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I’m looking to chang the plugs and I saw on spike TV they did a nice thing about these E3 plugs they seem nice and the money isn’t too bad either. The question I have is whats you guys take on them, and how do you compare them to the Bosch platinum +2 & +4s. And just plain motor craft plugs indexed.
 The reason indexing is out for me is no matter how much I read about it I have no practical experience w/it so I just don’t trust it being done right.

I've always had good luck with the NGK V-Power plugs.  Other than that I only use AutoLite.

I always had luck w/ the motorcraft plugs it just now I’m looking to do a little hotRoding to it. Like I said on spike TV (power block) they stated on the dyno they found a few HP don’t remember exactly how muck much I think it was 7 and on a chevy so I figure they were worth looking into for stock replacement aftermarket part.

Bosh plugs have no business being in a domestic vehicle.:punchballs:  I have Autolites in my 88 and in my 89' Stang. In my GM's I run Delco plugs.

I run Motorcraft or Autolite in my V8 car

I run NGK in the Turbo 4

Don't believe what TV/mags say about "this little part added 7 hp".
1. They are being paid by the company to *test* the part so of course they get some gain and
2. Who can even feel a 5-7 peak hp improvement? Not me.

Just get some standard Motorcrafts or Autolites. They cost less, work better, and you won't miss the *7 hp* ;)

im running NGK plugs in my 5.0
not a single problem, and they have worked great since day one!

I just can't say it enough. NGK's or  Autolite's. Maybe some motorcrafts that are indexed if I was racing and then I'd opt out for the Autolight racing plugs. As for the Bosch +2's and + 4's JUNK! I have seen some improvement with the +4's in C.O.P. style ignigtion. Still for the cash get those NGK's or Autolights!

I have heard of Bosh plugs blowing threw the block in a domestic car, there plugs are made specifly for BMW's Mercades and other German vehicles.

*sigh*


No, they are just made in Germany...that doesn't mean that they are ONLY for German cars and do nasty things in domestic ones.

I guess I better run out and pull my puppiesanese plugs (NGKs) out of my German, Swedish and American cars as they must only be made for puppiesanese ones. 

If you want to try the E3 plugs, do it and decide for yourself.

As of right now, NGK's (V-Power) are my new first choice for plugs.  Everything I have put them in have started quicker, idled smoother and run better than the AutoLites ever did.

NGK are great for all cars. They are the best I have seen Plugs wise.

hows come i have not seen a difference?
I wont spend money on super duper plugs if they dont seem to be any better.  Maybe the capablity of "X" plug is very different from other plugs but if your coil is not capable of exploiting that advantage ,, why bother.

V-power plugs aren't "super duper" and don't cost all that much more than Autolites, etc.

I'm also not talking about feeling a difference after replacing 10-15K (or  older) plugs either.  The ones I just swapped out had maybe 2K on them each (The Bird and the Volvo).  They had Autolites in them as I needed them quick at the time.

Bosch plugs are . RUN away from anything with bosch on it when it comes to ignition parts for your domestic car.

NGK u have to replace every 20-25K miles.

That's true with most copper plugs.  Even more so in boosted applications.

This is why I ask,
Fist thing is most negative feeling towards bosch so there out.
Second most positive in the poll for the indexed plug w/is how I should have worded it not specifically motor craft. I’m considering auto light and NGK doing the same. Besides 2 people I know personally here locally are split between the 2.
Last said I did not rule out the E3s yet. the only problem w them is 2 thing right now 1 most inexperience w/them right now. And 2 when you order them, you can only order them for a car application and there’s no gaping so if you have a MSD box and are looking to go w/a larger gap, can’t do. And if you looking for a specific heat rating that could also be a problem.
 
If your interested in the E3 website here it is http://www.e3sparkplugs.com/

I ran Bosch plugs before I swapped my H/C/I.  Never had an isue with them.  After the last experience I had with Autolite's about 7 years ago, I will never put another set of them in any car I ever own.  I'm currently running Accels.  I swap plugs every 15K out of habit.  Perhaps some may see that as wasteful, but hey, it lets me sleep at night.

I ran Bosch plugs before I swapped my H/C/I.  Never had an issue with them.  After the last experience I had with Autolite's about 7 years ago, I will never put another set of them in any car I ever own.  I'm currently running Accel u-grooves.  I swap plugs every 15K out of habit.  Perhaps some may see that as wasteful, but hey, it lets me sleep at night.

I'm running AC Rapid Fires...

So Shoot me...

Still haven’t bought plugs yet but this is what I was talking about on SPIKE TV and HORSEPOWER TV enjoy and criticize http://www.e3sparkplugs.com/video.htm

I think that’s cool with the plugs side by side showing the spark. Unless E3 altered the test it does show a difference.

They probably have a internal gap the spark must jump... What this does is increase the voltage necessary to jump each gap and does result in a hotter spark(assuming the coil can deliver it)... Bet they'd run like  in a stock '60s points system...

Champion marketed the internal gap plugs 40 years ago... Type number was same but began with a "U"

I had excellent results with Autolite racing plugs...# AR133 (for HO)...just don't ever run'em below 65* ambient temp(for more than a few days)...will foul O2 sensors and carbon up your EGR nicely(ask me how I know!)...I felt a seat of the pants improvement in the summer months though, before I sent the O2's and EGR to hell.

NEVER BOSCH in a 5.0...I can't tell you why 5.0's and 5.8's don't like'em, but they just don't...lol.

Good luck,
Don

everybody has there opions heres mine i own all fords and only use bosch +4s i just gave my neice my 01 taurus i put 120,000 miles on the set never a problem i changed them out for her with new ones i got them in my truck, my wifes freestyle, and my 88 t-bird .i drive a lot of miles per year for work (construction) not to say others have had there problems with them i just havnt had any is all just try what u feel safe with and leave those rice burners in the dust.

I got some bosch plugs way back in the day, my first time working on my car. I wanted to try to get it to pass saftey and emissions. It got slightly better after the plugs, but didn't seem to have any real power. I also got really cheap wires after and lost even more power. That was in 02 and the old wires said motorcraft 1986 on it. I'm guessing origonals...

Ok guys I have a confession to make I double posted this question on corral but asked a little different so here it is http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1049319
Most guys there weren’t into it either to.
Below is more info I found on Google for the E3 sparkplugs
I also read a lot of other forums and got mixed reviews those of them who don’t have them think it’s a scam. And those who do have them like them- in 2 ways some say better millage, some say they didn’t see any millage difference but notice a possible performance difference. I did not ad any of those cause there to many and they are subjective I have no idea who they are.

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/10/21/dont-count-on-e3-spark-plugs-to-save-you-money-on-gas/

http://martincoadvertising.com/pr/2008/07/03/e3-spark-plugs-powersports-market/

http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/020503.html

At this point feel like and probably sound like a sales person for them please don’t confuse me. I’m just sharing my research. I still have not decided.

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