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Technical => Electrical Tech => Topic started by: LumpyCheeseman on September 22, 2008, 01:50:20 AM

Title: instrument cluster question
Post by: LumpyCheeseman on September 22, 2008, 01:50:20 AM
ok, so i've looked at all 49 pages, at every post that looked halfway relavant, so now i shall ask:

does anyone know or have the pinouts for 1983 instrument clusters.
i have the buttstuffog in mine now, and a buddy of mine just dropped off a digital one for me.  i desire to use the digital, and i understand that the speedo will work if i just plug it in, but the fuel will not.  i understand that it is wired just a little differently, and that i could possibly just re-pin my connector.

anyone?
Title: instrument cluster question
Post by: LumpyCheeseman on September 22, 2008, 04:19:12 PM
ok, friend of mine just told me it is a completely different sender for buttstuffog and digital dashes.  that i wont need to repin, just change the sender.  can anyone confirm?
Title: instrument cluster question
Post by: LumpyCheeseman on September 22, 2008, 09:52:54 PM
ok, maybe noone is responding since i didnt list the car, the one in my sig, the 83 tbird...with the 5.0....
Title: instrument cluster question
Post by: MasterBlaster on September 23, 2008, 03:21:51 AM
We're not ignoring you (probably), it may just be that nobody has the pinouts for your clusters. I know I don't. All I do have is snippets I've saved from various posts here, there and everywhere...

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digital
 15 Ohms empty, 160 Ohms Full
base (buttstuffog)
 83 Ohms empty, 12 Ohms full
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87 Evtm page 127 or 129 shows
Empty - high resistance - 60 to 86 ohms
Full - low resistance - 8 to 12 ohms

87 shop manual 33-20-1 shows
Empty-low resistance-22.5ohms
Full-high resistance - 146 ohms
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Scott, Page 127 shows the buttstuffog fuel gage.
Page 144 shows the digital (electronic) fuel gage.

buttstuffog sender has low resistance when full.
Digital sender has high resistance when full.
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Fordification:

(Empty / Full)
  73  -  10  Ohms pre-1989 Fords
  16  -  158 Ohms most '89-up Fords
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Title: instrument cluster question
Post by: LumpyCheeseman on September 23, 2008, 04:35:33 AM
that right there was actually exactly what i was looking for lol.  will have to see if i can dig up the proper sender then. thanks.
Title: instrument cluster question
Post by: LumpyCheeseman on September 24, 2008, 12:19:07 AM
does anyone have the ratings for the 88 style?  i'm going to the junkyard in a few days to harvest a truckload of parts for some resto's we are doing here, and i figured i would look into all my options for my own parts as well.

i know the mk7 digital senders will work, as the ohm ratings are extremely close (i would see empty on the dash a touch sooner than normal, but i'm cool with that), but in the event i dont see a bill blass in the yard i DO know that there are multiple digital dash birds and cougars there
Title: instrument cluster question
Post by: LumpyCheeseman on September 26, 2008, 03:54:27 PM
anyone?  hitting the yard prolly tomorrow and i wanna get the sender i need since i'm gonna be under my car this weekend
Title: instrument cluster question
Post by: jcassity on September 27, 2008, 01:27:07 AM
humm
I knew i had been down this road once before.  Some very useful info .....enjoy

http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=17053

the evtm pages in there can be had on the sticky as well.