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General => Lounge => Topic started by: Clayton on October 02, 2008, 11:21:58 PM

Title: look at our fancy new boat anchor
Post by: Clayton on October 02, 2008, 11:21:58 PM
me and thunderbus got our paws on this today, the guy wanted s price for it...

its a '62 we believe 409. the numbers match a 409


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Tcj429/Picture011-3.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Tcj429/Picture012-3.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Tcj429/Picture013-2.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Tcj429/Picture014-2.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Tcj429/Picture015-1.jpg)


ive got another one commin tomorow... but its a ford :D


btw, we paid $20 for the 409, and it still rolls over...
Title: look at our fancy new boat anchor
Post by: HAVI on October 03, 2008, 12:05:19 AM
$20.00 is a good investment.  Some Impala guy will pay big money for it I'm sure.
Title: look at our fancy new boat anchor
Post by: FLSTCI71 on October 03, 2008, 12:10:11 AM
That's a steal. Quick, sell it to a Chevy guy for a profit and buy a good motor to replace it. Oh wait, you already said you were getting a Ford tomorrow....
Title: look at our fancy new boat anchor
Post by: Kitz Kat on October 03, 2008, 03:35:58 AM
The 409's are worth some money in the right crowd.
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Post by: V8Demon on October 03, 2008, 07:44:17 AM
That is indeed a 409.  My dad had one.

Throw it in a Nova Wagon :burnout:

Does it turn over?
Title: look at our fancy new boat anchor
Post by: ZondaC12 on October 03, 2008, 09:17:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u9pzj05JaQ
Title: look at our fancy new boat anchor
Post by: Clayton on October 04, 2008, 01:00:35 PM
shes as free as can be... we rolled her over the minute we got her home...

were thinkin of cleaning her up then gettin her to start on the stand.


if she starts were gonna be some happy fellas.


the motor i was sopposed to get tomorow that has been rescheduled for either tuesday or thursday would be a F700 motor. The great stump pullin 391. and im on the hunt for a busted down F250 to shoehorn it into. :D
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Post by: daboss351 on October 04, 2008, 01:02:44 PM
hell yea!!
that 409 would be NASTY attached to the turbo 400 i have with a 3k stall, and race shift kit in it.....
Title: look at our fancy new boat anchor
Post by: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87 on October 04, 2008, 08:24:48 PM
That is a truck 348/409 Note the water pump and oil fill
Not a goldmine but still desirable
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Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 04, 2008, 09:25:41 PM
There's an article on building up a 348/409 in last month's Hot Rod. I don't usually read Chevy engine stuff, but I did read that just because I've always loved the W engines. Nothing against Chevy, it's just that there's only so much you can do with a 350 or 454 before all the stories are the same (I don't read MM&FF magazine anymore for the same reason).

According to that article the truck engines actually have a slightly different casting. The combustion chambers are machined into the block on W's, not the pistons or head. The deck is actually not on the same plane as the top of the piston (when at TDC there will be a wedge shaped opening, the pistons will not sit flush with the deck like they do on a Windsor). The truck engines have a much larger combustion chamber that is actually machined into the top of the bore, and because it's machined into the bore it's not easy to make it smaller - you need pistons with a huge dome on them. The huge domes make the pistons really heavy, which is very hard on the rods. The engine HR magazine built was actually based on a truck engine but had custom pistons and rods (not to mention aluminum heads and a bunch of other goodies). The end result was really nice though...
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Post by: V8Demon on October 04, 2008, 09:39:14 PM
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That is a truck 348/409 Note the water pump and oil fill


I figured that was just a model year variation....Most of the 409's I see are in cars that didn't come with them via the factory.

Here's how to figure out which exact one you have:  http://www.348-409.com/suffix.html

Reference pics:  http://www.348-409.com/ref.html
Title: look at our fancy new boat anchor
Post by: Clayton on October 04, 2008, 10:45:31 PM
and our block number is matched according to the 348/409 site that it is a TRUE 409 the casting number on the block is 3857656

http://www.348-409.com/cgi-bin/block/csvsearch.pl?block=3857656
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Post by: BEARMAX on October 05, 2008, 12:18:26 PM
wow shes a real fine 409....
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Post by: TurboCoupe50 on October 05, 2008, 01:19:45 PM
Quote from: 87thunderbirdBlackJack;238434
and our block number is matched according to the 348/409 site that it is a TRUE 409 the casting number on the block is 3857656

http://www.348-409.com/cgi-bin/block/csvsearch.pl?block=3857656


But here's the clinker(from your link)...

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Truck blocks would have reliefs cut into the cylinder walls to lower compression
Title: look at our fancy new boat anchor
Post by: thunderjet302 on October 06, 2008, 03:21:53 PM
Who the hell had a 409 just sitting around? :hick:
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Post by: V8Demon on October 06, 2008, 03:53:44 PM
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Truck blocks would have reliefs cut into the cylinder walls to lower compression


Would call for a dome piston with the truck heads or something funky with the regulars....
Title: look at our fancy new boat anchor
Post by: 46Tbird on October 06, 2008, 05:53:06 PM
Truck 409s aren't real desirable, the blocks have a relief cut into them to lower compression.  Also the front dress and oil pan has to come from a car to fit in most chassis.  They have a different deck height which makes them unique. 

It's kind of like the old Dodge and DeSoto Hemi engines.  Yep they look good, but they're oddball enough that finding parts is nearly impossible. 

They go for about $500 or less usually, but the fact yours turns over (and has a fresh oil leak :D ) means that it may go for a little more.  Good score!