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Buy a $200 Mark with a good VIN and get a bill of sale, then register that one. Slap the VIN on your "good" Mark and you're good to go. You could even part out the $200 Mark and make more than your money back :hick:

PS: I'm (mostly) kidding...

Do a title search.It might be cheaper to pay the back taxes that are owed on the car than to buy another car and go through the whole process again.Gather your thoughts,and don't give up.There's always a way to make it happen.

Wanna do a paper transaction and let me register it in NH, then "sell" it back to you? I feel bad - I can't believe they're being so thick-headed about this. I'm thinking "man, give the kid a break!"

Wanna do a paper transaction and let me register it in NH, then "sell" it back to you? I feel bad - I can't believe they're being so thick-headed about this. I'm thinking "man, give the kid a break!"

whats that?
side step laws if i can and have to

whats that?
Got a buddy that is willing to give me the title to his old mark he crushed and a bill of sale if he can find it
side step laws if i can and have to

whats that?
Got a buddy that is willing to give me the title to his old mark he crushed and a bill of sale if he can find it
side step laws if i can and have to

ive been trying to do just that

Buy a $200 Mark with a good VIN and get a bill of sale, then register that one. Slap the VIN on your "good" Mark and you're good to go. You could even part out the $200 Mark and make more than your money back :hick:

PS: I'm (mostly) kidding...

I did that with my 85 Cougar, 8 years ago, with my Dad`s crushed 84 Cougar. Never got a police report from the accident so that was no problem here. I pay registration  every year and even got a new set of plates. Been pulled over 2 times, no problem. It`s a felony here, too, but never had a single problem. I guess this is because it was a old non-appealing car. US laws would be more strict in this matter, i think.

 Don`t give up.

hummmm explain, im up to try anything

Two Words

Mechanics Lein.

You DO realize he was joking and that it is a [COLOR="Red"]felony[/COLOR] to do that, right?


Lookup VIN tampering.

make sure he has a title for it! LOL!

o its a felony.....
Well I was gonna have the vin match the insurance, plates, and title. Say that the car was bought with no interior just the title, and that I had to attach a vin to the dash so it would ahve the right one.....

I DONT need a title for his car

So that would be what?!

VIN tampering, intent to defraud, and possible civil lawsuits if an incident occured causing personal injury/death.

Do you understand how dire the consequences could be for some metal, plastic, rubber and electrical wire when it all boils down to it?

If I ever find out you do actually decide to go through with that I will have no choice but to do the right thing and report you myself....

FFS; some people should really think about what they type out on a keyboard and how it could possibly come back to bite them in the ass at a later date and time.  Normally, I'd leave something like this well enough alone, but with a scenario as serious as this I have to chime in. 

I am in no way threatening you.  I harbor no ill-will against you.  I understand you were most likely unknowing about the consequences of such a possible action.  At the same time you must realize that I have an obligation to fulfill and I will fulfill it. 

I will say (type) anymore concerning this particular matter as I have spoken my mind on it and you seem reasonably intelligent enough to make the correct decision.

I truly do hope that you get this worked out in a legal manner.

Any effing car you buy from now on should have a title...just think of it as covering your ass...it's a LOT easier this way. Also make sure you have the bill of sale as well.

EDIT it IS against the law to buy/sell a vehicle without a title AND b.o.s.  near everywhere.....yeah, it's a hassle, and a few bucks...but if you plan on putting a car on the road, it's a must-have. We're only harping on you because you've spent a lotta time and probably quite a few bucks on this car to see you piss it away by a bad judgement call with a title..If we didn't care, we wouldn't be trying to help ya out here. Good luck man!

what is a mechanics lien? RI said they have nothing I can do, and i ahve never heard of that, can someone explain? I still want to get the car legal to give to my dad.
Bear if that doesnt work Ill talk to you.

actually over 10 years old u dont need a title as long as you have registered the car cause that proves u own it

here insurance is a $400 fine first offense, $800 second and $1200 third. 3rd time is 180 days jail time, and and automatice suspended license everytime you get the ticket.

No plate is $40 and as long as you have insurance, they can't tow the car. It also dosen't go up. I drove on a temp tag with my motor cycle for two years. Got pulled over twice, and only got a ticket once. I got a warning for going 75 in a 60.

Id wave em in the bird and "see" what happends.

actually over 10 years old u dont need a title as long as you have registered the car cause that proves u own it

Look - all this talk about titles is nice, but it ignores one thing - LAWS VARY FROM STATE TO STATE!!!

This is why I suggested registering it in NH, then transferring it back because you DON'T NEED A TITLE in NH if the CAR IS OVER 10 YEARS OLD. In NH, it's understood that possession is 9/10 of ownership. IF you have a bill of sale, and that car isn't required to have a title, then you can register the car. Period. You may have to have a state trooper inspect the car to verify that it is roadworthy & you may not be able to get it inspected, but they'll take your money and give you a plate. And insurance is not required to register a car here, but many towns have ordinances against keeping non-registered junk in your yard, so you'll often see plates on old rusting parts car junk boxes.

Strip it down to nothing and build another one.

So I can grab this old 67 mustang down the road from me with that HUGE gas guzzling 427 in it, get it to NH and get an apartment there I could transfer the car into my name and it would be mine. That TOTALLY Rocks!! Then I drive it back here to Washington and got a a Mustang fastback...WAY cool!

I only need a registration here in Washington to renew the tags ("get plates") for a car also.. But I need a title to make it MINE. It is also required by law to transfer the title over to the OWNER in like 30 or 60 days or so.

Each applicant shall furnish the following on form TDMV 23:

(1)  Owner's name, mailing address and date of birth;

(2)  Owner's legal address, if different from mailing address;

(3)  Date of purchase;

(4)  Current odometer mileage reading;

(5)  Vehicle identification number;

(6)  Lienholder's name and address, if applicable;

(7)  Date of lien, if applicable;

(8)  Indication whether the vehicle is powered by:

a.  Gas;
b.  Diesel;
c.  Electric; or
d.  Propane;

(9)  Vehicle's year, make, model, color and body style;

(10)  Gross vehicle weight, if known;

(11)  Number of cylinders and axles;

(12)  Previous title number of the vehicle and state of issuance, if applicable;[/b]

(13)  Dealer number, if applicable;

(14)  Seller's name and address;

(15)  Owner's signature and date signed;

(16)  Dealer's signature, if applicable;

(17)  Authorized agent's signature, if owner is a corporation, partnership or association; and

(18)  Signature of notary public or justice of the peace.

Verification of Vehicle Identification Number, Form TDMV 19A.

          (a)  A verification of vehicle identification number, form TDMV 19A, shall be completed when there is no previous New Hampshire or out-of-state title furnished to the bureau.

          (b)  Form TDMV 19A shall be completed by a licensed New Hampshire dealer, other than a bonded dealer, an authorized New Hampshire inspection station or any New Hampshire law enforcement officer, after a physical examination of the vehicle.

          (c)  A person described in (b) above shall furnish the following on form TDMV 19A:

(1)  Owner's name and address;

(2)  Vehicle's year, make, model and body style;

(3)  Owner's registration number, if applicable;

(4)  Vehicle identification number;

(5)  Indication, if applicable, whether the vehicle identification number appears to be:

a.  Altered;
b.  Changed; or
c.  Missing;

(6)  Town or city where the vehicle was physically examined;

(7)  Certification by the person authorized to perform the inspection and date signed;

and

(8)  Name and address of agency or company of person authorized to perform the inspection.

if your gonna start over, find one with less bodywork.

CERTIFICATES OF TITLE AND REGISTRATION OF VEHICLES
Certificate of Title
Section 261:3
    261:3 Exempted Vehicles. –
    I. No certificate of title need be obtained for:
      (a) A vehicle owned by the United States or owned or operated by the New Hampshire National Guard;
      (b) A vehicle owned by a manufacturer or dealer and held for sale, even though incidentally moved on the highway or used for purposes of testing or demonstration; or a vehicle used by a manufacturer solely for testing;
      (c) A vehicle owned by a nonresident of this state and not required by law to be registered in this state;
      (d) A vehicle regularly engaged in the interstate transportation of persons or property for which a currently effective certificate of title has been issued in another state;
      (e) A vehicle moved solely by animal power;
      (f) An implement of husbandry;
      (g) Special mobile equipment;
      (h) A self-propelled wheelchair or invalid tricycle;
      (i) A snowmobile as defined in RSA 259:102;
      (j) Trailers with gross weight of less than 3,001 pounds;
      (k) Any motor vehicle whose manufacturer's model year is older than 15 years, except heavy trucks and truck-tractors whose gross vehicle weight exceeds 18,000 pounds.

261:2-a Registration of Certain Title Exempted Vehicles. –[/B]  Notwithstanding the provisions of RSA 261:2 and RSA 261:148, no person shall register a motor vehicle exempted under RSA 261:3, I(k) in this state without first providing a previously issued, current or expired New Hampshire certificate of registration, a valid New Hampshire or out-of-state certificate of title, or a current New Hampshire vehicle identification number verification form as prescribed by the director. For the purposes of this section, a temporary registration issued pursuant to RSA 261:57 does not meet the requirement of a previously issued New Hampshire certificate of registration. The town or city clerk that issues the permit may copy the bill of sale and the New Hampshire certificate of registration or the certificate of title for their records, but shall return the original bill of sale and the New Hampshire certificate of registration or the certificate of title to the person registering the vehicle upon issuing the permit. Any person who violates the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

"or a current New Hampshire vehicle identification number verification form as prescribed by the director."

Actually, it's only shady if you don't actually own the vehicle. If it's your vehicle, technically you can sell and buy it back at your discretion, but no matter - I was just finishing my conversation with Jim actually - sounds like you're all set.

I have an 87 turbo coupe im looking to sell. Paint looks good, runs strong, auto just rebuilt, pm me if interested.

Yea I know my moms like why does he wanna help you, and how do you know hes not gonna come and try and take the car or something. Shes paranoid im gonna get screwed again thats all
If i was 18 and hadnt found this deal I would have jumped on the chance
this is just all around better deal for me, other then its ugly maroon on maroon

Yeah, I don't blame her for not trusting a stranger :hick: . I just remember when I was your age and had squat for money living in inner city (Boston) - I know what it's like needing someone to vouch for you or just give you a break. It would actually be a bit of a hastle for me - I surely don't want another car as I've got the Cougar and T-Bucket (and daily driver) that soak up all my time and money already!