to get rid of scissor door 2 seaters to bring in more people who might be interested?  ford is looking for something more practical these days anyway.  dodge is the only one on my radar with a "hybrid" "sportscar" (and 2 cars to accompany the line) that from what i vaguely remember looked like a lotus elise. 

heck. here.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/23/breaking-chryslers-new-evs-previewed/
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on October 08, 2008, 04:08:17 PM
That dodge looks like they took the new Dodge Demon concept they had a while back, they probably took that concept and turned it EV.
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: ZondaC12 on October 08, 2008, 05:08:15 PM
OOH man I like that dodge thing. Just gimme it with a the 360 instead of electric (eew) :flip:
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 08, 2008, 05:53:15 PM
Somehow I have the feeling that those wonks at AutoExtremist would be eating their words about the possibility of a 4-door Lambo if Lambo were to actually build one. Remember, nobody thought a Porsche SUV would fly, either (and there are those of us who still believe it shouldn't exist, but you can't argue with sales success). In fact I'd bet AE writers condemned Porsche in much the same way that they're condemning Lamborghini now, if not worse.

Speaking of Porsche, they're developing a 4-door themselves that WILL make production (Panamerica). If you think Reventon-esque styling looks bad on a 4-door, you should see how badly 911-esque styling translates to one. And while also comparing Lamborghini to Porsche, I should point out that Lamborghini is guilty of both a 4-door AND an SUV, only a few years ago (in fact they killed it just when the SUV craze was taking off). Google LM002 or "Rambo Lambo" and prepare to barf. It looked like a cross between an old International Scout and a Hummer H1.

As for the 4-door Lambo that is the topic of this thread, I really, really like it. Not that my opinion matters (I could sell my house for cash and still not be able to buy one) but it is a nice looking car. It's certainly over the top, as can be expected for a show car, but the essentials are there, and they look good.

To answer BCA's question: Ford can't design a car that looks that good because nobody would pay $150k+ for a four-door Ford :hick: and if they DID design a car that looked that good the entire population of Earth would accuse them of being out of touch with today's buyers, who want Fiestas. But I'll tell you, aside from the very Lamborghini-esque front end, I could see that same car on a platform at the Dodge display saying it's a Charger concept (again, dragged up for show duty)...
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: ZondaC12 on October 08, 2008, 06:08:16 PM
I really like it to be honest, especially the back end. I gotta say...yeah 4-door lambo...kinda off the beaten path....but it's a beautiful 4-door. Why not. It would be just as striking, to me anyway, to see that rolling down the road as it would be to see a murcielago or gallardo etc.
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: EricCoolCats on October 08, 2008, 06:43:54 PM
Quote
Somehow I have the feeling that those wonks at AutoExtremist would be eating their words about the possibility of a 4-door Lambo if Lambo were to actually build one. Remember, nobody thought a Porsche SUV would fly, either (and there are those of us who still believe it shouldn't exist, but you can't argue with sales success). In fact I'd bet AE writers condemned Porsche in much the same way that they're condemning Lamborghini now, if not worse.

Oh, believe me, they lambaste Porsche every chance they get. Auto Extremist's Peter DeLorenzo (aka "Sweet Pete" LOL) can be a grumpy curmudgeon sometimes. I just get a kick out of him going on a rant. If any other nameplate was on this car, he'd be all over it like it was the Second Coming.

So this is what I meant about it being a good start...
(http://www.coolcats.net/ximages/estoque_fixed1.jpg)
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: Carpimp1987 on October 08, 2008, 11:54:33 PM
Okay CPA Try to Dodge a FORD ESCAPE in a 87 T-bird this world does not need nice newer cars as much as it needs better drivers.
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: Carl on October 09, 2008, 01:10:23 AM
looks like a Vett a Challenger and a turd
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: Carpimp1987 on October 09, 2008, 01:33:39 AM
The best part of it is the RIMS which i sure you could find some better Aftermarket rims for it anyway with some work an some Ca$h.

Ford did make nice cars just need a chevy BB and a Procharger F3 and 2 run 8s.
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: jcassity on October 09, 2008, 03:11:19 AM
desperate markets trying to reach shallow pockets.
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: Lion-O on October 11, 2008, 07:23:08 PM
This is suppose to be the mercury capri in 2010. This car plus the ford flex and the 300hp focus are coming. What are you talking about when you say ford can't make good looking cars. :beatyoass:


http://www.themustangnews.com/fomoco_08/st-0708mercury145.htm

http://www.themustangnews.com/carnews_08/0908-2009-Ford-Focus-RS-188.htm
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 11, 2008, 08:44:10 PM
Quote from: Carpimp1987;238885
The best part of it is the RIMS which i sure you could find some better Aftermarket rims for it anyway with some work an some Ca$h.

Ford did make nice cars just need a chevy BB and a Procharger F3 and 2 run 8s.


Isn't that Plimpton's car, that won the pump gas drags? If so I don't remeber it having a Chevy engine in it...
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: cougarman on October 11, 2008, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: Thunder Chicken;239142
Isn't that Plimpton's car, that won the pump gas drags? If so I don't remeber it having a Chevy engine in it...


It has a 572 cu in Big Block FORD. :burnout:
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: Ether947 on October 12, 2008, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: Lion-O;239139
This is suppose to be the mercury capri in 2010. This car plus the ford flex and the 300hp focus are coming. What are you talking about when you say ford can't make good looking cars. :beatyoass:


http://www.themustangnews.com/fomoco_08/st-0708mercury145.htm

http://www.themustangnews.com/carnews_08/0908-2009-Ford-Focus-RS-188.htm

That Capri looks pretty sweet from what I can see. :D
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: 20th anny 5.o on October 13, 2008, 07:06:18 PM
I have now seen front end pics of this car and wow it looks shagy sign me up for one. Hell sign me up for a focus RS as well they are both shagy cars (especially in electric green).
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: oldraven on October 15, 2008, 06:32:17 AM
Quote from: ~AC;238832
well it is a Lamborghini saloon.  as in its 4 door car to rival a bmw type car.  its also never going to see production. i dont get why your all shooting it down.  yes youre all right about how ridiculous it looks, but i guess this means they're trying to get rid of scissor door 2 seaters to bring in more people who might be interested?  ford is looking for something more practical these days anyway.  dodge is the only one on my radar with a "hybrid" "sportscar" (and 2 cars to accompany the line) that from what i vaguely remember looked like a lotus elise. 

heck. here.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/23/breaking-chryslers-new-evs-previewed/

It's not that it looks like an Elise, it IS a Lotus Europa. And it's an EV, not a Hybrid.

It's also pure vaporware to convince people that Chrycerberus actually has a plan for the future. They've spent every day since the purchase whittling down the existing stock and coming up with nothing new for the pipeline. Then when Auto Media gets on their case for being boring and not sharing any development news with the world Chrysler comes out with three slapped together 'green' vehicles for the Paris Auto Show (could you ever see a Parisian driving a Dodge?).

The whole thing reminds me of Stephen Harper's election campaign. "Oh yeah! I'm supposed to have a platform! Someone come up with something, quick."
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: motormenace on October 17, 2008, 09:18:15 PM
To sporty!!! Needs more conservative lines!
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i183/jonalansmith/Minivan.jpg)
 LOL!!!!!!
Title: Why can’t Ford design a car that looks this good?
Post by: motormenace on October 17, 2008, 09:21:04 PM
Quote from: Carpimp1987;238885
The best part of it is the RIMS which i sure you could find some better Aftermarket rims for it anyway with some work an some Ca$h.

Ford did make nice cars just need a chevy BB and a Procharger F3 and 2 run 8s.


No, you can do the same with a Ford 460/514.....but, turbos on it are more fun!